Oil Filter Relocation Kits!
08-26-2012, 10:08 PM
#26
weeeeeeeeee
iTrader: (12)
strike two on attempts to install this kit. I'm fitting it over my RB sandwich plate and at one particular corner (the narrowest of course) no matter how hard I torque the damn remote sender I get a gusher.
First time a couple weeks ago was a bust.
Tried again tonight after licking my wounds sufficiently (bought one of those double jointed adjustable oil filter wrench thingys) ... thought for sure I'd torqued it down sufficiently, fired up and gawd damnit, gush again.
I have a couple thoughts ... pulling the RB plate and drilling three sender holes in the remote sender (I have oil for turbo, oil temp sensor, and oil pressure sensor there now) and torquing it down directly to the mazda plate... use an OEM filter gasket with some tacky glue to hold it in place -- the RR remote sender's built in gasket is about 3-4mm longer in diameter than an OEM filter's gasket.... remove my UIM and torque the MF down like there's no tomorrow.
Anyone else run into this type of problem -- particularly with the RB plate already in place?
Not a happy camper.
First time a couple weeks ago was a bust.
Tried again tonight after licking my wounds sufficiently (bought one of those double jointed adjustable oil filter wrench thingys) ... thought for sure I'd torqued it down sufficiently, fired up and gawd damnit, gush again.
I have a couple thoughts ... pulling the RB plate and drilling three sender holes in the remote sender (I have oil for turbo, oil temp sensor, and oil pressure sensor there now) and torquing it down directly to the mazda plate... use an OEM filter gasket with some tacky glue to hold it in place -- the RR remote sender's built in gasket is about 3-4mm longer in diameter than an OEM filter's gasket.... remove my UIM and torque the MF down like there's no tomorrow.
Anyone else run into this type of problem -- particularly with the RB plate already in place?
Not a happy camper.
08-27-2012, 06:18 AM
#27
strike two on attempts to install this kit. I'm fitting it over my RB sandwich plate and at one particular corner (the narrowest of course) no matter how hard I torque the damn remote sender I get a gusher.
First time a couple weeks ago was a bust.
Tried again tonight after licking my wounds sufficiently (bought one of those double jointed adjustable oil filter wrench thingys) ... thought for sure I'd torqued it down sufficiently, fired up and gawd damnit, gush again.
I have a couple thoughts ... pulling the RB plate and drilling three sender holes in the remote sender (I have oil for turbo, oil temp sensor, and oil pressure sensor there now) and torquing it down directly to the mazda plate... use an OEM filter gasket with some tacky glue to hold it in place -- the RR remote sender's built in gasket is about 3-4mm longer in diameter than an OEM filter's gasket.... remove my UIM and torque the MF down like there's no tomorrow.
Anyone else run into this type of problem -- particularly with the RB plate already in place?
Not a happy camper.
First time a couple weeks ago was a bust.
Tried again tonight after licking my wounds sufficiently (bought one of those double jointed adjustable oil filter wrench thingys) ... thought for sure I'd torqued it down sufficiently, fired up and gawd damnit, gush again.
I have a couple thoughts ... pulling the RB plate and drilling three sender holes in the remote sender (I have oil for turbo, oil temp sensor, and oil pressure sensor there now) and torquing it down directly to the mazda plate... use an OEM filter gasket with some tacky glue to hold it in place -- the RR remote sender's built in gasket is about 3-4mm longer in diameter than an OEM filter's gasket.... remove my UIM and torque the MF down like there's no tomorrow.
Anyone else run into this type of problem -- particularly with the RB plate already in place?
Not a happy camper.
I'm still considering buying the kit.
Soooo ummm ya, I like the idea of tapping new holes in to the sender plate.
Especially cause I got's a machine shop nice a close by, and the owner is a friend I went to school with back in the day.
08-27-2012, 08:27 PM
#30
weeeeeeeeee
iTrader: (12)
I'll see what I can do. Will track down a picture of the RB plate and mark the spot where it leaks. If the remote sender's gasket was a mere 3-4mm shorter in diameter I'm certain it wouldn't be a problem at all.
Also Brice, the remote sender (and the AN fittings) are fairly scuffed up at this point. I'd actually be embarrassed to post pictures of them.
To do this job "right", you really do need to remove the UIM... at least with the RB plate.
Also Brice, the remote sender (and the AN fittings) are fairly scuffed up at this point. I'd actually be embarrassed to post pictures of them.
To do this job "right", you really do need to remove the UIM... at least with the RB plate.
08-28-2012, 10:14 AM
#33
weeeeeeeeee
iTrader: (12)
thanks HiFlite999 ... I'm in no hurry for the install at this point. I may just go the custom machining route on the RR sender as I suspect there's sufficient coverage on the OEM plate for it... otherwise I think Brice would be hearing about this more often.
Just as frustrating as the leak is the visible "damage" (scratches, scuffs, etc) that have happened on the RR kit repeatedly installing and uninstalling it.
Just as frustrating as the leak is the visible "damage" (scratches, scuffs, etc) that have happened on the RR kit repeatedly installing and uninstalling it.
08-28-2012, 12:15 PM
#34
It understandable on posting pics. I am assuming it is not making a sufficient seal because of the lack of space at that portion. My suggestion would be use a RED RTV sealant and see if that helps. I will say removing the UIM will be a huge help, and you are correct I had only installed this kit on the prosport adapters before so this would be a first with the RB plate.
08-28-2012, 12:37 PM
#35
weeeeeeeeee
iTrader: (12)
ya know, RTV on the inside of the gasket would very likely solve the problem. I just might try that with the UIM off for my 3rd attempt ... just need to build up the courage to try this a third time.
09-17-2012, 07:03 PM
#36
weeeeeeeeee
iTrader: (12)
So this is a complete bust with the RB sender, Brice.
The problem is that the adapter nut that mounts up with the RB sender center threads hits the RB's center nut. No amount of RTV or torque is going to solve this.
A shaved adapter or one that is about 2-3mm shorter would do the trick. Please advise on next steps.
Shell
The problem is that the adapter nut that mounts up with the RB sender center threads hits the RB's center nut. No amount of RTV or torque is going to solve this.
A shaved adapter or one that is about 2-3mm shorter would do the trick. Please advise on next steps.
Shell
09-23-2012, 08:41 PM
#39
weeeeeeeeee
iTrader: (12)
Brice, as requested via PM, I have forwarded you the following pictures identifying the incompatibility between your relocation kit and the RB sandwich plate.
Please advise,
Shell
Please advise,
Shell
09-23-2012, 08:53 PM
#40
You're describing an incompatibility with his product and another companies aftermarket product, they are not made to work together. The relocation kit works with the stock oil filter neck, simple as that, what do you expect Brice to do?
Why don't you go to Racing Beat and complain that their Oil sandwich plate doesn't work with Raceroots relocation kit and see what kind of response you get.
Why don't you go to Racing Beat and complain that their Oil sandwich plate doesn't work with Raceroots relocation kit and see what kind of response you get.
09-23-2012, 08:59 PM
#41
You're describing an incompatibility with his product and another companies aftermarket product, they are not made to work together. The relocation kit works with the stock oil filter neck, simple as that, what do you expect Brice to do?
Why don't you go to Racing Beat and complain that their Oil sandwich plate doesn't work with Raceroots relocation kit and see what kind of response you get.
Why don't you go to Racing Beat and complain that their Oil sandwich plate doesn't work with Raceroots relocation kit and see what kind of response you get.
damn guy chill out. All shell is doing is telling RR that they could make a slight modification to their system to make it even more marketable to others.
A shaved adapter or one that is about 2-3mm shorter would do the trick. Please advise on next steps
09-23-2012, 09:00 PM
#42
weeeeeeeeee
iTrader: (12)
Perhaps you missed the part where it was indicated to me that it wouldn't be a problem before I made the purchase. Settle down there fanboi. I'm looking forward to getting this resolved and providing a solution for others thinking of trying to do the same.
09-23-2012, 09:04 PM
#43
ShellDude you should msg this guy RX8Club.com - View Profile: Z0oMzo0m
I do believe he had both of them installed last time I looked at his ride.
I do believe he had both of them installed last time I looked at his ride.
09-23-2012, 09:08 PM
#45
I just don't see a reason for you to be posting here complaining about Raceroots product, when there's really no reason to.
Quit crying about it.
I'm far from a fanboy of anyone, like I said why don't you go to Racing Beat and complain that their product doesn't work with Raceroots relocation kit. Your logic is completely backwards.
If you want them to work together about 2min with a grinder/dremel would solve your problem.
Last edited by kma5783; 09-23-2012 at 09:39 PM.
09-23-2012, 09:13 PM
#46
weeeeeeeeee
iTrader: (12)
If you want them to work together about 2min with a grinder/dremel would solve your problem.
That was a bit more of an investment than what I originally signed up for. Do you have anything else constructive to add or are you just gonna keep ragging on me with stupid insults and unnecessary insinuations?
09-23-2012, 09:20 PM
#47
I have not ragged on you or insulted you in anyway.
It's a simple fix, if you can't fix it yourself just give Brice a chance to respond via PM.
Why do you need the RB Plate anyway?
There's two 1/8"NPT ports in the filter end of the relocation kit for gauge senders.
It's a simple fix, if you can't fix it yourself just give Brice a chance to respond via PM.
Why do you need the RB Plate anyway?
There's two 1/8"NPT ports in the filter end of the relocation kit for gauge senders.
09-23-2012, 09:27 PM
#48
weeeeeeeeee
iTrader: (12)
I'm sure he will respond via PM. I'm sure he'll respond here in the thread too. Not sure what your point is? Open -- transparent -- communication is a good thing.
I thought about using the two remote ports ... problem there is I need 3 and they all end up routed up near the original oil filter location anyway.
Have also considered milling the RR sandwich plate too.
Lots of options -- none of which involve plug-n-play.
I thought about using the two remote ports ... problem there is I need 3 and they all end up routed up near the original oil filter location anyway.
Have also considered milling the RR sandwich plate too.
Lots of options -- none of which involve plug-n-play.
09-23-2012, 09:42 PM
#49
I'm assuming the third port is for your oil feed line, you may want to consider using something like this as it would allow you to feed filtered oil to your turbo.
Russell Performance 670360 - Russell AN Flare Unions and Caps - Overview - SummitRacing.com
Russell Performance 670360 - Russell AN Flare Unions and Caps - Overview - SummitRacing.com
