with $1300, what should i buy??
05-01-2009, 06:12 PM
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You sir are an idiot. I'm sorry, I'm usually not one to call people names but there is no other way to explain your sheer ignorance on this subject.
The RX-8 is a "stupid choice" for a track car?! Are you mad?
Is that why the R3 has upgraded suspension? so people can have a better grocery getter? NO. Mazda knows what a great track car this can be and is trying to IMPROVE on it. (much as many others are with aftermarket parts)
Why don't you send a PM to ULLOSE and tell him how horrible our cars are on the track.
FYI: He's the reigning 3 time National AutoCross Champion.... guess what he drives.
The RX-8 is a "stupid choice" for a track car?! Are you mad?
Is that why the R3 has upgraded suspension? so people can have a better grocery getter? NO. Mazda knows what a great track car this can be and is trying to IMPROVE on it. (much as many others are with aftermarket parts)
Why don't you send a PM to ULLOSE and tell him how horrible our cars are on the track.
FYI: He's the reigning 3 time National AutoCross Champion.... guess what he drives.
Interesting how I don't name call, yet I am frequently name called by the same croud who claims I am immature, close minded and ingorant...
05-01-2009, 07:40 PM
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haha. Yes, for a TRACK ONLY car, the rx8 is not wise. for the money you can get something that probably isn't even street legal or at least something that comes stock which is must faster than the 8 anyway, without all the cool stuff which makes the 8 great on the road. And the r3 is not a track only car. You are confusing what i mean by track only with a car that would be good for both road and track. Rx8 stock is good for both, but not a good choice for track only. oh and btw autocross is a joke, who cares about autocross. I have done several and it was the lamest thing ever.
05-01-2009, 08:02 PM
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05-02-2009, 01:57 AM
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if you do the cobb AP you need to do the midpipe too!! running proper AFRs and a cat doesn't mix well, plus the midpipe adds more horsepowerz :p !! cobb AP and midpipe go together like cocaine and waffles
05-02-2009, 02:51 AM
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i really don't understand what makes you all high and mighty?
as you can see you are in a very small minority, and why cant you just admit that you have things wrong, and understand what people are trying to say. i only hope you don't think that only your opinions matters, cause thats a joke.
05-02-2009, 02:09 PM
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i really don't understand what makes you all high and mighty?
as you can see you are in a very small minority, and why cant you just admit that you have things wrong, and understand what people are trying to say. i only hope you don't think that only your opinions matters, cause thats a joke.
as you can see you are in a very small minority, and why cant you just admit that you have things wrong, and understand what people are trying to say. i only hope you don't think that only your opinions matters, cause thats a joke.
"but genesis, we have more people on our side, so you must be wrong..blah bl;ah"
05-02-2009, 02:13 PM
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05-02-2009, 02:20 PM
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Power!!
My. $0.02 is get the racing beat springs and Swaybars with the Tokico D-spec shocks for suspension, and the Cobb AP with Mazdamaniac tune and BHR midpipe for Power mods.
www.racingbeat.com
www.mazdamaniac.com
PM charles R. Hill for midpipe info.
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PM charles R. Hill for midpipe info.
05-02-2009, 03:14 PM
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05-02-2009, 03:26 PM
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Power!!
My issue is you passing off incorrect information and half truths to try and prove you're point that modding your car doesn't improve performance. The Motor trend link is the first piece of legit information you've shared on this thread. And all it proves is that 4 years ago when that article came out that one company started modding the suspension made some mistakes. Lucky for us they and other companies learned from those experiences and have come up with some great systems since then.
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It's all personal preference. Some people want to mod their cars and some don't. That's not my issue with you.
My issue is you passing off incorrect information and half truths to try and prove you're point that modding your car doesn't improve performance. The Motor trend link is the first piece of legit information you've shared on this thread. And all it proves is that 4 years ago when that article came out that one company started modding the suspension made some mistakes. Lucky for us they and other companies learned from those experiences and have come up with some great systems since then.
My issue is you passing off incorrect information and half truths to try and prove you're point that modding your car doesn't improve performance. The Motor trend link is the first piece of legit information you've shared on this thread. And all it proves is that 4 years ago when that article came out that one company started modding the suspension made some mistakes. Lucky for us they and other companies learned from those experiences and have come up with some great systems since then.
Is there any literature which would support an increase in performance due to aftermarket modifications? (besides improved 1/4 mile time with a TURBO..cuz ya obviously) This isn't meant to be rhetorical, I am actually curious.
05-02-2009, 03:59 PM
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Petit actually responded to this right after the article came out, I guess they took it off their site though since I can't find it anymore.
It says an increase of 30-50 hp with the kits... that alone should tell you how severely outdated this article is.
All this article proves is the 8 has come a long way since 2004.
Let's get back to 2009. Thanks
05-02-2009, 05:14 PM
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Power!!
www.racingbeat.com
They also have a great tech tips section on what to do and what not to do to your rotary powered vehicle.
You can also check out Mazda Maniac's car featured in Modified magazine.
http://www.modified.com/features/mod...ing/index.html
Also here is my dyno chart from my tuning session with MazdaManiac with my cobb Accessport.
Also check out my spring thread (linked in my sig). Where I learned first hand what "not to buy" for springs and how to determine a good spring setup and alignment. Eric Meyer from Eric Meyer Racing (Koni Challenge ST class) gave us an online suspension tuning class in my thread.
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05-02-2009, 05:30 PM
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Oh god... he's like UK Mazda saying that the engine doesn't have a problem, therefore there isn't any 8 year/100 000 miles warranty on the engine.
Obviously, as I can see Genesis, you do not have any knowledge on aftermarket modifications. I don't know what world you are living, but most suspension mods don't COST that much just to make the car a bit better. Remember, everyone has their own opinion on everything and don't have the same taste or interest as you do.
Your problem is that your head is in the sand and your opinion is full of ignorance. I can tell by the way you post is that you do not know the most effecient and most cost effective (not saying they are the best mods) aftermarket parts. Yes I do agree that a car should remain nearly stock, except for a couple of factors. Usually the whole point to get aftermarket parts is to make the car better from it's shortcomings... Like, there isn't much power in the rx-8, so people then go catless and get an aftermarket exhaust to gain about 10-15 whp on AVERAGE.
THE OP asked for help on parts, not ways to save money to put in the bank.
Also one big mistake you have just said: A lightweight flywheel would be pretty cool, like a MAZADSPEED flywheel, but it costs alot.
WTF?! The MS flywheel is exactly 2 pounds lighter, how is that LIGHTWEIGHT? Now if you said the BHR flywheel, it would make much more sense. Point Proven, there you go and you can't say anything else based on my posts.
But one thing I agree with you on is that picture... It's not hideous, but it isn't my taste.
I'm not hating on you, but trying to show your shortcomings and ignorance so that you can be helped
Obviously, as I can see Genesis, you do not have any knowledge on aftermarket modifications. I don't know what world you are living, but most suspension mods don't COST that much just to make the car a bit better. Remember, everyone has their own opinion on everything and don't have the same taste or interest as you do.
Your problem is that your head is in the sand and your opinion is full of ignorance. I can tell by the way you post is that you do not know the most effecient and most cost effective (not saying they are the best mods) aftermarket parts. Yes I do agree that a car should remain nearly stock, except for a couple of factors. Usually the whole point to get aftermarket parts is to make the car better from it's shortcomings... Like, there isn't much power in the rx-8, so people then go catless and get an aftermarket exhaust to gain about 10-15 whp on AVERAGE.
THE OP asked for help on parts, not ways to save money to put in the bank.
Also one big mistake you have just said: A lightweight flywheel would be pretty cool, like a MAZADSPEED flywheel, but it costs alot.
WTF?! The MS flywheel is exactly 2 pounds lighter, how is that LIGHTWEIGHT? Now if you said the BHR flywheel, it would make much more sense. Point Proven, there you go and you can't say anything else based on my posts.
But one thing I agree with you on is that picture... It's not hideous, but it isn't my taste.
I'm not hating on you, but trying to show your shortcomings and ignorance so that you can be helped
05-03-2009, 12:11 PM
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I would check out Racing Beat's site. They have some good data and analysis on their suspension upgrade. Also they have good background on their testing methods if you want to dig in to it more.
www.racingbeat.com
They also have a great tech tips section on what to do and what not to do to your rotary powered vehicle.
You can also check out Mazda Maniac's car featured in Modified magazine.
http://www.modified.com/features/mod...ing/index.html
Also here is my dyno chart from my tuning session with MazdaManiac with my cobb Accessport.
DYNO CHART HERE
Also check out my spring thread (linked in my sig). Where I learned first hand what "not to buy" for springs and how to determine a good spring setup and alignment. Eric Meyer from Eric Meyer Racing (Koni Challenge ST class) gave us an online suspension tuning class in my thread.
www.racingbeat.com
They also have a great tech tips section on what to do and what not to do to your rotary powered vehicle.
You can also check out Mazda Maniac's car featured in Modified magazine.
http://www.modified.com/features/mod...ing/index.html
Also here is my dyno chart from my tuning session with MazdaManiac with my cobb Accessport.
DYNO CHART HERE
Also check out my spring thread (linked in my sig). Where I learned first hand what "not to buy" for springs and how to determine a good spring setup and alignment. Eric Meyer from Eric Meyer Racing (Koni Challenge ST class) gave us an online suspension tuning class in my thread.
correct me if I'm wrong, but both before and after were done with an OEM cat?