nilestracing

I have a 2010 rx8 auto with 45000 miles yesterday we went out to go shopping and crank crank then a clank sounded bad, the engine just seemed to crank with no compression or signs of life at all. Had it towed into the dealership gave me a rental and said the 8 tech wont be in tell next thursday. Btw i seriously doubt its flooded been there done that.. This is the 7th time this year mazda has put me in a pos rental car over this lemon all from different issues none from starting until now! My question is how do i go about making mazda give me a new car or my money back i still owe 15k on something that stays at the dealership like a new car anyways. Btw it has always had premium gas oil changed every 2000 miles with added quarts every other 1000 lol

wcs

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This should be posted in the Series II Troubleshooting section, maybe?
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking.

The title implies you want some help with a no start issue .. but I think you want help with the lemon laws?

The lemon laws are different everywhere.
Where are you located?

Sounds like you're having shitty luck, unusual for a 2010

nilestracing

Located in louisville,ky oxmoor mazda has it, also on a side note hooked up the pocket scanner to it no codes. Bought the car for my wife's bday straight off the showroom floor had it rollbacked to the house. Drove it 200 miles low oil light came on on! Car never idles consistent always flutters mazda replaced all coils plugs several sensors at 15k the torque converter always yanks mazda cant duplicate go figure. Transmission gets stuck in 3rd wont up shift manually or by itself just holds gear was there over a month on that one got back still does it occasionally. It doesn't seem like that big of a deal to most but last time we caught the mazda tech driving the car in the rain and the car has never seen rain tell then. They told us the transmission issue was due to uneven wear on the tires at 35k replaced them no reason looked new expensive didn't help. ugh whats next im sure the timing belt or something broke thats my fault..

G_ man

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Take the car to a different dealer and have them look at it

wcs

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Holy crap
Dude it really sounds like you are getting hosed.

I don't know much about the lemon laws in your area, maybe someone else does.
You could try the sub forum for your geographic area maybe someone can help you out.

You know at least on the bright side ... the RX8 doesn't have a timing belt
So need to worry about that.

I see Ken-x8 in following this thread ... ken you know anything that can help this guy out?

nilestracing

Oh yea at 25k all four brakes and rotors were shot. Told them my 08 f250 went 80k on front 110k on rear always pulling big track loaders trailers i do construction you get the point. That **** was defective installed new greenstuff pads and rotors no dust no squeaks amazing. I find it funny that the truck that sees more off road than on run the **** out of it all over the country has never been to a dealer for any reason, but the the little mazda that couldn't, never sees rain abused or a hitch is always friggin broke!

G_ man

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Breaks and rotors are a wear item,that's all the driver. I don't want to get flogged here but you did say it's your wifes car. Is she the one taking the car into the dealer and getting things done or looked at. Just sayin,they see her coming and all they see is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

nilestracing

Yea she has to if it was me taking it in i would have already ended up in jail for pushing that hoopty right up the service managers *** lol. My dad had a 07 z71 well it used a quart of oil every oil change. At 20000 miles gm bought his truck back and gave him a brand new one free. Rx8 uses oil ohh thats the nature and you know they dont tell u that **** on the sticker when you buy it. All rx8's should have had a big red warning sticker that said bend over just sayin.

G_ man

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Yes nature of the beast when it comes to owning any car. You have to research
Funny,I joined the forum the same month and year you did,we both are contractors and have 2010 8's. The only difference is mines an R3 with 12k miles and you have a (Ford) ahahahahaha!.

Bladecutter

You are absolutely correct, it isn't that big of a deal, and you're making it out to be one. Your car isn't going to melt, dude.

If your engine broke, you're going to get a new one.
Heck, depending on the cause of the failure, the engine might have been in bad shape for a while, and with its replacement, your transmission issues might be fixed. There are some issues that the engine actually transmits into the transmission, making it seem like a transmission issue, when it really isn't.

As for lemon law, you're most likely going to be outside of just about every jurisdiction in the US for lemon law replacement. Most areas, you have to claim lemon law within the first 12 to 18 months of ownership. You're outside of that period, I'm betting.

Let them fix the car.
Once you have it back, sell it, and don't look back, since you're so unhappy with your wife's car.

Oh, and if you don't get a second opinion on things like brakes going out on a gently driven car in only 25k miles, you're throwing money away, because you're most likely being ripped off.

Besides, its a sports car, not a work truck, so brakes aren't going to last 80k miles, most of the time.

BC.

nilestracing

First off id like to say im sorry and good luck with that hope you have a ls1 transplant planned for the near future. Second Lol a ford and a mazda From 1979 to 2010, Mazda had a partnership with the Ford Motor Company, who acquired a 7% stake in 1979 and by 1996, owned 33.3% of Mazda. Under the administration of Alan Mulally, Ford gradually divested its stake in Mazda from 2008 to 2010, with Ford currently holding 3% of Mazda stock and severing production as well as development ties. So uh yea dumbarse u kinda own a ford 2! Also any day you wanna race my work truck in your r3 id love to you tube that (please add 3 turbo's and a directport nos and you may need a wing and some stickers first heard they add hp) wow really ?

Loki

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"They told us the transmission issue was due to uneven wear on the tires"

Start getting some second opinions, chief. For example, I can understand needing new tires at 35k, but this sounds unrelated. Diff problems, maybe, but the trans shouldn't see any effect in my mind. This isn't a 4x4.

Agreed, many dealers do a poor job of explaining the oil thing to people. The fact that you hit the oil light in the first 200 miles probably didn't help matters. The car must have been low on oil when it left the showroom, since 200 miles would use a very small amount of oil. You're not regularly hitting the oil light, are you?

G_ man

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Dude it was all for jokes haha get it,I drive a Dodge truck you drive a Ford truck you know good old truck humor. Have some laughs you'll live longer!!!!!

nilestracing

Ok yea sorry for the rant kinda came in lookin for someone else that had similiar problems from theyre 10 and got flared for what i drive. The r3 thing tried to buy one she couldnt drive a 6 spd and they didnt make a auto in them, so got the other had leather installed. My race truck is a 05 cummins all forged steel pistons fully race prepped a4k over a8k compounds so i like dodge also lol on the tire issue it had factory goodyears and had to admit they kinda looked shady not bald or showing belts though. They claimed bc we didnt have them rotated that they were wore uneven and that messed with the vss and was known to cuase erratic shifting. And id love to sell the little car, i tried to buy her a srt4 neon at the time auto thing go figure, but she loves it decpite the problems

G_ man

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It's all good no worries,make sure you get a second opinion on your 8 and please post your findings to help out other s2 owners. Good luck!!!!!
Glen

nilestracing

Got rx8 back today, mazda replaced sparkplugs 1 coil cam position sensor and ran decarbon process whatever that was, compression test came back within specs. Asked them about transmission issue they changed subject. so i guess that was, we got the shitbox runnin come get it lol.

Loki

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So does it run well now?
The replacements make a certain amount of sense, coils are a wear item, I'm surprises they didnt change them earlier. These cars have no cam or cam position sensor though, was it the eccentric shaft position sensor?
Why did you let them change the subject?

Andersonracing

Sounds like your getting hosed!

I dont own an RX-8 but ive worked on a few hundred transmissions and diagnosed "trans" problems that dont even involve the tranny. IMO with everything youve said going wrong it almost seems like a faulty computer or wiring harness. I know that car companies when manufacturing wiring harness' they only take a sample to quality check.

KB1978

Sounds like Mazda did alot of work on your 10 for it to have issues still...second opinion is def a must. All the research in the world couldn't have prepared you for all those problems. Wishing the best..don't give up on the 8 though...gas gusseler and oil sucker but if you get a functioning one, it is worth it..

best of luck

Bladecutter

Only 1 coil was replaced?
If it were my car, since it already has 45k miles on it, I would replace the other three ignition coils, plus all the spark plug wires, so that you would have a fully freshened ignition system.

Heck, my money is where my mouth is, in this case.
When my car hit the 20k mile mark, I replaced all 4 coils, wires, and plugs, even though none had failed yet. I plan on doing this every 20k miles, to prevent the situation you just went through, and any impending ignition related issues in the future.

BC.

nilestracing

Its says in short i cant scan the invoice. Says found code p0336 replaced ckp sensor. Found intermitent starting problem replaced coil 1 leading rotor 1 did decarbon process replaced sparkplugs yata yata yata changed oil total charge 22.35. I cant complain i mean that sounds like a lotta crap that i didnt have to payfor. I asked about the sparkplugs they said they replace them there as a policy with the decarb

PeteInLongBeach

This post makes me wonder what this car has been through, or how accurate any of this is. My 2009 has 65,000 miles on it - the brake pads are about half worn and the rotors are like new. I've never seen any posts on here describing the excessive brake wear depicted above.

Something isn't adding up here...

nilestracing

Well it hasnt been through much of anything.. Girl drivin it no hitch i mean never street raced its a auto all highway never even had a k+n airfilter what do u wanna know?

PeteInLongBeach

"All highway" and the brakes were all shot at 25,000 miles? I do mostly highway, and at 65,000 miles the brakes are still fine. Is someone riding the brake on your car? I can't imagine any other explanation given your described scenario...

Jims5543

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When I was bleeding the brakes on my R3 a couple of months ago, I noticed the pads are getting low @ 17K miles on the car.

I was pretty surprised by that. My FJ Cruiser went 70K miles on OEM pads. Then I realized, the RX8 is a sports car, most likely has softer compound pads for better bite and they will wear faster.

Since I purchased the car with 16K miles on it and know for a fact the PO did not track or autocross it, I too wondered how the hell could pads wear so fast. The PO told me he only had a 3 mile commute to work and that was all the car was used for, so I can only assume he did a lot of stop and go driving.

Needless to say, I picked up a set of new pads and I am installing them this weekend. Then I can monitor how long they last myself. We plan on Autocrossing it a lot this year so I am not expecting much.