Is clutch covered under 4/50 bumper to bumper?
10-26-2009, 04:16 PM
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Is clutch covered under 4/50 bumper to bumper?
I have a 2005 with the 4/50K bumper to bumper still under effect for a few more weeks.
I had Oak Tree Mazda in San Jose tell me that a clutch problem was not covered under the bumper to bumper and that Mazda warrantied the clutch for 12 months/12K only.
Is this BS?
I had Oak Tree Mazda in San Jose tell me that a clutch problem was not covered under the bumper to bumper and that Mazda warrantied the clutch for 12 months/12K only.
Is this BS?
10-26-2009, 06:06 PM
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The RX-8 has had it's share of clutch issues which, strangely enough, are rarely associated with the quality of the clutch system, itself. The biggest, and most common, problem is with the clutch pedal assembly being weak. Even with the factory clutch the welds on the factory pedal may weaken and break around 47K-49K miles. There are three remedies for this. The first is to take your clutch pedal assembly to a welding shop and have the assembly seam-welded where the backplate meets the mainframe. The second is to buy a notoriously expensive brand new pedal assembly that has had this service already applied to it and is warranteed for life from one of the vendors from around here (PM me and I will tell you who that vendor is). The third is to get a bolt-on bracket assembly from another vendor.
This is an important point because driving around with a weakened clutch pedal assembly will lead to long term synchronizer damage in the transmission and fixing this problem will help prevent such damage.
As for your clutch; what makes you think it is "bad"?
This is an important point because driving around with a weakened clutch pedal assembly will lead to long term synchronizer damage in the transmission and fixing this problem will help prevent such damage.
As for your clutch; what makes you think it is "bad"?
My clutch assembly is making bird-like chirping noises that go away when the clutch is depressed. Also he mentioned the clutch was stiffer than normal and that my first gear engagement was crunchier and required more effort than it should.
The rep said it'd be about $725 for labor and $600 for parts. They'd throw in a courtesy car though. Ack...
Thanks for the help and yes MNAO confirmed clutch is covered 12/12....sigh.
10-26-2009, 06:22 PM
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Get the dealer to fix what they are willing and then have your pedal welded up, bracketed, or both. You won't be disappointed in any case.
The "chirping" is the factory Koyo release bearing and is also why BHR supplies a better bearing with ALL of our clutch kits.
Good for you on the clutch being covered as they rarely are.
The "chirping" is the factory Koyo release bearing and is also why BHR supplies a better bearing with ALL of our clutch kits.
Good for you on the clutch being covered as they rarely are.
My dealer isn't willing to fix anything - thus the $1300 quote.
Do you recommend any of the three options you gave more than the other?
I was looking at BHR's site and my car is pretty much a weekend drive and I don't do any hardcore racing or autox. What would you recommend?
ACT Street Duty or Exedy Stage 1 or BHR Stage 1 clutch kit? I've read good things about the BHR kit and also that Exedy is good. What is the weight difference between these kits? Does the ACT have your upgraded release bearing? Finally - does your own BHR kit have a lifetime warranty? Finally, what are the warranties for these kits?
Thank you!!
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10-27-2009, 07:40 PM
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Just so you know a clutch bracket requires about 15 minutes to replace, for me, 10 the most.
you need 14mm sockets and some 6 inch extension bar. take 3 bolts out, and then use a flat head screw driver to pry the plastic bolt off.
reinstall, then use a hmm was it 10mm or 12 mm wrench to re-adjust the free play. which is another 5 minutes assume your car is on jack stand.
The bracket itself cost about 200> bucks online. BHR bracket sells the reinforced bracket, it will cost more of course, but its worth it if you dont know how to weld it yourself(or cant find the right person/place to do it)
you need 14mm sockets and some 6 inch extension bar. take 3 bolts out, and then use a flat head screw driver to pry the plastic bolt off.
reinstall, then use a hmm was it 10mm or 12 mm wrench to re-adjust the free play. which is another 5 minutes assume your car is on jack stand.
The bracket itself cost about 200> bucks online. BHR bracket sells the reinforced bracket, it will cost more of course, but its worth it if you dont know how to weld it yourself(or cant find the right person/place to do it)
10-27-2009, 09:00 PM
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No, but since the topic has been brought up (again);
The RX-8 has had it's share of clutch issues which, strangely enough, are rarely associated with the quality of the clutch system, itself. The biggest, and most common, problem is with the clutch pedal assembly being weak. Even with the factory clutch the welds on the factory pedal may weaken and break around 47K-49K miles. There are three remedies for this. The first is to take your clutch pedal assembly to a welding shop and have the assembly seam-welded where the backplate meets the mainframe. The second is to buy a notoriously expensive brand new pedal assembly that has had this service already applied to it and is warranteed for life from one of the vendors from around here (PM me and I will tell you who that vendor is). The third is to get a bolt-on bracket assembly from another vendor.
This is an important point because driving around with a weakened clutch pedal assembly will lead to long term synchronizer damage in the transmission and fixing this problem will help prevent such damage.
As for your clutch; what makes you think it is "bad"?
The RX-8 has had it's share of clutch issues which, strangely enough, are rarely associated with the quality of the clutch system, itself. The biggest, and most common, problem is with the clutch pedal assembly being weak. Even with the factory clutch the welds on the factory pedal may weaken and break around 47K-49K miles. There are three remedies for this. The first is to take your clutch pedal assembly to a welding shop and have the assembly seam-welded where the backplate meets the mainframe. The second is to buy a notoriously expensive brand new pedal assembly that has had this service already applied to it and is warranteed for life from one of the vendors from around here (PM me and I will tell you who that vendor is). The third is to get a bolt-on bracket assembly from another vendor.
This is an important point because driving around with a weakened clutch pedal assembly will lead to long term synchronizer damage in the transmission and fixing this problem will help prevent such damage.
As for your clutch; what makes you think it is "bad"?
10-27-2009, 10:32 PM
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would this result in the slipping feel? Ive had that start happening to me in the past week (46.5k miles) and the mazda dealer here told me it was my clutch system and they could replace the whole kit for 470 (labor) if i brought the parts in, but would this fix be all that is necessary? Also anyone know off hand if doing something like this myself would give mazda an excuse to void my warranty? And lastly i keep seeing 3 kits mentioned and the only one i didn't find in my general searching on my own was the bhr kit, what is bhr?
I wouldn't put in the stock clutch again - it just sounds like it is just a matter of time before something goes wrong with it. Just makes sure you get a heavy duty bracket. Although I think I have more problems than just the bracket. Someone put pics up on the bracket issues here: http://rotary4life.com/forum/showthread.php?t=250
FYI. BHR is Black Halo Racing http://blackhaloracing.com/products-...tch--flywheel/
You've been a member since Feb. 2008 - post a bit more.
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