Grant696

Alright well I live in MI where we get all different kinds of weather and my question is, how well does the 8 perform in the snow?

DriftX8

Ive heard that 04 rx8s idle very roughly in cold temps. in order to warm up the engine, but im pretty sure if you turn it on and let it run for 2-3 minutes before you drive you should be fine. ask a local dealer, they'll tell you what you wanna know,



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Juice

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No problems with snow tires. Big problems without them. Ground clearance can be a problem if you are trying to drive through more than 6 inches of snow while at stock ride height. When the car is first started it will go into a high idle (varies by temperature) and will slowly drop down to normal idle as it warms up.

Thats about it. Just make sure you have snow tires and keep in mind that the gas mileage will more than likely go down a good amount.

MICHGoBlue

My train of thoughts have always been, put the money you would've spent on snow tires/wheels into a beater.
If you live in a state that doesn't get too much snow, then it's fine.
But since you live in Michigan, I don't need to tell you about the conditions of the highways there in the winter.

Vlaze

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My plan is buy aftermarket rims with performance tires for rain/dry weather and use the stock rims with mounted winter tires which can easily cost under 4-500 for a decent pair to last the winter. If you don't have the DSC on your car, just have a level head. If you've never driven on snow especially with a RWD, then get a beater. Otherwise you'll be fine. Don't forget to wash that bad boy each week though with the snow on the road to keep rust/corrosion away.

Huey52

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Thus far this week we've had what oil, moisture in tailights, will these tires fit, and now '8 good in the snow. OMG!!!

ken-x8

Pair? The current conventional wisdom is to put winter tires on all four corners.

Look into 17" winter tires on inexpensive rims. There's a big price difference between 17" and 18" tires, and the narrower taller tires will work better in snow.

Ken

Vlaze

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If you want all 4 tires to be snow, that's fine. I'm more concerned with the ones where power is being distributed which is where they matter most. You do not need all 4 to be winter tires. All my past vehicles I've only used 2, on the rear with a RWD vehicle, with no issue still having plenty of control on the highway jammed with snow passing people without any handling compromise. If you grew up on snow with RWD this should be all you need.

However, for the Rx8 I am considering all 4 just because of the fact that the OEM are not as good contrast to a typical vehicle OEM tire since it's a sports car. But again, IMO, it's not necessary for those who have a level head.

I won't invest in 17 rims and pay more for 4 rims and tires than just 2 tires for my stock 18's, maybe 4 all around. I haven't fully decided

CarAndDriver

Walking on thin ice, I'm paying the price....

NotAPreppie

I like to be able to steer and power around in the snow.
Four Nokian WR G2 tires in 225/50/17 got me through last winter in Chicago.

zell311@

get a winter rat is prolly your best bet

RIWWP

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IF you have the option of a winter beater, it is the best. 2 winters in my 8, the first on original summer tires was rough, but only because it was a very mild winter with the snow landing during business trips or over weekends for the most part. Last winter I has snow tires, and it was amazing what I could do with the snow tires, but trying to keep the 8 clean and un-beaten was a serious pain. I only have enough room for 1.8 cars in my driveway, with my wife's Mazda5 taking up her fair share. I am trying to get an old MX-5 before this coming winter though, a beater I don't mind driving that is tiny to fit down the side of my house once I move the fence....and smaller tires for cheaper tires

ken-x8

Now that you mention it... I grew up on snow with RWD. Snow tires on the back when I could afford them, summer tires and a little extra common sense when I couldn't. The only time I got in trouble was when I discovered that snow tires back in the '60s didn't do a whole lot of good on hard packed snow. They did, however, grip nicely on the soft snow in the ditch, so I was able to get back into the highway without a problem.

Ken

Grant696

Thanks for all of your input!

New Yorker

I disagree. So does Tire Rack which, admittedly, is trying to sell you tires. But they make a good argument—and they have a convincing video:

"While it was a common practice to install a pair of winter / snow tires on the rear axle of a rear-wheel drive vehicle decades ago, the advances in winter / snow tire technology and traction that have occurred since then have made that practice unacceptable.

Watch as we learn what happens on our snowy test track when driving with only two winter / snow tires installed vs. four…"

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=110

ken-x8

That's a nice demonstration. But it would be nicer if they included a car with regular tires all around, to show what benefit you get from two snows in the rear. I'm not sure how advances in snow tires reduce that benefit.

Personally, if I got winter tires I'd go for them all around. But I did make it through enough winters the old way. FWIW, the adventure I alluded to in my other post would not have been avoided with snows on the front. Modern tires in the back would have helped.

Ken

RIWWP

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For the benefits of snow tires....imagine trying this on summer tires. Granted, it is all wheel drive, so ignore the acceleration if you want, watch the directional control and stopping ability of these tires on snow. It isn't flat out, but it is a hell of alot faster than I would do on summer tires.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfXkJMDWDMU

alz0rz

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get snow tires and you will find this sports car is very capable in the snow.

Vlaze

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Not to be an ***, but I don't give a raz *** who says what. You can't take away experience growing up in CNY with any where from 4 to 6 months of winter all year round all my life living there on a RWD vehicle with only 2 snow tires on the rear. I said it once and will say it again, you do not NEED 4 tires. It's NICE yes, but is NOT a necessity if you KNOW how to drive on snow with a RWD vehicle.

You apparently miss the point. I didn't say 2 was better, yes 4 is better than 2, common sense. I said for those who know how to drive on snow 2 is fine, you don't need anymore than that. If you want 4 for full traction, good for you. Still it's not needed in order to get around in winter, 2 will do.


En fin.

EDIT: Wow that vid made me laugh. I could go over 25 on my truck I traded in with RWD and differential slip and get around fine with only 2 winter tires on the rear. Makes me think they went over the top to try to prove a point instead of realistic impersonation. They said the snow tires were on the front, but that's a BMW vehicle which I'm pretty certain they make RWD or AWD, not FWD and if they noted tires were on that front that makes it AWD so that proves nothing contrast to the point I was making.

If you have an AWD or 4WD vehicle, then it makes sense to get 4 winter tires. For a RWD vehicle (RX8) which is what this thread is about, you do not need 4 with the power being distributed to just the rear if you keep a level head and know how to drive on snow. If you're skittish about it and is your first time, then go get 4 for more assurance. Doesn't change the fact that you don't need 4 to get by.

Mr.We$t

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Hay I'm still deciding on a beater does anyone have any sugesstions on a winter car?!

alz0rz

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rx8.

Mr.We$t

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Lol well what I wanna do is start my turbo & body kit projects and all the other wonderful things im gonna do with this car and I'm gonna keep it in my garage so I need a humdinger to push around any suggestions.??

XplicitZero

lol my personal opinion its kinda fun to driver in the snow.

if u learn to control the slide, every turn is fun :D but thats when ur driving. just don't park on the street and get buried in snow.

empty parking lots with snow -> get creative :D you save rubber too :P

NotAPreppie

I guess my question is that, if you can afford it, why WOULDN'T you go with four? I mean, if you can get around just fine on two then four would give you that much more capability in hairy situations.

Vlaze

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More than likely yes, it would assist more. However for myself I've gone through trial and error mistakes on snow so I'm not worried about it. You get an idea what to do and what not to do to handle your way through the snow. I'm more worried about the rear getting grip, I can always brake/power to kick the rear loose on an understeer and just control the slide in an oversteer. As I mentioned previously, if I had no issue on the highway around 70 mph on hardpacked snow consuming the entire highway with just 2 on the rear, I'm not worried about it on the front.

However upon inspection of the front OEM tires or perhaps the tires that came with the 8 I bought (used) I might buy 4 because of the tread pattern on the front does not look friendly for snow IMO. That's the only reason I'm considering it.