ARCO (part of BP) gas - your thoughts?
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ARCO (part of BP) gas - your thoughts?
I use ARCO in my 8 and have never really noticed that it runs poorly with it. I know some 8 owners hate ARCO with a vengeance.
However, ARCO is owned by BP, which is one of three largest oil corporations in the world. I would assume that gas sold under their moniker would be decent? ARCO (BP) is a vertical operation so its not like the stations are buying on the spot market. The stations are getting their gas from their own refineries.
To me it seems that some knock ARCO because its so cheap with the belief that cheap=bad. I think its ARCO/BP executing a pricing scheme and marketing strategy by hoping to sell in larger volumes due to lower pricing, not taking credit cards, and ATM cards with a fee?
Just my thoughts.
However, ARCO is owned by BP, which is one of three largest oil corporations in the world. I would assume that gas sold under their moniker would be decent? ARCO (BP) is a vertical operation so its not like the stations are buying on the spot market. The stations are getting their gas from their own refineries.
To me it seems that some knock ARCO because its so cheap with the belief that cheap=bad. I think its ARCO/BP executing a pricing scheme and marketing strategy by hoping to sell in larger volumes due to lower pricing, not taking credit cards, and ATM cards with a fee?
Just my thoughts.
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I don't use ARCO and I know some people think their gas is watered down. However, someone I know who works for the state of California as a chemical engineer says that their gas is fine.
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Originally Posted by kuleto
I believe they aren't part of the group of gasoline companies that are considered "top tier" unlike Chevron or Conoco
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kinda different here. BP usually cost LESS than other stations. and theres a BP and mobil around my home, and its funny to see them complete with each other the whole time.
Its all good, I get cheaper gas :D
but I for some reason *feels* that Shell has better gas. dunno why, car seems to be able to pull faster with it. but Shell gas will burn faster (than other 2) for some reason .... maybe I floor too much :D
Its all good, I get cheaper gas :D
but I for some reason *feels* that Shell has better gas. dunno why, car seems to be able to pull faster with it. but Shell gas will burn faster (than other 2) for some reason .... maybe I floor too much :D
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First, I agree with alnielsen on the Shitgo gas. Boycott Venezuela.
I learned something very interesting here in Arizona a few years back when a gas main caved in there in Tucson and ALL gas stations were void of gas. Long story short ... at least here in AZ: All gas comes from the same main line. Each company then adds its "additives" to make it Chevron or Mobil or Exxon or whatever. The idea that gas is watered down (something we used to think about Citgo when I was young) is probably not true for any gas. Seems to me that water would make any engine ping pretty bad so I just think this probably doesn't happen.
It all boils down to the additives that an individual company applies to the raw product which probably gets bought from the very same sources. And frankly, I have a feeling it doesn't matter what gas you put in your car ... and the octane level probably doesn't matter either.
One big marketing assault on the consumer.
I learned something very interesting here in Arizona a few years back when a gas main caved in there in Tucson and ALL gas stations were void of gas. Long story short ... at least here in AZ: All gas comes from the same main line. Each company then adds its "additives" to make it Chevron or Mobil or Exxon or whatever. The idea that gas is watered down (something we used to think about Citgo when I was young) is probably not true for any gas. Seems to me that water would make any engine ping pretty bad so I just think this probably doesn't happen.
It all boils down to the additives that an individual company applies to the raw product which probably gets bought from the very same sources. And frankly, I have a feeling it doesn't matter what gas you put in your car ... and the octane level probably doesn't matter either.
One big marketing assault on the consumer.
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Maybe someone can explain this:
In the DC area for example, almost all gasoline is delivered by underground pipe to one of two fuel terminals. Every tanker gets their gas from one of these these terminals and (I think) differentiates "their" gas by tossing in a bucket of additives into their truck. So it seems the base gasoline stock is identical for everyone in the area. Just the additive package is different. Yes, oil companies have refineries but the refined product they produce is mostly put into a pipeline and distributed along with with everyone else's stuff. The difference in price at the pump amounts to how efficiently you manage your retail gas station. Poorly managed ones charge more. I suppose if you lived close to a refinery your gas station could get their stuff direct.
In the DC area for example, almost all gasoline is delivered by underground pipe to one of two fuel terminals. Every tanker gets their gas from one of these these terminals and (I think) differentiates "their" gas by tossing in a bucket of additives into their truck. So it seems the base gasoline stock is identical for everyone in the area. Just the additive package is different. Yes, oil companies have refineries but the refined product they produce is mostly put into a pipeline and distributed along with with everyone else's stuff. The difference in price at the pump amounts to how efficiently you manage your retail gas station. Poorly managed ones charge more. I suppose if you lived close to a refinery your gas station could get their stuff direct.
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Danhilde beat me. Gasoline and water do not mix so you can't water it down. The water would just collect in the bottom of your gas tank. It seems to me putting more additives in like cleaners "waters" down gas.
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Originally Posted by Ericok
Danhilde beat me. Gasoline and water do not mix so you can't water it down. The water would just collect in the bottom of your gas tank. It seems to me putting more additives in like cleaners "waters" down gas.
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Originally Posted by danhilde
First, I agree with alnielsen on the Shitgo gas. Boycott Venezuela.
I learned something very interesting here in Arizona a few years back when a gas main caved in there in Tucson and ALL gas stations were void of gas. Long story short ... at least here in AZ: All gas comes from the same main line. Each company then adds its "additives" to make it Chevron or Mobil or Exxon or whatever. The idea that gas is watered down (something we used to think about Citgo when I was young) is probably not true for any gas. Seems to me that water would make any engine ping pretty bad so I just think this probably doesn't happen.
It all boils down to the additives that an individual company applies to the raw product which probably gets bought from the very same sources. And frankly, I have a feeling it doesn't matter what gas you put in your car ... and the octane level probably doesn't matter either.
One big marketing assault on the consumer.
I learned something very interesting here in Arizona a few years back when a gas main caved in there in Tucson and ALL gas stations were void of gas. Long story short ... at least here in AZ: All gas comes from the same main line. Each company then adds its "additives" to make it Chevron or Mobil or Exxon or whatever. The idea that gas is watered down (something we used to think about Citgo when I was young) is probably not true for any gas. Seems to me that water would make any engine ping pretty bad so I just think this probably doesn't happen.
It all boils down to the additives that an individual company applies to the raw product which probably gets bought from the very same sources. And frankly, I have a feeling it doesn't matter what gas you put in your car ... and the octane level probably doesn't matter either.
One big marketing assault on the consumer.
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Originally Posted by alnielsen
Octane reduces the speed of the gasoline burning in the combustion chamber. This will help eliminate pre-detenation.
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasoline-faq/part3/
read 6.2 and 6.3 especially
it is only a measure of the unburned end gases' ability to resist autoignition before the flame front arrives. it has nothing to do with how the fuel burns(faster or slower etc) or the flame front propogates.
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I used to put ARCO in my cars when I was younger (and a broke college student) but now I avoid them because of the fact that I can't use my Discover card there.
I don't have a problem using my DEBIT card their BUT I have to input my PIN which means I get charged $.35 from them which no longer makes it cost effective to go to ARCO.
I tend to use Shell because they're very well priced and I can use my Cash Bonus Credit Card and my Cash Bonus Debit card there as well...
I don't have a problem using my DEBIT card their BUT I have to input my PIN which means I get charged $.35 from them which no longer makes it cost effective to go to ARCO.
I tend to use Shell because they're very well priced and I can use my Cash Bonus Credit Card and my Cash Bonus Debit card there as well...
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
I used to put ARCO in my cars when I was younger (and a broke college student) but now I avoid them because of the fact that I can't use my Discover card there.
I don't have a problem using my DEBIT card their BUT I have to input my PIN which means I get charged $.35 from them which no longer makes it cost effective to go to ARCO.
I tend to use Shell because they're very well priced and I can use my Cash Bonus Credit Card and my Cash Bonus Debit card there as well...
I don't have a problem using my DEBIT card their BUT I have to input my PIN which means I get charged $.35 from them which no longer makes it cost effective to go to ARCO.
I tend to use Shell because they're very well priced and I can use my Cash Bonus Credit Card and my Cash Bonus Debit card there as well...
I use cash there so I don't get dinged. I think most people who go there pay cash.
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