LesPaul

ToRX-8orToZ wrote: " Ummmm.... I'd just like to say.... that you are all retarded"

As the father of a Down Syndrome daughter, a form of mental retardation, I find your statement highly offensive. You would never make such a comment about a racial group yet you find it appropriate to slur a group of people unable to defend themselves. Yeah, you are a real tough cookie. Grow up. My daughter, through no fault of her own, might not know right from wrong, but what is your excuse??

ToRX-8orToZ

My excuse? Hrm.... I'm just an A$$-hole; though I'd disagree that the parameters around my offense constitute a debate on what is "wrong" and what is "right".

Recognize that because of the anonymous nature of the internet, that people are (consiously or not) more inclined to speak their mind. If your daughter was within earshot of me, I would be more sesnative to her "plight", however since I doubt she is reading this message board... I won't take anything back. The fact that you are offended as a Father of a DS girl... well, in all honesty means nothing to me. I'm not quite sure if I'm sorry for THAT; lemme get back to you.

Anyhow, I doubt even your daughter is as sensative.

P00Man

still though, that isnt really called for...

like, calling something like a book retarded, is fine by me, but using it to try to make fun of people really bugs me, not that i care about your statement, just sayin

ToRX-8orToZ

I hear you, and LesPaul as well. Now that someone on this board has voiced a concern over that specific comment, I'll take it into consideration when it pops into my head again. I do feel that we are looking at a case of hypersensativity here though.

rx8infl

wow.........things got really wierd in here,,,,,,,,,lets get back to talking about our cars

M6Gr8

This is indeed a very interesting thread.But I always have the weird feeling that ppl own one car then bash the others,why?? I guess each has each own tast and opions, but one doesn't need to bash the others just to prove his own is the best.

My 2cs worth.BTW,I like both

NoPistons4Chris

Forget both those cars! It's all about the Saleen S7. HAHAHAHA! But seriously, both are great cars. They both have their ups and downs. In my opinion, it comes down to me loving rotary over your conventional piston engines. If I had a choice, I'd just take both!

ggreen29

Blue 350zx: but you just bashed the RX8 w/ nonsense commentsStandard care will give you hundreds of thousands of enjoyable miles. And so far it's only the 8's green engines that have disappointing gas mileage.

RX8-U-UP

Blu350Z posted on another thread the question: What is so inovative about the RX8? He is a troll destrying alot of good threads, but this is just in case he truly wanted an answer. 1) The dual rear door was in the RX concept car long before saturn stole the idea. 2) The only car, and company who still uses and refines the rotary engine. 3) The mach super charger effect created by the third port kicking in at 6200 RPM. This inovation gives you the durability, reliability and longevity of a N/A engine, with a non destructive method of boosting performance. (Innovation still in work). 4) Compact car with comfortable back seat, that can realistically seat adults. 5) Seats and headrest that truly makes you feel one with the car. These are just a few that are in stark contrast to Z(not) car.

Go ahead BLU350Z, go to your local Mazda dealer and drive an 8, no one will laugh at you, you can take a different car. You know how I know you have not driven an RX8, because you bought a Z. Test driving an RX8 won't necessarilly make you buy an 8, but from my experience test driving an RX8 before or after a Z will keep you from buying a Z. There are too many intangible differences, let alone the tangible savings, that would not allow me to even give the Z a second thought. Been there, drove a Z, nice car, drove an 8, great car, bought an 8, no regrets.

On second thought don't drive an 8, I hate to see grown men cry. I've already seen one Z owner do that after looking and hearing my car. He just kept murmuring, I should have waited, I should have waited. I told him he had a very nice car and he should be proud, and that didn't appear to make him feel any better. While I was trying to console him, I was looking at his car thinking, thank god I waited. At least I drove the comparables and made a choice.

More opinion, I know, but its mine, and thats all that matters to me. Oh yea, and that Z owner I met, if his opinion counts.

graphicguy

Yea, 350Z blueboy caused another thread to be closed down because of his inane comments.

He's was exposed as a troll and a liar!

BRx8

that was a response to my post saying the RX-8 was innovative...anyhow, he came back saying his precious 350Z has a stopwatch (?), aluminum driveshaft, and tire pressure monitors...ok, well we have a carbon fiber driveshaft, tire pressure monitors, and an LCD screen displaying time, CD track, ambient temperature, and climate control...

his real only defense is the speed of the car, and that's it...he basically keeps going back to 0-60, 5-60, and 1/4 mile...while that's great and all, the few 1/10ths of second longer it takes the RX-8 to get those numbers is a worthy tradeoff for having a revolutionary INNOVATIVE sports car that seats 4 grown adults, 2 doors + 2 suicide doors, and is powered by a rotary...i see no other car like it...THAT's innovation...

oh, and i see no point in feeding the trolls so i didn't bother responding to him...i feel that feeding the trolls only makes them more hungry as they are already starved for attention...

Sputnik

No, Blue 350z has not caused any of the threads to close down. And frankly, I didn't see where anyone was able to expose him as a liar either.

---jps

ggreen29

Don't these qualify?

Blue 350z

Very true, thanks for the backup.. Nice to see level headed mods here..

And somehow graphicguy thinks my timeslips are not mine or fake or somehting, not sure why.. I have about 10+ more timeslips scanned from diffrent dates too if your interested.. But I take it as a complement since he must think they are really good since he is trying to discredit them

http://www.geocities.com/azwhoopin22/TimeSlips.html

Also back to the innovation. I didn't get into this much but now if you really want to start this crap up again fine, you people can't get enough of me here, restarting treads, creating new ones just for me, I feel so loved :D So I guess I can't deny you a response

This is basically copied and pasted from Nissan's site.. These are some of the highlights on the Z

Traction Control System
Vehicle Dynamic Control
Viscous limited-slip differential
Carbon-fiber Composite Driveshaft
Front: independent multi-link
aluminum-alloy suspension
Rear: independent multi-link
aluminum-alloy suspension with
aluminum-alloy subframe
Front and rear stabilizer bars and strut bars
Power-assisted engine-speed-sensitive
rack-and-pinion steering
Tire Pressure Monitor System
Aluminum hood
High Intensity Discharge xenon headlights
Heated outside mirrors
Automatic Temperature Control
Tilt steering column with integrated gauges (Gauges move with steering wheel)
DVD Navigation
Analog Type Speedometer, Tachometer, Water Temperature, Oil pressure, Voltmeter, and Fuel Gauge
Shift Up Dual Digital Indicator Light
Drive Computer that includes Outside Air Temp., Distance-to-Empty, Avg. MPG, Avg. Speed, Speedometer, Stop Watch, Shift Up Indicator
Auto-dimming rearview mirror with compass, and HomeLink© Universal Transceiver
Heated seats
Radio Data System
AudioPilot™ noise-compensating technology
Head, front and side airbags
ABS brakes
Electronic Brakeforce Distribution
Brake Assist
Vehicle Immobilzer System (chip in key)
Micro-finishing on Crankshaft and Camshaft
Small Pitch, Silent Cam Chain
Electronic Drive-by-Wire Throttle
PowerSeats
Bose Stereo 7 Speakers and 10" Sub - 6 Disk CD Changer
Four-piston caliper brakes

Seems pretty innovative to me! Feel free to challange that list with stuff the RX-8 has

Lensman

Can't we just call this a day? It's a waste of electricity. The fact is that both cars are superb but they are different and have strengths and weaknesses. One is not better than the other unless you define specific tests such as 0-60 or passenger carrying capability. Arguing about this is just trying to assess who has the biggest dick when it's not size that counts but what you do with it!

Blue 350z

LOL.. Nicely put, I actually agree with you 100% - I had said what I wanted to say now anyway.. Probably not gonna post here anymore anyway since I have a bullseye on me because I drive a Z and I need my flamesuit on all the time..

ProtoConVert

I don't see what youre trying to say. There is no difference here except climate control, trip computer, and a radio data system. Any differences hardly amount to an advantage.

BTW, don't you have a carbon driveshaft on your Z, and not an aluminum? if you upgraded from stock, why did you upgrade to aluminum?

RX8-U-UP

in·no·va·tion [ ìnnə váy sh’n ] (plural in·no·va·tions)

noun

1. origination: the act or process of inventing or introducing something new


2. new idea or method: something newly invented or a new way of doing things

Nothing on your window sticker meets this definition. Keep trying, maybe you could print a few pages out of your owners manual.

Example: Nissan invented a method to duplicate another cars body style without being sued. Now that is innovative.

Emsdad

Droidekaus said that the materials on the door panels of the RX-8 are the same as the P5.

This is not true. I traded in a loaded '03 Vivid Yellow P5 for my 8 and I can tell you with confidence, that the materials of the 8 are much better than those of a p5.

I have nothing against the Z that Droid drives. I've always said that if the Z had four real seats, it would have been really, really, tough to make a decision between the two.

R32

If you're referring to the 350Z, I don't know what you're talking about. I recall reading an article where a sketch artist was brought in for an initial design of the new car.

He just drew 2 arcs. I don't know how, but those arcs won some art awards, but the 350z is based on those 2 arcs, and it's especially noticeable from the side profile.

ProtoConVert

I think he might be referring to the Audi TT... something of a watershed in auto design apparently. It's a poor example though because ALOT of cars have borrowed from its themes.

Genom

Dunno why, but I thought the 350z looked like a Porsche 911.

But I figured if I was gonna spend that kinda money on a car that looked like a Porsche, I might as well buy a Porsche (and yes, I understand the inherent flaw of that argument, but I didnt get either, so does it matter?)

Racer X-8

I'm kinda not following this thread, but having read this post, I just have to make this remark. This has nothing to do with you R32, you just wrote it, but,...this is the most incredibly assinine thing I have EVER read in the way of automotive deign! Some "artist" - of all things - draws two - count 'em - 2 - dos - snake eyes - duce - two fuggin -------------------- crooked LINES that, o my god, are not very straight, nor parallel; and they design the 350Z based on those 2 crukid pencil turds.

Well, no wonder..................

Racer X-8

And as far as Blue 350Z goes, it's "at what part in your anatomy has it replaced?" Do you think?
L.I.B!
M.R.Ducks!

Doh!

Flame-out!

R32

Yeah, so imagine my disbelief when I read the article. I wish I remembered what magazine it was so I could look it up, but my goodness, when I was 5 I could've drawn the same 2 arcs.

Does anyone remember the early 350z commercials? They used to show actual footage of the 2 arcs.

Regardless, I still like the RX-8's style anyway. :D