yeah it gets confusing.

drag racing does require skill, a simple set amount of skill, but skill none the less.

i have seen our cars beat c6's and c5's. thats how i know you need skill to do this.

 

heh - that's funny .

 

I'm just saying that I have seen plenty of turboed RX8's here in San Antonio and none of them were very fast (low 13's is not really fast to me). I'm sure in Cali land you may have a bigger selection of highly tuned 8's but I think if I grabbed the four or five guys locally that have turboed 8's (all have Greddy's and one with the PTP) and lined them up against stock STI's they would all get beat in a standard 1/4 mile run and likely on a track.

I have never seen MM's time slips so I can't comment on that. I have seen a couple of guys with the PTP kit and I was not impressed at all.

 

Give me unlimited time and money and I'll (I being the people I hire with my unlimited monies who know how to do it) eat up those STi's with a 1990 Jeep Wrangler... in 4wd... Low... with the roof and doors off...and my leg hanging out. With a gansta lean. Haha. Anyone have unlimited monies I can borrow?

 

^^

Crack is bad.

 

Crack is Whack!!

(insert picture of Whitney Houston)

 

A STOCK STI does not do low 13s - more like low 14s high 13s so by your definition they are slow as well ....

BTW - most STI that go to the 1/4 mile track are not going to be stock anyway so that is probably why you think a turbo 8 is no match ....

 

completely true

actually magazines have gotten a better 1/4 mil off of the new 2009 WRX by .1 second haha

 

Wrong.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...2003134229.pdf

 

RX8 with mazsport kit barely beating a 240 with a stock SR20DET.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBXzVxMqc_c

 

hmmm - I have a wheels mag in front of me which has the 2008 STI 221KW version doing 14.1 .
Another 2005 mag has the 2.0 litre 195kw 04 version at 13.8
and yet another mag has the 206kw 2005 version at 13.8 also

 

What kind of times did the rx8's w/ the ptp kit?

 

Well I have raced a STI with an exhaust and intake from a 40mph roll and beat it with my Greddy turbo @ 9psi...not saying it would win from a dig, but from a roll it is possible. I plan to run my car against my buddies EVO IX MR when I get my 60-1 turbo upgrade from BNR. I will post the video up when it happens.

 

I love these threads.... anything can be made fast with money - anything can be made to run circles around an RX8, Porsche, STI etc with money.

My old autoshop teacher and our class built a sleeper Pinto that ran 9's in the 1/4 mile and he would take it out and race for pinks..... (he was also a bit crazy).


But.... Ugly don't heal.

 

I just wouldnt put a turboed 8 out of the question...even with a shitty base Greddy it can be quick and fun. But you get a 8 with 350rwhp+ I am sure it is absolutely nuts! I can't wait for my car to get there.

 

It's always broke, so it has never had a chance to run.

This is a really dumb topic, I can't believe I got sucked in. We are talking about a heavily modded car vs. a stock car and no controlled variables. Kane is right, anything can be made to be fast.

 

Hehe, yeah, I used to work with a guy who had a sleeper (don't remember the model) that looked like a heap of junk, but the engine was built and it was running so much NOS when the engine went it threw rods through the firewall and almost killed him. Before that though he was racing for money and winning every weekend. I did a logo for him with a baby sucking on a NOS bottle.

Btw, this thread is stupid.

 

Stock from dead stop = Lose for the RX8

Modded 8 vs. Stock STI = Win for RX8

$3000 to RX8 mods vs $3000 STI mods = Lose for RX8

Lets face it. Off the line the RX8 WILL lose unless the STI driver has no legs and one arm. On the track, RX8 may have a chance IF it has a lot of twists and turns. On the street, RX8 will lose(if at a dead stop, maybe win from rolling) unless you live near the Zoom Zoom road.

 

First off, a lot of benchracing in here. Most people have never been in a turbo 8 so yeah.

Secondly, whatever a Magazine tests a car at, add AT LEAST 0.5-1.0 seconds to the 1/4 mile time. They "speed shift" the trans and generally beat the **** out of the car. Most "normal" drivers lack A) The skill to drive like that, and B) Even if they COULD, they wouldn't because the car isn't a loaner. Think rental.

Thirdly, I walk on stock STi's and Evo's at 9psi. I've never launched on one but from a roll a turbo 8 is very potent. I've had a few modded STi's (including one that puts down 360ish ahwp) play around with me and I keep up no prob.

Stock, STi's and Evo's don't put down a whole lot (between 240 and 250 MAX). They have AWD, saps power.

 

do you do graphic design work for a living?

 

Nah, I'm a software engineer, but 10-11 years ago in college I wrote software and did whatever random web-design needed doing, so I got decent at basic graphic art. I whipped up his baby w/Nos logo and he loved it.

 

I dunno, the only RX-8 I know that has the Mazsport kit puts down like 340WHP and he spent over $8,000.00 total. To me, that's craziness.

I have a friend who has a modded EVO MR and just recently has he only been able to break into the 13's so I know full well how important the driver is, considering I ran high 13's in the same exact car when it was stock.

The best mod is driving lessons and track time. Then again, some of us just have "the gift"

 

Considering you can get 2005 RX-8s for 12k right now, spending ~$20-22k for a 4-door, 4-seater, 50/50 balanced, light sports car with 340 whp sounds like a goddamn bargain.

Can Evos and STis generate sick power? Sure, I know a guy who works in my building with a streetable 550 WHP STi time-attack car. It's a stripped, seam welded, alchohol injected monster. There are C6 Vettes with supercharger kits throwing down 600 horses with minimal investment.

The thing about the RX-8 is that it is not all about numerical comparisons and what things shake out like on paper. The car drives like no other car, smooth handling and acceleration, great looks, and SOUL. Even a question like "can a turbo 8 beat a stock sti?" doesn't mean much without context. At a roll with equal levels of driver skill I would absolutely put money on the 8. From a dead stop though AWD is stupid useful and even if the 8 was putting down more power the STi is going to launch better. Is the race a quarter mile race? Is it a stoplight to stoplight race? Are you on a track with actual turns? *shrug* It's a crapshoot argument either way.

 

8 viewers - heh . This thread may be lame but it gets a lot of attention just the same .

 

Change your avatar I can't keep track of your posts and Jedi's :P