Rotary Nut

Looks like a usless waste of rubber if you ask me.

Rotary Soul

drifting is sort of senseless.
but that's one of its charms, how senseless it is.
a lot of things people do are senseless, but drifting is fun and it's pretty damn cool too.
people who drift are... different... sorta like how stoners are different, but in a different way.

Wolverine

Speaking of drifting, I just got a copy of the new game Need For Speed Underground! Parts of the game has you drifting and it's a lot of fun!!!!:D

Nubo

When I was lucky enough to live where it snows I had all of this fun in a much safer way by going to a large lot at night and playing with the traction limits when there's a couple of inches of new snow on the ground. The tires would break at much lower inputs and speeds and with a minimum of wear and tear.

I don't know what "building for drifting" entails but it sounds like purposely compromising traction. To each his own but I hope not to encounter you operating outside the envelope as I come upon you in the mountains. Keep it safe, guys.

RX7FD3

Ive been trying to drift and i just cant do it.
i can do it easily when is wet but not on dry roads

Someone teach me hehe

I pretty much gain speed, as i make a turn, i move the steering wheel real fast to the same direction im turning, then i quickly turn the steering wheel in the opposite direction to maintain control...however i dont use breaks, i simply downshift in second or third gear depending on the speed to maintain a grip on the road.....but it just doesnt work unless is wet! Im i doing something wrong??

PUR NRG

Too funny. I've been in six autocross events with the RX-8 so far and I've gotten into drifts in at least half of them. Problem is I don't want to be drifting, yet it happens all over the place. Getting on the throttle, getting on the brake, even when shifting from first into second.

My impression is stock the RX-8 wants to drift far more than an S2000 or 540i. Since I'm used to driving the latter it makes the former a more "interesting" experience. I feel like I'm getting practical experience how to drift whether I want to or not.

thanksgiving

Guys, you think drifting is easy? Hahahah, Initial D... do you know who made the cartoon? Keichi Tsychuya, the drift king in Japan. And what .... you think drifting is stupid... I thikn those who said driftin is stupid are the ones that are stupid. You are driving Japanese cars, they designed their cars to suit their driving style. Come on, admit it... Americans can drive ****. All they can do it drive the car in a straight line... and yes they are good at it... but what do you think is more stupid. Being able to drift cars through corners with style and speed or just accelerating in a straight line?
Yes Inital D is a cartoon, and you might think that is total bullshit. But sorry its not, watch Rally drivers... do they alwasy drive with grip? NO.... if they did... the prolly have crashed 100 times. There is always a mix between drift and grip to drive fast. IN road racing you use it less becasue there is more space avaliable so you find your racing line and be able to use it.
Sometime I wish Japanese will still continue to import crappy cars into America, cause you guys just dun appreciate our cars. And this is just not my voice, many designers agree to this... and that's why no high performance cars entered United States...and even if they do... they are not as good as the ones in Japan.

thanksgiving

And please.. enlighten yourself if you know nothing about drifting. please visit www.d1gp.com

its the D1 Grand Prix USA...

and YES MOST JAPANESE FR CARS ARE MEANT TO DRIFT...

The RX7 ... NIssan Silvia (thank god they dun have this in America)...


haha scrwe the 350z... its an American Version of JApanese cars.. that;s why they can't turn as well.... RX8 rulz

Sorry to be a total bastard.. but I think America really is far behind in driving.

Gord96BRG

You're not a total bastard - you're just ignorant, and obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about with respect to Americans. Pretty unfair gross generalisations, don't you think? Are you trying to incite retaliatory insults about Japanese drivers? You won't get them, most of the forum members here have more class than that.

(BTW, I'm Canadian, not one of the Americans you attacked.)

Regards,
Gordon

ALMOST8IT

For those in Wisconsin, this is like standard winter driving around any turn, since tires don't grip ice that well. The downside is that if you "drift" in Wisconsin in the winter, you'll end up in a snow drift if you screw it up...

PUR NRG

You're not a total bastard, you're just stupid. America has marque clubs for BMW, Porche, Ferrari, Corvette, Viper, NSX, Miata and others that specialize in road racing, track and autocross events. We also have national organizations like the SCCA, NASA and various Karting associations that sponsor race events. How many japanese non-professional racing groups are there? How do their numbers compare to the stateside ones I mentioned?


Who in this thread has said drifting is easy? More stupid assumptions.


Some people think graphics and stickers on cars are stupid. It's called diversity and it takes all kinds.

I think japanese car designers design cars to make money. That's why it's called a business.


Here I'm going to call bullshit on you. List all JDM FR cars and cite references showing their designers had drifting as a key requirement. Can't do it? You made the claim, you back it up with proof. Otherwise you're just spewing hot air.

To everyone else: sorry I responded to his troll bait but I couldn't resist.

Elara

You're not a bastard if you abide by the TOS you agreed to when you signed up for the forum. It's not difficult to post your opinion without insulting people. I think what you meant to say was "I believe that many drivers in the United States do not realize how much fun drifting can be. Please take the time to listen to my reasons, and I'll try to explain as best I can."


Yes, that's a hint.

M-ster

Drifting is an art. Just like doing a 180degree turns or what John Copper would do to a mini. I think it's for the fun of it rather than gaining advantage during compitition. It's true like what Gordon mentioned, drifting puts you in a 'loose traction' kind of mode. There's a small percentage of possiblity that the car could get out of control, that's why you don't see it being practised in races like the F1... The other reason why races don't use drifting technic is that it eats up rubbers! As race tyres are soft compond, the drivers are suppose to preserve the rubbers and keep the car on the track as long as possible.
People get a car for many reasons. For those who get a car to serve their basic needs of getting from point A to B, picking up kids and wify would probably thinks that drifting is a waste of rubber. Then again, they're probably missing out certain kind of fun. For those who have not try drifting, please try it on the track first, til you master it, never on the public road. Consequences are unthinkable!! Have Fun.

brabuscclass

hey

brabuscclass

oops forget i posted that

thanksgiving

***mod edit- post politely or not at all***

RX7FD3

Ohhh Boy,... You are certainly raising hell here dude. take a little advise. Most forums you are allowed to imput your opinion in order to get feedback and to create a conversation based on 2 different opinions. That doesnt apply to this site.
Ive tried that and everyone starts bashing you, as a matter of fact, if you want to stay in the site you have to suck up to everyone
Just my 2 cents on personal experience if you dont want to get kicked out.

Elara

You can post whatever the heck you want, as long as you abide by the TOS and you're polite about it. Sorry I had to edit your post, but it can do nothing but get ugly if it sticks around.

PUR NRG

This reminds me of a story about a guy visiting China on business. During his stay he observes two Chinese arguing very loudly with each other. He remarks to his host, "Those two are so angry I'm surprised they aren't coming to blows already." "Ah," his host replies, "In China we believe the first person to strike a blow is admitting he has lost the argument."

Come on thanksgiving, can't you reply intelligibly without resorting to variations on "you suck"? Tell me how Japan has more non-professional racing organizations (and amateur racers) than the States. Prove me wrong and cite references showing japanese car designers intentionally design most JDM FR cars to drift. Or are you going to resort to name calling and thereby admit you lost?

Toadman

Better lap time within the drifing realm yes, but not the fastest way thru most corners on paved roads. That's why they accrue style points to balance out lap times. It's fun to watch, like automotive ballet or ice skating, but I wouldn't put my own car thru the torture on tires, brakes, engine and driveline components.

The SCCA formally recognizes drifting as a competition class as of this month for next season. Regardless of what the purists think, drifting is here to stay and suppliers are tooling up components for consumer business. (Oh no...I can see it now, The Fast and the Furious III, drift demons)
:D

sup3rbad

man... who died and made you drifting guru. anyway. the SILVIA in america would f*cking awesome. I'd take it over any car except the R34. 350z is an american version of a japanese car?? of course it is. Most import cars in America are american versions of japanese cars. 350z=Fairlady Z different name but basically the same great car. The only reason Japanese cars aren't showing up J-spec on Amrican soil is because of emissions standards.

sup3rbad

Then I really have a lot of growing up to do. I'll try and drift any car with an FR drivetrain. Regardless of how new it is. I call it giving my car some love. It's like taking your girlfriend out for dinner. It's a treat. Besides even the CHP (california highway patrol) like to drift. Just go to their training track and watch the fun.

Chrisbert

About as close as I come to drifting is breaking the rear loose on a few u-turns that were tight. I need to practice in a big empty parking lot before I take drifting to the street. Else, it may be drifting, sliding, crunching, serving (time)

Hercules

*nod* I have had the same experience in this regard... The only time I can get a semi-drift going, and it's really more of a powerslide with some control is first, when I rev it up and dump the clutch while in motion though I have had some scary experience in doing this because you don't know how much power will dump to the tires until it happens!!

And second, when it's raining I can simply take a turn, hit the gas in a lower gear and get my rear end out.

Aside from that, drifting without the proper tires is a futile task.

thanksgiving

Dfrfiting realyl is great fun... and it requires more technique then just normal driving. If you have never drifted, then dun say I am BSing.. if you have you will know.


Hahah ... you guys are just too far behind to ever catch up!!

Japan will never import their top notch cars into US!! woohoo

the moderator got a green RX8 wow that is beautiful!! Never seen a green one around yet... I wonder why