Colour me Cpt Obvious...but i just realized...
04-22-2005, 12:25 PM
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Colour me Cpt Obvious...but i just realized...
Our RX8s make nearly the SAME wheel HP as a Mazda 6s.
(sigh).
Yeah - I'm still bitter about the 238hp I paid for...being missing.
that's all...
(sigh).
Yeah - I'm still bitter about the 238hp I paid for...being missing.
that's all...
04-22-2005, 12:30 PM
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And you got this info from where? You can't make those types of assumptions unless both cars were dyno'ed on the same machine under indentical conditions. If it's true, I'm not concerned about it, because the 6 is a helluva lot heavier, and it makes it's power from a large V6.
04-22-2005, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by shaolin
And you got this info from where? You can't make those types of assumptions unless both cars were dyno'ed on the same machine under indentical conditions. If it's true, I'm not concerned about it, because the 6 is a helluva lot heavier, and it makes it's power from a large V6.
Its just another bit of evidence pointing towards Mazda's bs when it comes to how much power people pay for.
There's some math floating around that compares the 1.3L Rotary with a 3.5L v6 in terms of pumping ability and such.
04-22-2005, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wintergrn
Sure, maybe it's the same HP, but it's on THE WRONG WHEELS! :D
Don't know if that helps you feel better, but it works for me.
Don't know if that helps you feel better, but it works for me.
lol
wrong wheels indeed. One thing I've noticed by doing some research - we make power over a longer duration...for instance...
Example (fictitious)MS6 - 170+whp from 5500-7000 - peak power at 180. That's a span of 1500 rpms.
My RX8 - 170+whp from 6500-8700 - peaking at 186. That's a span of 2200 rpms.
This implies my car is making the same, or more power, for longer... = quicker car.
Simple...but overlooked as I believe this is something a lot of people don't take into account when reading dyno plots; myself included. We tend to focus on peak numbers.
04-22-2005, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaspeedFeras
i havent done the math or looked at the theory but i think the area under the graph gives you an idea of the true power of a car.
05-12-2005, 10:16 PM
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geezus christ stop whining, who the hell gives a rats ***? do you race them everyday? does it matter? no, and just for the hell of it i'll tell you why you shouldn't be whining. 1. its a sportscar and will outhandle the 6 so bad its not even funny 2. the 6 has wrong wheel drive 3. most importantly it doesnt have a rotary engine.
05-12-2005, 11:09 PM
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More important than weight is weight distribution. The 6 has over 60% of its weight over the front wheels. I think Mazda should be commended and not reprimanded anyway when they make their bread and butter cars as sport as possible.
Power does not always equal sporty drive to me. Witness the Miata. The 8 is just like a bigger more practical Miata in the way it feels and drives with a far superior feeling motor.
If it did we would all buy Chrysler 300C's with a HEMI.
Power does not always equal sporty drive to me. Witness the Miata. The 8 is just like a bigger more practical Miata in the way it feels and drives with a far superior feeling motor.
If it did we would all buy Chrysler 300C's with a HEMI.
05-12-2005, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by StealthFox
geezus christ stop whining, who the hell gives a rats ***? do you race them everyday? does it matter? no, and just for the hell of it i'll tell you why you shouldn't be whining. 1. its a sportscar and will outhandle the 6 so bad its not even funny 2. the 6 has wrong wheel drive 3. most importantly it doesnt have a rotary engine.
goes with his background
05-12-2005, 11:58 PM
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whats his "background"
intresting we've been agreeing lately magellen
intresting we've been agreeing lately magellen
05-13-2005, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ZoomZoomH
200lbs is *a lot*, not 'not as much'
when you drive a 6s and the 8 back-to-back, tell me if you can't feel the weight difference
when you drive a 6s and the 8 back-to-back, tell me if you can't feel the weight difference
05-13-2005, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
to tell you the truth Stealthfox I can't remember what we had disagreed on in the past
05-13-2005, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by crosswound
bottom line is mazda shouldn't have did that little fib and should all give us a free turbo upgrade .
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05-13-2005, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp
Our RX8s make nearly the SAME wheel HP as a Mazda 6s.
(sigh).
Yeah - I'm still bitter about the 238hp I paid for...being missing.
that's all...
(sigh).
Yeah - I'm still bitter about the 238hp I paid for...being missing.
that's all...
That's just the way it is. It's not keeping me from trading in my Mazda6s for an RX-8 though, even after putting several thousand into the car.
05-14-2005, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Sigma
Yes, they do. And my Mazda6s will run a 14.8s bone-stock too.
That's just the way it is. It's not keeping me from trading in my Mazda6s for an RX-8 though, even after putting several thousand into the car.
That's just the way it is. It's not keeping me from trading in my Mazda6s for an RX-8 though, even after putting several thousand into the car.