Meeneevan

Not everyone thinks that the young ones will crash their cars, only the insurance companies do, that's why the rates are the way they are. Some of us adults have had a small fender bender in the past but that was when I was around twenty and not forty.

fenderlover

thank you for your opinions guys

i'm gonnan see if my local group is haveing a install thing or something work day like and see if we can fix my rims then thx

Krankor

Well, apparently, at 43 I'm not mature enough to know it either. All I saw was you being a dick.

NgoRX8

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stickman

Given your comment, krankor, I agree with your observation that you are not mature enough to know it either. Maturity is related to, but not a function of chronological age.

Krankor

Well, then, oh Prince of Maturity, please enlighten me. I've read your original comment numerous times and find nothing but dickishness in it. Please point me to the part that actually contained helpful information, so that I can learn from your shining example.

stickman

Look at his age, look at the way he says he drove the car, look at his responses and then tell me you think it is a good idea for someone his age to drive a car like this. I admit my comment was harshly worded but there are so many posts on this board (not to mention what you see on the road) from kids driving foolishly that after awhile you just want to say enough! Too many of these kids die too young in cars or kill someone else in the process of learning the hard way. Everyone makes mistakes at every age, its just that the frequency is higher among the very young and parents still get them cars like this at 16.

Krankor

This is not the issue. At no time did I ever say or imply that I thought it was a good idea for him to have the car. It's a moot point, he already has the car. The issue is that you responded to this initially by simply dumping on him, then claimed that you had actually told him something helpful, dumping on him further by claiming he was too immature to understand it. Then you dumped on ME, claiming *I* was too immature to understand it. I'm still waiting to see where, in any of this, you ever said anything helpful to anyone. All I see is snide put-downs.

You may indeed be tired of posts from kids driving foolishly. Me, for my part, I'm tired of the too-many people around here who have nothing to contribute but snide put-downs.

yiksing

stickman reminds me of the movie "Minority Report", lock them up before they commit it.

Give the newbie a break, we can only advise not thrash him.

fenderlover

thank you yiksing and krankor for defending the young newbs like me

stickman

Interesting how you overlook your own comments. In any event, the helpful point was to hopefully strike a cord to get him to think about what he was doing. Yes, it was intended to get to him but the objective was not to belittle, although I can see how it can be taken that way, but to get some reflection and a dialogue about it which it appears has in fact happened, at least to some degree. Maybe not the most artful approach and could have been done better, but there it is. Do you think STFU and DICK are particularly mature or useful comments? Am I supposed to respect that kind of thinking or should I assume it the output of reflex rather than thought? If speech reflects thought, then the way you talk does not reflect well on your thought process as a 43 year old; or are you just trying to be a cool 43 year old? Now you will probably consider that a put-down, I consider it a response calculated to encourage you to think about how you responded to me and if you still feel it was representative of how you think at 43.

cstokes24

A truly mature person would have answered his question or said nothing at all. Your statement does not make you mature, it merely shows that you are a cranky old guy.

stickman

People can be angered at any age. How you express that anger says something about you. You may disagree with my point of view or be critical of the way I express it and may even be justified in your criticism. However expressing your disagreement with obscenities doesn't help your credibility in my view. If I was truly the cranky type I would not love cars like the rx8 so much. The fact is, I am something of a car nut which I readily admit to.

Krankor

Ok. I'd say your intention was reasonable, but your implementation was a complete failure. It only came off as belittling, and that's not going to get him to think at all.


I think you have a reading disability. I never said STFU. I don't believe I have ever said STFU in my life. That was his response. I did say you were acting like a dick, and you were. And, by your own more thoughtful post now, I think that you're starting to see that too. I offered a 43 year old perspective to try to show you how your stuff was coming off, and I think I succeeded. I accept the fact that it wasn't coming off as you intended; text-only internet communication is notorious for misunderstanding.

stickman

I did not mean to infer you said STFU, I was lumping the responses together in the interest of economy. Now lets get back to enjoying our cars.

Krankor

The best thanks you could give would be to drive safely, read the thread about the guy who wrecked his 8 after drinking, and try to be more mature in your posts. While stickman's original post was certainly belittling, your response to it undeniably seemed to support his accusations of immaturity. You can defend yourself from put-downs without having to resort to calling them a "retard" or putting STFU in giant font. Show us that young newbs can act better than that.

stickman

Well said and let's remember we all have at least one thing in common, we love the car and what it does.

yiksing

Well said Krankor, you could be a mod.