Zoom49

Here is the new Mazda Price sheet showing Dealer Cost on
all packages and options just released. Thanks again to
Eccles for help with this post.
SEE BELOW



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Current Car 1995 Mustang Cobra
My first car 1972 Mazda RX-2
Also 1975 RX-4
And 1976 Mazda Cosmo
Next 2004 RX-8

maikeru

Zoom49, I pm'd you.

eccles

Here's the fax, resized for easier viewing:


Thanks, zoom49!

PUR NRG

Very neat info, but the april fool's issue date makes me wonder. Dealers are <b>only</b> getting a $2k markup over invoice? That sounds extremely low. Same goes with all the other options.
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wakeech

yeah, wow... this car is a helluva deal...

JerryR

When I pre-ordered back in February, the dealer left his invoice sheet on the desk and I was able to sneak a look at it. It didn't have the accessories listed of course, but it had the dealer cost and MSRPs on them, and from what I remember, they pretty much matched the posted sheet here.

tgd

go to edmunds.com

invoice info has been there for a while... and the info. here is correct. As comparison, the invoice on a base Z (2004) is $25,109 and the MSRP is $26,888... pretty slim margin, about $1800.

Of course they make a boatload of cash on "optioned" models, useless paint protection packages, plus the dealer holdback...

hmmmm... why did I post this again..... oh yeah, the invoice price has been available for a while :D

red_base 95

Also, Dealer holdback will add to the profits for the dealers. This essentially comes from the manufacturer back to the dealer for moving a car within a specified period of time, typically 90 days.

Edmunds has a good explanation of this on their website.

http://www.edmunds.com/advice/incent...ack/index.html

Mazda usually allocates 2% of base MSRP as the dealer holdback. Extra padding for the dealers. Another reason to never pay more than MSRP for a car.

Smoker

wakeech, do you know if we have one these somewhere on this forum for us Canadians ?

RX-Nut

Sadly most of us might have to pay more than MSRP. A car that's hot like this will definitely go in the dealers book as gouge bait. And coming from a place like me where there are only 3 Mazda dealers, it sucks.

Now I'm sure I could get MSRP.. when the dealer is sitting on a bunch of 8s ... late next year

red_base 95

Fortunately, I have the luxury of several dealers within 100 miles (a distance I'm willing to travel to save even $300). And most are reasonable.

I sincerely wish that gouging won't happen, but it does occur with virtually every new model with high demand and limited supply. If my memory serves correctly, gouging was a regular practice for Miata, PT Cruiser, S2000, Thunderbird, New Beetle, MINI Cooper, and the Z.

Here's hoping that everyone who frequents this board is knowledgable enough to avoid that situation. If you end up paying more than MSRP, you're either unfortunate, or stupid (and maybe both). :p

Good luck to all of us. I haven't pre-ordered, and may have to wait a while longer.

notb

This information is great! I'm actually quite hopefull I'll be able to get a RX8 for below MSRP. Dealers around here haven't yet pre-sold all of their first shipment. So within a month of sale start, below MSRP should be do'able.

Think about it, they can sell a car NOW for a little less money or hope that someone else LATER will buy it for MSRP. Using this invoice information will help me nail a reasonnable price.

And with the RX8 being a relatively high volume car, I don't expectc much gouging. I can kinda see with the Evo or the Sti, but not the RX8.

As far as gouging on the Z-car, wasn't there a plan put in place by Nissan to prevent that? I didn't read anything on how it went. I know the mini was ridiculous. So was the T-bird. And don't get me started on the Evo.

notb

When purchasing the apearance package, wouldn't you have to pay for the install? How much is that worth? I'm guessing that anything that is dealer installed costs more.

BillK

The options listed are installed at port and as such the pricing includes install and painting to match (i.e. I doubt Mazda is going to stock rear spoilers in each available color at port...)

eccles

One thing to beware of, if you're eager to get your car ASAP: according to my dealer, port-installed options may add one to two weeks to the delivery time. Guess they only have a milited number of trained monkeys at the port.

MrWigggles

No, I bet they are painted in Japan.

-Mr. Wigggles

RX-Nut

I would consider myself unfortunate.. not stupid. How daaaare...