DrDiaboloco

It could be worse, he could be claiming that the Renesis gets tired and doesn't make power after 2-1/2 hours on the highway.

dbb

Why is this still being discussed?

The answer is : No

End of story. Move along.

Raptor2k

WAIT.

I like pie.

Okay, move along.

andone

yeah i got to say something to... hehe ...

first of: i dont know too much about engines, except of how they work and the basics...
then i also got to say that everybody saiying it doesnt hurt the rotary probably are right (as far as i know).
though - and here comes my opinion - it doesnt hurt the piston engine too hard (if it does at all) either... just think of germany (im living in switzerland right next to the border) there is so many people here that go around 100 and 130 mph on the autobahn.... in 6th gear in most cars this means probably around 4, 5 k rpm - or am i wrong? - and i have never ever heard anybody (cardealers, friends, family - anybody) who has been complaining about getting their piston engine hurt at those rpms... - maybe doing it for couple of hours straight it would, but normal use on the autobahn i highly doubt it. maybe we have different piston engines in europe than in usa though?!

andone

ou and yes - im in love with the rotary - so dont get me wrong !!!!

NoTears316

I still have the patent on that phrase. You owe me moneys for using it.

ken-x8

That's a very good historical factor. Going back to the days before Interstate highways in the US, European cars did perform better for long high speed runs. They had to, because of the better roads. The weak link on US cars was the cooling system. I've read that when the PA turnpike opened, it was pretty much littered with overheated cars.

I think these days engines are pretty much the same around the world, just slight differences for local emissions regs. And the manufacturers have learned to not be chintzy on cooling systems. That last lesson took a really long time to sink in in the US.

Ken

RotaryP7

That's my average speed. Better not damage the engine.

Cam

iTrader: (1)

Acutually 360 degrees is exactly 1/2 of a 4 stroke piston engines cycle. The crankshaft turns 720 degrees per cycle.

Smileynh

Why are they right drive cars? The test was in Germany. I guess the just used cars from Japan?

-- SNH

dbb

I have driven across the Hay plain in central western NSW several times in my old 2003 build rx8. This part of Australia is dead flat. No features at all. You can see a coke can on the side of the road 5 miles away, you can see oncoming cars at the Horizon. This goes on for about 200 miles.

So naturally, to stave off boredom and tiredness, I cruise along at about 120 mph for most of the way. The engine doesn't miss a beat, the car is nice and stable, there is no overheating - and this is during ~ 105 Fahrenheit ambient temperatures.

(of course I need to fill the car with petrol on both sides of the Hay plain ... )

CTrx8

iTrader: (2)

with a comment like "looks like premix is the right choice" in your original poll it sounds as if you either needed affirmation or didn't know whether or not you were making the right choice. for someone that seemed uncertain about it just seems silly to offer up such definitive advice in this thread as, "premix would help on wear and tear."

i don't premix but that isn't b/c i don't think you shouldn't or anyone else (that is for each individual to decide for themself). i just know that a lot of very knowledgeable people (of which i do not put you in that category) still debate its merits as well as potential damage to the engine.

maybe it was my mistake b/c i forgot you cannot stray from your tendancies toward one-liners and are unable to give reasons behind your statements. if you had, however, given a reason as to how it would help with wear and tear it would have been a stronger argument. and as i said before, i am not saying people should not premix but i wanted to make sure that the OP knew that your statement was not something that there is a clear consenus on.

of course if you think that 45% of those on these boards that voted in your poll saying they do premix constitutes a valid conclusion then by all means jump away, mr. lemming, jump away.

encorez

Just confirming the poll stats.

To hard for you to understand?

CTrx8

iTrader: (2)

with 45% of the voters saying they do, how is that confirming anything? even if it were 80%, though, you would only be showing what the majority of people are doing - not what is right or wrong. where have you proven anything and had any leg to stand on to ask me if it is too hard for me to understand?

i would love it if you were educated enough to put together more than two sentences to actually debate anything but i am not holding my breath on that one. premix, don't premix, i don't care and i don't have enough evidence one way or the other to say to or not to. i also haven't been shown enough to make me start.

New Yorker

That poll only means that 45% of the people who responded to the poll pre-mix. (And the poll is skewed to attract people who, at the very least, know what premixing is—which, I assure you, is a tiny percentage of all RX-8 owners.) If you could somehow poll all RX-8 owners I'd bet you'd find that if even 5% premix, it's a lot.

DaveCM203

I used to let him get under my skin. Now I don't ever read what he has to say. Because he only complains and bitches yet never realy explains anything. Most of the time his lame one liners do not even make any sence. He never has anything to add and never tries to come up with a solution. I think that he is an unhappy troll and needs attention. Lets not give it to him anymore.

juanjux

In spain 80-90 mph is the speed most people goes on highways (legal limit is 120 km/h->75 mph, speed cameras are set at 141 kms/h->87 mph).

I guess in the german autobahns is a little higher. My average is usually about 95-100 mph when there is little traffic, sometimes I've kept this speed continuosly for two hours. I've 28000 miles, until the moment 0 engine problems, I don't think this can be an issue with rotaries.

maisis00

As I understand it from the service guy at my local Mazda dealership the more consistently you run the engine at higher RMPs the better it is for the engine. He dumbed it down and gave me what is I am sure an oversimplified explanation for the 04-06 engine recall issue. Basically, he told me that the people who were driving the engines at very low RMP's such as 2.5k & 3k and shifting at those lower levels were causing issues with their engines. He described the Renesis as a racing engine which is meant to be driven hard. I said, I normally shift about 6k RMP's on average and then spot on at the red line if I am really trying to wind it out and show off a bit. He told me I should have no problems and the diag test confirmed it. He did however scold me slightly for having low oil that day. I generally try to check my oil about once every week or two but I guess I should make it a every week thing if I am going to run it harder than average.

rotarygod

Running a rotary at those speeds will not hurt it at all. RX-8s have won a couple of 24 hour endurance races in europe at high speeds and loads. This has been happening with rotaries for decades. As long as your engine stays cool and you aren't detonating (and you shouldn't be!), it's fine.

Most rotary owners do NOT premix. It's pretty limited to only the fanatics and even most of them don't premix. I don't. I have before but I don't usually.

thered1996

Every time I wind out the engine around these parts, some *** in a BMW or Mustang interprets this as an assault on his dignity. One of these days, I need to hear what this car sounds like from the *outside*.

Is there a Forum section for SFX?

Wilson

There is your answer. The man has spoken. Now go drive it like you stole it. Oh yeah. Smile and wave.

Huskyfan23

lol. I guess Rotarygod is a lot like Ike....both know a lot, but Rotarygod doesn't do it just to seemingly put the RX-8 down.

Good to know, everyone. Thanks for all the responses (and damn, did I get a lot of them!)

rotarygod

The next time you make a comparison about me like that I'll have to ban you! There's no need to be rude!

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

I think you should just ban him.
I don't think there is a greater offense possible.
I think I heard him whisper "Crossfire", too!

Raptor2k

bump?