Rotary78

I have a Turbo Charged 8 MT and my best friend just bought the new MAZDASPEED 6 MT which is also turbocharged. He wanted to get an 8, but he's not familiar with the rotary engine so he went with the next best thing. I like it, the clutch is a little funny, but overall another good production by mazda. but i still love my 8, he could sort of keep up with me on the highway, that thing is pretty loud, but as soon as I floored it the 8 showed off haha .... Mazda is coming out with better cars every year.... Thought I would share this little comment. Gotta love the 8's!

drive on

GUY123

sthreet rasthing isth prohibithed.....

Rotary78

we didn't race, we just tested each others car out, were just figuring out how it was compared to the 8, and no one was on the road it was like 1:30 AM... I hate ******** who drive like maniacs, sorry not one of them.

Raptor2k

You have the greddy turbo?

silver_8

how much for turbO? and all other parts neccesary for installation?

Rotary78

Yeah I have the GReddy Turbo Kit....It was like $3,740 and the installation I don't remember exactly, I brought it to my brother's friend and he did it for me. In the package came the bolt on Turbo kit, manifold and downpipe, front mount intercooler,the piggyback engine management system and it also came iwth all the hardware and that crap, and the oil lines. It's been good so far, haven't had any engine problems, so my warranty is still active. ::Knock on wood:: I won't have any problems in the future. I'd say it's worth it, but i'm not that knowledgeable about the Turbo and 8's as some people in here....

Pololo_RX8

You should change the subject line... It's not really a FAIR comparison between a "Turbo RX8" with the Mazdaspeed6.

I will be more interested in a comparison between the 8MT with the MS6.

Carlos

mkaresh

There's no comparison between the two.

The MS6 is a nose-heavy 3600-pound sedan with a high seating position. The RX-8 has the driving position, balance, and agility of a true sports car. The styling of the MS6 is forgettable at best. The RX-8 looks like nothing else.

The only significant advantages of the MS6 are much more midrange power, AWD traction, and better fuel economy.

I'd much rather have the RX-8.

NoTears316

You got ripped off at that price.

hondasr4kids

I test drove the MS6 a few days ago. For a 3600 LBS car it actually moves pretty good. It handles good it acelerates awesome is confy as hell and has a trunk. If you are looking for a 8 and don't plan on modding it but are a little worry about performance this is a car for you. I also didn't like the clutch is felt cheap. in the looks department I don't like the hood but that could be fix with a FMIC and a regular Mazda 6 hood. The other thing I don't like is the lost of power it gets from heat soak on the TMIC. THat Ic doesn't get any ventialtion at all. I was readingin the Mazda 6 Club forum how someone took it to the dyno and gain 25 whp in just putting ice directl on top of the I/C and all the detonation and power lost from 4250 rpm was gone. So there would be a FMIC available for that car soon. I do plan on getting one some time but I want to give it some more time to see how the aftermarket goes with it. I know there are a few companies out already working on ECU upgrades and all kind of stff already so that is a plus. But I'm waiting on suspension stuff. The 8 is not your ideal family car s that's why I either trade it for the MS 6 or just buy the wife a MS 6 just depend if some realese a ECU reflasher for the 8.

Ike

The MS6 is a big disappointment, I honestly can't figure out why someone would pick it over several other cars on the market. I'd take an RX-8 over the MS6 any day, and I'm a huge fan of AWD turbo cars.

hondasr4kids

Ike is called personnal prefference. It varies from person to person. For me is a good compromise. I get to move my 2 kids in confort with some performance without having to worry about voiding warranties. The only other car I would consider is a E39 M5 which is also on my book but the fact that the MS6 has a warranty makes it better. I don't like the Legacy GT. For the price I get a better equiped car. The Sti is smaller and less equiped. EVO don't even have cruise control a big no-no for me since I do drive a lot on freeways. WRX are slow and not as roomy. In other words I'm looking for a mid-size sedan size with some type of Torque and speed to it and good handling.

mkaresh

WRX is far from slow, especially with the 2.5 for 2006. If you drove a pre-2006 it is now a much different feeling car. Suspension and steering upgraded at least as much as the engine.

I personally like the Legacy GT more than the MS6, but cannot quite put my finger on why.

If the MS6 was available as a hatch or wagon I'd probably like it more. The sedan looks so plain and with no folding rear seat and reduced trunk volume its utility is limited.

shaolin

I miss my RX-8

hondasr4kids

The MS does have folding seat. I don't know why Mazda advertise this but it does have it.
http://forum.mazda6club.com/index.php?showtopic=43583

hondasr4kids

I hate the Legacy It like a wanabe of something. It like so fake (luxury dept.) My brother has one and I can't stand riding on it. The 06 WRX might feel faster because the new 2.5 motor but that is the only thing performance wise on it that changed. I haven't driven one but not interested either. To get any good HP # out of it you have to get a STi tranny or something strong enough to hold the power. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

shaolin

Why does subaru change their **** so damn often? Same as Mitsu? I mean it's like you buy something and it's outdated in a year. Every time I turn around they have a new impreza or evo out.

Ike

It's called competition and trying to outdo one another, it's a good thing IMO.

Hondasrforkids, the new WRX just ran a 13.8 @99mph, faster than a MS6 and it handles better. The MS6 rear seats may fold down but the WRX comes in a wagon if you want that extra space. You're also wrong about the tranny, while the earlier WRX had more problems there are plenty of guys running around with 300whp in their daily rides with the stock tranny. Plus, how do you know the MS6 tranny is any better?

In addition, the MS6 isn't even running well in stock form, it can't handle 91 octane gas which a lot of the country has, and it has improper cooling and is suffering from heatsoak issues. Goodluck getting any more power out of it without lots of upgrades and custom fabrication... Eevn if you do that you still have a 3600lb. pig on your hands that doesn't handle very well.

Ike

Missed some stuff... once again, you're wrong. The new WRX has larger wheels, reportedly a stronger tranny, and also has the old STI brakes on it (4 pots front 2 pots rear). Despite it only being increased 3hp from the factory it dynos 20-25whp higher than the previous models.

UFGator12

The only thing that the MS6 has on the 8 is the amazingly good looking black and white tutone interior. WOW! And, if it's important to you, a trunk.

hondasr4kids

It doesn't have the STi brakes but they are better than the previous one. STi are Brembos, the WRX are just Subarus brake but upgraded version of the previous years WRX they are pretty much pretier. I haven't done any reaserch on the new WRX but I guess I need to. From this thread it doesn't look like 20-25 whp but it does make more than the 2.2 ones. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=862531
But the a sucky part is that the engine mounts are made out of plastic. My brother is a Suby junky and he has them at his house evry weekend. The rumor are if you lunch hard on the WRX you are going to break a mount.

hondasr4kids

You are missing the point here. For a Mid-size sedan (MS6) that is better equipped than other at around the same value it a good car if you not planning on leaving it stock. It performs good out of the box and it will give me what I want out of a family car. Now If I want to get crazy *** HP #, have awesome handling and look good while I'm doing it, I'll go back to a FD.

Ike

1.) Notice where it says old STI brakes, it wasn't until fairly recently that the STI got Brembos. The brakes on the '06 WRX are the pretty much the same as older version STI brakes.

2.) Many shops have reported dynoing '06 WRXs 20+ whp higher than previous generation WRXs.

3.) The previous WRX is a 2.0L, still is in other parts of the world.

4.) The WRX mounts are not the same as the new '06 STI mounts, which are liquid filled composite. No worries with the WRX motormounts like the STI, the STI mounts will be fixed in a TSB most likely since they're not holding up on the STI.

5.) Don't call me on this stuff, you will lose more times than not

Ike

You're missing the point that the MS6 can't even handle tghe horsepower it has now. The ECU is pulling timing in stock form, it's even running like crap for Magazine reviews. In addition the handling has been pretty widely critisized. If that's what you want out of you family car knock yourself out.

hondasr4kids

Loose? I didn't know my personal opinion was on a competition. To me Subarus are over-rated. The MS 6 is not a track car but it has what I'm looking for. The problem the MS 6 has with the power is the mounting of the i/c and no ventilation, easy fix if I was worry about hp # other wise I would keep the 8. The only other car that I will consider is a BMW E39 M5. Is a bit more $ but it is a better car also.