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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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09 Manual Trans into an 06?

Ok I did a bit of searching but didn't come up with anything,
Does anyone know if an 09 manual transmission fits into an 06 car? is it a direct swap? or some minor mods needed?

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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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Direct swap.

Highly recommended for many reasons.

The only negative I am aware of (if you want to even bother calling it a negative) is that you can no longer fill the transmission fluid through the shifter, which made the S1 fluid changes a breeze.

Other than that, you get an all-around improved transmission with better gearing (increased acceleration 1-5, lower cruise rev in 6th) and it's more durable to boot.
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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Yes, it fits.
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 05:02 PM
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It's at your local grocery store, or the nearby gas station.

Just tell them that your friend from 2,000 miles away already paid for it. I'm sure they would understand.
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
It's at your local grocery store, or the nearby gas station.

Just tell them that your friend from 2,000 miles away already paid for it. I'm sure they would understand.

I doubt it, the girl at my local convenience store acts like someone ***** in her corn flakes each and every morning.
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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someone said that to me this morning is that the saying of the day?
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 05:53 PM
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Don't forget though a whole swath of the new 09 transmissions developed problems with 5th and 6th gear and had to be replaced...
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
Direct swap.


The only negative I am aware of (if you want to even bother calling it a negative) is that you can no longer fill the transmission fluid through the shifter, which made the S1 fluid changes a breeze.
Wish I knew this last week.... Just finished changing it and I had to use this pump thing to get the fluid in. Kind of annoying
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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Yeah, it is. Far easier to just undo the center console shielding, remove the 4 screws, pull out the shifter, pour in 2 quarts. Replace items.

Can't do that with the diff though
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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I hate the clips on the screws that holds the rubber down. Almost makes me enjoy lifting the car to drain, the ol' fashioned way...
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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I was doing them both at the same time. O well. Too late now. Great news though for 60,000 miles or so down the road!
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Wallets
someone said that to me this morning is that the saying of the day?

Did i miss anything? I don't get it...lol
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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Thanks for the input guys!
I have been doing my trans oil changes at a local dealer "tech day", they let us use their lifts for an afternoon, those guys are awesome.
so trans oil changes have been a breeze for me, I've been doing them once a year.
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:11 PM
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Once a year? How much do you drive it a year? That just seems like overkill.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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Once a year? How much do you drive it a year? That just seems like overkill.
It was overkill, but I figured I'm beating on it at the track and it would help the synchro issue i'm having.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 04:06 PM
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In that case, check out this post:

(https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-racing-25/rst-performance-racings-new-scca-itr-rx8-217872/)

Originally Posted by EricMeyer
Dump the trans. Run it anyway. That piece of **** will last two weekends if you baby it. Put a rental driver in it and it will last one weekend. We use to run two per car per weekend in Grand-Am. Cheat. This trans design is totally flawed. We would do serious repairs after each weekend. Always the 3/4 synchro. The 3/4 shift fork is the weak link and there is no fix. Trust me. Lobby to get the new trans or just run it. It is near bulletproof. The input shaft is about 50% smaller but the thing is like a rock. At one point I owned 7 pre-09 transmissions. The new one will pay for itself in one season PLUS you'll have to baby yours and I don't know about you-----do you baby stuff when your racing for or defending the lead?
Doesn't sound like you are racing, but should help your decision making on that 09 transmission.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
In that case, check out this post:

(https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=217872)



Doesn't sound like you are racing, but should help your decision making on that 09 transmission.
The new tranny is really that much better? I wonder how it would be in 20b applications. Does anyone know if someone has tried it or has any info on it?
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 05:17 PM
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The 20b guys go with an FD transmission, which is stronger than either RX-8 transmission.

The strength Eric is talking about isn't HP/TQ strength, but internal component strength. Shift forks, syncros, etc...

Basically the things most likely to get screwed up by someone using a shifting technique that is hard on the transmission. Has nothing to do with power.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
The 20b guys go with an FD transmission, which is stronger than either RX-8 transmission.

The strength Eric is talking about isn't HP/TQ strength, but internal component strength. Shift forks, syncros, etc...

Basically the things most likely to get screwed up by someone using a shifting technique that is hard on the transmission. Has nothing to do with power.
Ok that makes sense. I knew most went with the FD transmission unless they were putting down a lot of power then they are usually switching to the t56 (viper or vette one). It would have just been nice if there was an alternative to having to get the t56. I've always been curious how that transmission feels in our cars since the driving experience is completely different in those muscle cars than ours.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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Anybody making serious HP/Torque ever fitted the 09 trans ?
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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More than OD's S/C? Though Eric's NA isn't much farther back in power, and quite a bit harder on the transmission.

I don't know about any of the other boosted guys. The 20b swaps haven't (can't?) that I have seen.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 05:46 PM
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Just to clarify... its not really a "direct swap" because the connectors for the neutral and reverse switches are different.
So you'll need to install new connectors/terminals to get this to work.

I did this swap a few months ago on a local's car and just used quick disconnect terminals.
To make sure I didn't cross my wires between switches, I put male ends on one switch and females on the other.
If I had more time to prepare, I would have bought a better weather-proof connector and installed pins.
But so far its been holding up just fine.

And its bulkier... so its more difficult to reach up the side of the tranny to reach the slave cylinder.
So its best to install that while the tranny is a low as possible, then lift it the rest of the way up.

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Cool, thanks for that bit of info
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