View Poll Results: How much HP do you think the MT RX-8 has?
I feel the RX-8 really does have 238 hp and I own the car
35
30.43%
I feel the RX-8 has less than 238 hp and I own the car
38
33.04%
I feel the RX-8 has 238 hp and I don\'t own the car
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14.78%
I feel the RX-8 has less than 238 hp and I don\'t own the car
19
16.52%
I don\'t know enough about the matter to really know one way or another
6
5.22%
Voters: 115. You may not vote on this poll
Do you think Mazda is being truthful with the HP
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Do you think Mazda is being truthful with the HP
Not trying to start a flame war or a big debate, in fact it would probably be best if you just voted and didn't explain why you feel the way you do since it's been covered so many times in other threads. I'm just curious what people really feel without having to defend their stance of get into a huge flame war or the same discussion ad nauseum.
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its probably going to start a flame war. you've already stated in voskos thread that you didn't feel it had 238 HP. i'm breaking mine in and have been granny shifting for a week now and havnt been over 4500 rpm but i voted that it does have 238HP because you asked me how i feel not whether i know if its true or not.
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Originally posted by RX-GR8
its probably going to start a flame war. you've already stated in voskos thread that you didn't feel it had 238 HP. i'm breaking mine in and have been granny shifting for a week now and havnt been over 4500 rpm but i voted that it does have 238HP because you asked me how i feel not whether i know if its true or not.
its probably going to start a flame war. you've already stated in voskos thread that you didn't feel it had 238 HP. i'm breaking mine in and have been granny shifting for a week now and havnt been over 4500 rpm but i voted that it does have 238HP because you asked me how i feel not whether i know if its true or not.
Magnesium, exactly what is negative about this poll, and yes there is an ignore button, and I've just used it. FYI I like the RX-8 quite a bit.
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
Let's hope this stays clear of flames, and your answer is fair enough :p
Magnesium, exactly what is negative about this poll, and yes there is an ignore button, and I've just used it. FYI I like the RX-8 quite a bit.
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Let's hope this stays clear of flames, and your answer is fair enough :p
Magnesium, exactly what is negative about this poll, and yes there is an ignore button, and I've just used it. FYI I like the RX-8 quite a bit.
Thanks,
Ike
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Blue you moron, if you could ever come up with an actual FACT for us to face that would be one thing. However you don't have any facts. You have a VERY small amount of data that supports your continued OPINIONS on this board. Of course, there is also data that does NOT support your opinion that you studiously ignore. So why don't you either start contributing with something useful or shut the heck up?
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NOT THIS CRAP AGAIN!!!!!!
Look go somewhere else, this BS has run its course. Drive the car, if you like it buy it, if you don't then shut the hell up and go find something else to do!!!!!!
Sorry, but this site is turning into the "nit-picking whiner forum". IT'S GETTING OLD!!!!!!!!
Look go somewhere else, this BS has run its course. Drive the car, if you like it buy it, if you don't then shut the hell up and go find something else to do!!!!!!
Sorry, but this site is turning into the "nit-picking whiner forum". IT'S GETTING OLD!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by aussie77
Blue you moron, if you could ever come up with an actual FACT for us to face that would be one thing. However you don't have any facts. You have a VERY small amount of data that supports your continued OPINIONS on this board. Of course, there is also data that does NOT support your opinion that you studiously ignore. So why don't you either start contributing with something useful or shut the heck up?
Blue you moron, if you could ever come up with an actual FACT for us to face that would be one thing. However you don't have any facts. You have a VERY small amount of data that supports your continued OPINIONS on this board. Of course, there is also data that does NOT support your opinion that you studiously ignore. So why don't you either start contributing with something useful or shut the heck up?
PS: Hey, I will video all the rx8's runs this weekend at import wars if there are any and post them here for ya for you all to see..
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Originally posted by RX22
NOT THIS CRAP AGAIN!!!!!!
Look go somewhere else, this BS has run its course. Drive the car, if you like it buy it, if you don't then shut the hell up and go find something else to do!!!!!!
Sorry, but this site is turning into the "nit-picking whiner forum". IT'S GETTING OLD!!!!!!!!
NOT THIS CRAP AGAIN!!!!!!
Look go somewhere else, this BS has run its course. Drive the car, if you like it buy it, if you don't then shut the hell up and go find something else to do!!!!!!
Sorry, but this site is turning into the "nit-picking whiner forum". IT'S GETTING OLD!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Blue 350z
You have Aussie and RX8Lover to blame for my behavior, they did there best to **** me off and they succeeded even when all I was doing is giving input and facts.
You have Aussie and RX8Lover to blame for my behavior, they did there best to **** me off and they succeeded even when all I was doing is giving input and facts.
On another note, I really haven't paid much attention to your previous posts, but why do you and this WRX guy hang out in the RX8 forum if you have a Z and a WRX? I'm not trying to be snotty, but I have no interest in going to a Z or WRX forum site, so I'm just trying to understand this. I assume that all of us here know that your Z and WRX are probably faster than our 8, but we really just don't care. I know I stopped caring about that stuff when I was 17.
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Like I said, when this is stilling going on months from now you will eventually have to accept its a low 15's, 90-92mph car.
That said Blue I am just going to ignore you. You are a troll. Nothing more than a troll. You don't say anything constructive or useful, and your 'facts' are nothing more than speculations. Whatever it is you are compensating for by being here and acting like an ***, I hope that someday surgery or drugs can help you with it. But I'm done responding to your BS.
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Originally posted by Blue 350z
You have Aussie and RX8Lover to blame for my behavior, they did there best to **** me off and they succeeded even when all I was doing is giving input and facts.
You have Aussie and RX8Lover to blame for my behavior, they did there best to **** me off and they succeeded even when all I was doing is giving input and facts.
OK, enough making fun of the idiot troll Blue350Z. It's way too easy, anyway. (I nominate Blue350Z for the position of "official village idiot of RX-8Forum"!)
Speaking of facts - IkeWRX, have you seen the new Rotary News article with Mazda Engineering's official announcement/explanation of why the RX-8 dyno numbers are low? Hate to spoil your fun, but maybe they actually are telling the truth? :p
Regards,
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IKE: By trying to group us all into your nice little catagories that you can understand, you left out the most important and major catagory of your slanted pole. Those that do not care about the HP, never did, have plenty to enjoy, and love the car. This is the one fact stated over and over in this forum that you and Blu refuse to listen to and apparently can't understand. Let me put it in different terms that maybe you will understand. FACT: I would have more fun losing to you, than you would ever have beating me!!! It is this one fact that you cannot even start to comprehend that pisses you and BLU off so bad.
People go to Forums for cars they have or wish they had. I wonder which one of these two catagories you and Blu fall into.
People go to Forums for cars they have or wish they had. I wonder which one of these two catagories you and Blu fall into.
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Originally posted by Blue 350z
You have Aussie and RX8Lover to blame for my behavior, they did there best to **** me off and they succeeded even when all I
was doing is giving input and facts.
You have Aussie and RX8Lover to blame for my behavior, they did there best to **** me off and they succeeded even when all I
was doing is giving input and facts.
Don't you get it? you **** off other people. And it stopped being about the car a long time ago. You could say anything about anything, and I (pesonally) would still think you are just trying to be this obnoxious, physcicist, arrogant almost 30 year old numb-nutts (yeah, you seem to be numb, with all due respect, you simply don't get it -you seem to be the guy who goes to a gay-parade to tell redneck gay jokes, and doesn't even realize where he is!)
You know I approached you the right way when I PM'd you, and you still replied with a simple: "I state facts..." fine. Now answer me this question: DO YOU LIKE THE RX8?
IkeWRX has my respect; he is simply acid and has a sense of humor. Some of us should actually learn a bit about him...at least he is not growing gray hair because of this forum. See my point?
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Originally posted by Gord96BRG
Speaking of facts - IkeWRX, have you seen the new Rotary News article with Mazda Engineering's official announcement/explanation of why the RX-8 dyno numbers are low? Hate to spoil your fun, but maybe they actually are telling the truth? :p
Speaking of facts - IkeWRX, have you seen the new Rotary News article with Mazda Engineering's official announcement/explanation of why the RX-8 dyno numbers are low? Hate to spoil your fun, but maybe they actually are telling the truth? :p
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Originally posted by Blue 350z
Even if thats true how do they explain the low numbers (expecially traps) people are getting at the track. The numbers point directly to a 180whp 3000LB car (RSX-Type-S comes to mind). That's gonna be alot harder to explain since you can't just explain it with technical mumbo jumbo.
Even if thats true how do they explain the low numbers (expecially traps) people are getting at the track. The numbers point directly to a 180whp 3000LB car (RSX-Type-S comes to mind). That's gonna be alot harder to explain since you can't just explain it with technical mumbo jumbo.
How do you explain the people that had met or surpassed Mazda numbers?! Goes both ways...
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LOL. It only goes both ways if you look at BOTH sides of the story. Some people refuse to do so unfortunately.
Good old rotarynews.com... you guys rock Thanks for keeping us up to date on the situation.
Good old rotarynews.com... you guys rock Thanks for keeping us up to date on the situation.
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Originally posted by MrWigggles
Guys,
It is a fair poll and the results are interesting.
-Mr. Wigggles
Guys,
It is a fair poll and the results are interesting.
-Mr. Wigggles
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Originally posted by Blue 350z
Even if thats true how do they explain the low numbers (expecially traps) people are getting at the track. The numbers point directly to a 180whp 3000LB car (RSX-Type-S comes to mind). That's gonna be alot harder to explain since you can't just explain it with technical mumbo jumbo.
Even if thats true how do they explain the low numbers (expecially traps) people are getting at the track. The numbers point directly to a 180whp 3000LB car (RSX-Type-S comes to mind). That's gonna be alot harder to explain since you can't just explain it with technical mumbo jumbo.
Originally posted by Gord96BRG
you consistently ignore any and all data points which don't agree with your position. I asked you before - the RX-8 1/4 mile runs you witnessed that were in the 15s - how did they launch? If it wasn't an 8K rpm clutch drop, they didn't get a real time. Period. Convenient to quote times when the drivers aren't getting the best from the car, isn't it? Of course, you try to ignore and refuse to answer those questions which make you look stupid (you're pitifully unsuccessful, by the way). Speaking of which, have you figured out the difference between bitumen and gravel yet?
you consistently ignore any and all data points which don't agree with your position. I asked you before - the RX-8 1/4 mile runs you witnessed that were in the 15s - how did they launch? If it wasn't an 8K rpm clutch drop, they didn't get a real time. Period. Convenient to quote times when the drivers aren't getting the best from the car, isn't it? Of course, you try to ignore and refuse to answer those questions which make you look stupid (you're pitifully unsuccessful, by the way). Speaking of which, have you figured out the difference between bitumen and gravel yet?
Regards,
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Originally posted by Gord96BRG
I could cruise down a quarter mile in a nice leisurely fashion and get a 30 sec. quarter mile - is that representative of what the car could achieve with a good driver?
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I could cruise down a quarter mile in a nice leisurely fashion and get a 30 sec. quarter mile - is that representative of what the car could achieve with a good driver?
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LOL... I wrote something like that when I was composing my last post.. but it was a little too flamable, so I removed it. It take skill to drive.. I know we all want to be an Andretti or an Ibarra, but that just isn't going to happen, unless you practice and practice... So get out and drive.
Good drag racers can get a whole second or more out of the same cars that novices use. And even then, their times can vary. So picking and choosing slow data points is like saying your College GPA is based off of your lowest grade you got in that midterm exam in DiffEq's.