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Pinky1963 08-06-2010 07:54 PM

2011 Questions
 
I have done all my research and want to buy a 2011 RX 8. Why can't I find any pics of it, although I know Mazda says no changes from the 2010. The dealer says I can't order yet. Anyway, when will the 2011 actually be on the lot..and when can I order? Both dealers near me can't give me an answer ...WTH?. I would have bought a 2010 but none in Red were left. I am guessing about a 90 day delivery time?? I guess I won't be driving mine until Spring 2011.

jasonrxeight 08-06-2010 08:19 PM

are they gonna make the 2011?

yiksing 08-06-2010 08:24 PM

Yeah definitely wait for 2011 to get a Red one.

77mjd 08-06-2010 08:37 PM

Geez, do some searching and find a used '09 for dirt cheap. It's nowhere near worth it to buy an 8 new anymore. If I was Mazda I'd just shut the 8 down now. Not even worth it to go another year.

ArXate 08-06-2010 08:51 PM

If he can get $7000 off of MSRP on a new 2011, then it might be worth it.

Polish Person 08-06-2010 08:59 PM

They aren't going to change anything for 2011 according to my local dealer. Even the color choices aren't going to be any different, so you might as well just buy a 2010 for a lil off MSRP. Though the 2010's are the same as 2009's, and they're even cheaper. I got mine basically new for 6K less than a new one.

If you look around, you can find a red one. I'm surprised your dealer didn't offer to search other Mazda dealers for one. Mine did, back when I was shopping for a MS3.

Beefy98 08-06-2010 09:10 PM

Just get a 2010 they're all the same and the car's resale is dogshit anyway. I went for black just so the hideous plastic mustache and intakes for '09 would blend in better.

Renesis07 08-06-2010 09:43 PM

Wait until the 2011 comes out and troll for a new 2010 which will have a massive rebates. They just sold an 09 at a local dealer here for $8000 below MSRP. Yes 24,XXX for a NEW 2009 MT Grand Touring 8.

Be smart.

Jacob6875 08-07-2010 06:07 AM

Well to actually answer your question......... they should be getting to the dealer lots this fall at the latest..... if your local dealer didn't give up on the car. My local mazda dealer said they stopped selling new ones last year because the market was so small. They only sold 2-3 a year so they decided it wasnt worth it i guess.

If I were you tho I would do what the other people suggested and buy an 09 or 10 with 5-10k miles instead. It is basically a new rx8 and you save 10k.

mike1161 08-09-2010 06:54 AM

Yes, they are coming. Click this link for some info I had posted earlier about the 2011s:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...82#post3661082

Pinky1963 08-10-2010 09:58 PM

I took your advice and am picking up a 2010 red RX8 (got a good deal) in about two days. I have read all the FAQ's and stickys but have not found the answer to one question. I know it's not ideal to let it sit when I am away, but I'm not real comfortable with anyone nearby that I know starting it up and driving it while I'm gone due to them being stupid and causing a flooding issue. My question is, how long can it sit before starting is an issue? I am leaving for a week vacation in about month-right when it should start getting cold around here. I could ask my brother but I might come back to find my RX in a junk yard and him in jail.;)

jasonrxeight 08-10-2010 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by Pinky1963 (Post 3669418)
I took your advice and am picking up a 2010 red RX8 (got a good deal) in about two days. I have read all the FAQ's and stickys but have not found the answer to one question. I know it's not ideal to let it sit when I am away, but I'm not real comfortable with anyone nearby that I know starting it up and driving it while I'm gone due to them being stupid and causing a flooding issue. My question is, how long can it sit before starting is an issue? I am leaving for a week vacation in about month-right when it should start getting cold around here. I could ask my brother but I might come back to find my RX in a junk yard and him in jail.;)

if it just sits there will be no problem. just disconnect the battery.
flooding is when you start the car, then shut it off right after without warming up.

ArXate 08-11-2010 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by Pinky1963 (Post 3669418)
I took your advice and am picking up a 2010 red RX8 (got a good deal) in about two days. I have read all the FAQ's and stickys but have not found the answer to one question. I know it's not ideal to let it sit when I am away, but I'm not real comfortable with anyone nearby that I know starting it up and driving it while I'm gone due to them being stupid and causing a flooding issue. My question is, how long can it sit before starting is an issue? I am leaving for a week vacation in about month-right when it should start getting cold around here. I could ask my brother but I might come back to find my RX in a junk yard and him in jail.;)

Ok, why not tell us your deal? Break it all down here. I'm sure people would appreciate that.

Pinky1963 08-11-2010 08:59 AM

OK if you really want to know about the deal it is for around 4000 off sticker so I got a GT for around 29,000. It may not be the best deal but I really wanted this car and have been saving for a while to be able to put 4000 down on it. I also got a interest rate on the loan for right at 3% from shopping around which brings my payments to under 500 a month which is where I needed to be to afford this car. In addition since it is a second vehicle that I dont use for work (have company car that I don't have to pay gas insurance or any maintenence on) the insurance is less than 70 a month for pleasure vehicle with a good driving record. I really wanted the 2011 but this 2010 is a better deal for me. Maybe not the best deal, but good enough for me to be able to get this car. I am kinda freakin out reading about the little things you need to do, but I am getting great advice here from the Stickys and reading the posts. I am a girl not used to even changing my own oil, but I am feeling better about all this now, am actually learning a lot about rotary engines work. I never really gave a crap about how of my other cars worked-this is different. Thanks for eveyone's advice-scared of getting flamed here.

mbitterman 08-11-2010 09:34 AM

If you don't get flamed then you arn't having fun :flamed:
Also did you get a manual or the wimpy automatic?
Its good to see a new and hopefully active member:rock:

Tamas 08-11-2010 10:14 AM

If the car will only sit for a week, there won't be any problem with starting.
I just had my car sit for four weeks and it started up right away just like if it would have been driven every day. No need to disconnect the battery or for any other precaution.

jasonrxeight 08-11-2010 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Tamas (Post 3669737)
If the car will only sit for a week, there won't be any problem with starting.
I just had my car sit for four weeks and it started up right away just like if it would have been driven every day. No need to disconnect the battery or for any other precaution.

well the battery might be dead if you dont drive it for weeks.:suspect:

Tamas 08-11-2010 12:29 PM

As I said, I had no problem whatsoever after four weeks.

Mr.ThunderMakeR 08-11-2010 06:21 PM

I left mine sitting for 6 weeks with the battery disconnected and it started right up no problems. Also had Stabil in the fuel tank but that was probably unecessary.

hornbm 08-11-2010 06:41 PM

I still have my bets on them doing something different for 2011 as it will be the last year of the rx8. the did it for the last gen miata, protege, rx7...

Razz1 08-11-2010 06:50 PM

I let mine sit for a year and it started right up.

Renesis07 08-11-2010 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by Razz1 (Post 3670521)
I let mine sit for a year and it started right up.

kind of the same for me. Mine sat for about 7-8 months with zero anything. (it was at my brothers house and he didnt want me to start it bc the entire house would reek of gas from my midpipe) and my trans was blown so it wasnt going outside to start lol.

First time starting it was a bitch, not going to lie, It was acting flooded. However it had an 1/8 tank of 8 month old gas in it.

It did start eventually however ;)

jasonrxeight 08-11-2010 09:42 PM

before storing, fill up the tank and pour a bottle of seafoam. that should keep the gas fresh.

Pinky1963 08-12-2010 09:24 AM

Picking it up today, yep getting the wimpy automatic. For a girl who never knew how piston engine worked (or cared) this car and the engine fascinates me!! Maybe at some point I'll grow some lluevos and get a manuel. Still learning all I can about the rotary. I already picked up on something-pistons suck.

RIWWP 08-12-2010 09:31 AM

Not all pistons :)

I enjoy having pistons at the 4 corners helping me brake. I would scream in terror if I only had drums.

CTrx8 08-12-2010 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Pinky1963 (Post 3671086)
Picking it up today, yep getting the wimpy automatic. For a girl who never knew how piston engine worked (or cared) this car and the engine fascinates me!! Maybe at some point I'll grow some lluevos and get a manuel. Still learning all I can about the rotary. I already picked up on something-pistons suck.

Poor Manuel......never gets the girls.....:spank:

New Yorker 08-12-2010 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Tamas (Post 3669982)
As I said, I had no problem whatsoever after four weeks.

Same here. I live in NYC and get around by bike, bus or subway. So the 8 is just for fun on weekends. (You can afford this luxury if you don't have kids. :)) Anyway, I've had the car over 4 years and regularly don't drive it for weeks at a time. Always starts right up, no problem.

Polish Person 08-12-2010 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Pinky1963 (Post 3671086)
Picking it up today, yep getting the wimpy automatic. For a girl who never knew how piston engine worked (or cared) this car and the engine fascinates me!! Maybe at some point I'll grow some lluevos and get a manuel. Still learning all I can about the rotary. I already picked up on something-pistons suck.

Clarkson once said, "Paddles are annoying sometimes, but a clutch is annoying all the time." Around town, nothing beats an auto. Manual is nice for car control and racing, but the paddles in the auto will shift as fast as a stock manual.

leep133 08-12-2010 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 3671098)
Not all pistons :)

I enjoy having pistons at the 4 corners helping me brake. I would scream in terror if I only had drums.

LoL, best quote I've read in a long time

ZumnRx8 08-12-2010 04:41 PM

if you want a RED 09+... make sure you get an R3... with the prices they are going for now... how can you NOT get one.

Renesis07 08-12-2010 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by Polish Person (Post 3671489)
Clarkson once said, "Paddles are annoying sometimes, but a clutch is annoying all the time." Around town, nothing beats an auto. Manual is nice for car control and racing, but the paddles in the auto will shift as fast as a stock manual.

no disrespect to autos because I truly don't mind them, but they will not shift as fast as manual because they are a slushbox for lack of a better word. Meaning its not a true paddle shifter, it is an automatic and you can cycle through the gears on the wheel to give you a sport feeling, however it still shifts slow like any other regular auto.

DSG transmissions however....... lol....... are sick. Wish we had that kind of technology with our cars automatic trans.

ZumnRx8 08-12-2010 04:57 PM

+1, but i still love my auto.

Renesis07 08-12-2010 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by ZumnRx8 (Post 3671872)
+1, but i still love my auto.

Im not an auto-hater, I actually understand that people want different things from cars, any RX8 is good IMO :grouphug:

77mjd 08-12-2010 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by ZumnRx8 (Post 3671825)
if you want a RED 09+... make sure you get an R3... with the prices they are going for now... how can you NOT get one.

I agree 100%. It is completely foolish to buy an RX-8 new anymore. Even though you can get good discounts brand new, it's still nowhere near worth it with this car. I've already seen plenty of '09 R3s with less than 10k miles on them going for less than 25K.

Pinky1963 08-13-2010 10:59 AM

I got it! I sounded like Dave Chappelle evey time I accelerated saying DAM! I drove it home last night from about an hour away. It smelled really hot and if it was a new piston engine I would be concerned...should I be concerned with that smell in a rotary?

RIWWP 08-13-2010 11:03 AM

Can you define "smelled really hot"?

Not sure what you are getting at here.

Some smells are normal, some aren't.

Renesis07 08-13-2010 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Pinky1963 (Post 3672627)
I got it! I sounded like Dave Chappelle evey time I accelerated saying DAM! I drove it home last night from about an hour away. It smelled really hot and if it was a new piston engine I would be concerned...should I be concerned with that smell in a rotary?

I wouldnt be too concerned to be honest. Is the car new, if so burning plastic smells and stuff of that nature can be expected.

I always thought my car was running hot (literally, my hood prop would burn my hand if I grabbed it after a spirited drive), once I bought my dashhawk, my Coolant Temps have yet to exceed 205 degrees.

The engines just produce a lot of heat. And you can expect some moderate heat in your cupholders/center counsel from the trans and cat converter.

Pinky1963 08-13-2010 01:18 PM

I think it smelled like oil. That was after I drove it home at varying speeds for about an hour. Once I parked it and drove it again the smell was not too noticiable. I just waited so long and saved for this car, don't want to mess it up. The mechanic at the dealer came out to talk to me-said it sounded like I did my research. I told him yeah and he laughed and said "so you still want to get one?" Lots of little things to know about this car and I never heard of the smell before.

RIWWP 08-13-2010 01:21 PM

I guess most of us don't notice it :)

As long as you don't have an actual oil leak, then smelling oil is no alarm. The series 2 engine injects more oil than the series 1, both in volume and where, so it is natural. If it was extra heavy smell, it was probably a coating on engine/exhaust to help keep them clean for transport and presentation to customers, and it burns off with the heating up of the pipes.


Nothing to be concerned about.


Make a new thread and post pics! :)

New Yorker 08-13-2010 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by 77mjd (Post 3672188)
It is completely foolish to buy an RX-8 new anymore. Even though you can get good discounts brand new, it's still nowhere near worth it with this car. I've already seen plenty of '09 R3s with less than 10k miles on them going for less than 25K.

Considering how many owners tend to neglect or abuse their Renesis engines, you could consider the extra money for a new one as the price for peace of mind.

Renesis07 08-13-2010 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by New Yorker (Post 3672872)
Considering how many owners tend to neglect or abuse their Renesis engines, you could consider the extra money for a new one as the price for peace of mind.

Or get your own financing and buy one off here from a known member :p:

Pinky1963 08-14-2010 12:29 PM

I agree New Yorker. Once I started doing my research I realized I wanted to make sure I got one that was maintained the way I wanted it to be. So buying new only made sense. The extra cost was my peace of mind insurance. My friend just bought a used one with doing NO research at all. She never knew about the oil checking requirements or the reving while turning off thing. I told her, she says not true...I say whatever it's your RX8 engine that's being trashed.

Renesis07 08-14-2010 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Pinky1963 (Post 3673889)
I agree New Yorker. Once I started doing my research I realized I wanted to make sure I got one that was maintained the way I wanted it to be. So buying new only made sense. The extra cost was my peace of mind insurance. My friend just bought a used one with doing NO research at all. She never knew about the oil checking requirements or the reving while turning off thing. I told her, she says not true...I say whatever it's your RX8 engine that's being trashed.

Well lucky for the RX8 and her, the newer models dont have as much issues with flooding as the early builds. As far as topping off oil, tell her to read her owners manual. If she neglects it, again fortunately for her and the RX8, there's a low oil light that'll kick on while she's driving. It kicks on when the oil is just above the 'low' level on the dipstick. Hopefully she's smart enough to top it off then or else..... :scared:

Chibana 08-14-2010 01:50 PM

I notice a bit of that "hot" smell after driving mine a bit aggressively, too, especially in hot weather (and the fan stays on FOREVER after I pull it into the garage in the nasty 90 degree humid weather we've been having here). Seems normal for the car. Enjoy your RX-8! I love mine. I've wanted an RX-8 since they first came out.

Polish Person 08-26-2010 12:14 AM


Originally Posted by Renesis07 (Post 3671846)
no disrespect to autos because I truly don't mind them, but they will not shift as fast as manual because they are a slushbox for lack of a better word. Meaning its not a true paddle shifter, it is an automatic and you can cycle through the gears on the wheel to give you a sport feeling, however it still shifts slow like any other regular auto.

DSG transmissions however....... lol....... are sick. Wish we had that kind of technology with our cars automatic trans.

The DSG in the VW GTi almost swayed me to buy it over my RX8, especially with it being 4k cheaper.

But the faux-paddles in the RX8 aren't bad, though they laid them out weird. There is less of a delay than in other faux-paddled auto cars I've driven.

jaderain 08-27-2010 01:52 AM

Ok, nice job on picking the RX, you will love it! When I was young I lusted after the 280Z, and that was my first car, and then I got one for my second car too! The resale does go down drastically on this car, but as long as you are going to have it for awhile, who cares? It will be so damn nice having a newer one. Anyways, as an old fogie, let me just go ahead and say that you should really get a manual someday. Again, you will love the car you bought, but, you will be shocked at the level of driver involvement and connection you will feel with a manual transmission. And let me add, the RX's manual is one of the finest I have ever driven, just fantastic! So, enjoy! cheers. Jaderain

reaper1 08-27-2010 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Pinky1963 (Post 3671086)
Picking it up today, yep getting the wimpy automatic. For a girl who never knew how piston engine worked (or cared) this car and the engine fascinates me!! Maybe at some point I'll grow some lluevos and get a manuel. Still learning all I can about the rotary. I already picked up on something-pistons suck.

Manual or Automatic you got what you wanted thats all that matters . Enjoy ..... And I think you meant to say huevos not lluevos :o:

zoom44 08-27-2010 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Pinky1963 (Post 3672804)
I think it smelled like oil. That was after I drove it home at varying speeds for about an hour. Once I parked it and drove it again the smell was not too noticeable.

what you are probably smelling , since you got a brand new car, is the protective oil coating on the exhaust parts burning off. you shouldn't smell it any more by about 3k miles.

jasonrxeight 08-27-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Polish Person (Post 3671489)
Clarkson once said, "Paddles are annoying sometimes, but a clutch is annoying all the time." Around town, nothing beats an auto. Manual is nice for car control and racing, but the paddles in the auto will shift as fast as a stock manual.

no he said that when testing the new Lambo. as you know in UK the steering wheel is on the right side, so the foot rest pedal is at the center of the car which due to lambo's design probably very small so theres no place to rest your left foot. thats annoying all the time.

RX8 suffers the same problem too.
left hand drive
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1282924733

right hand drive
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1282924733

Beefy98 08-27-2010 12:22 PM

^^ I wonder how the gas pedal placement is on the RHD models esp. since there is no tranny/bell housing in the way.


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