DropTheHammer

yea i am thinkn of tradn my 05 sti for a loaded 05 rx8,, dealer said he will give me a deal on a 05 i am going to test drive one on friday, said he will take a loss but not a big one i wonder what that means,, the car has zero miles, he said the dealer bought them cars from mazda so the dealer owns them.. any way any thoughts?

Ike

Something fishy about this one... Everyone knows people don't trade STIs for RX-8s, they trade RX-8s for STIs Cas, Crossfire, streetracing?

DropTheHammer

nuttn fishy here, i have a mustang sittn in my garage im going to use for racing, i had a rsx typr s and i miss the sporty inside and the way it hanfdled(not stock)and the 8 seems to be a sporty car inside and out and i think it looks better then the sti , and might be cheeper 2 insure.

geeko.o

Welcome to the RX8 Rotary world

dmorales

Definitley cheaper to insure. It counts as a four door car with a four cylinder. Plus no turbo to raise price either.

I was 18 when I bought mine and my insurance went down when I got it. And I was driving a v6 full size truck at the time!
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DropTheHammer

thank you, but i have still yet 2 test drive it, i will tomorrow before any final choice is made.. and my old rsx type s wasnt powerful 200hp and that car was funnnnn to drive, the sti isnt a great handling car at all, and it isnt sexy at all lol,, the 8 umm yea sexy it just looks sporty.


and yes insurance being lower is going to be a plus.a big plus lol

ucfracerx8

I too considered an STi when I got my 8 and as far as the insurance goes, believe it or not, the STi was actually cheaper than the 8 with my company, granted it was only $10 every 6 months but I was floored since I figured it would be more than the WRX I was getting out of. Incidently, both the 8 and STi were cheaper than the WRX.

DropTheHammer

sti cheaper wow thats weird,, so u have a 8 now and had a wrx? what r the ups and dwons or this change?

Pkskull77

I had an 8, and I now have the STI, and I can tell you if performance is your thing that’s a very bad move. Handling and breaking are almost dead even, acceleration clearly goes to the STI. In other words if you go to the track, the STI is a winner, and if you’re a street racer the STI is a winner.

Aside from making the argument that the RX-8 is better looking (and please don’t start another one of those threads), I can’t see why you would make this move. As daily drivers I found the STI to be a better car, better on gas, and better in bad weather. The ride is a little stiff, but so is the 8’s. The STI has a ton more cargo room and normal doors in the back.

My advice would be to wait until Mazda ups the power, or the aftermarket becomes a little better for the 8. Otherwise you’re probably going to end up kicking yourself.

Pkskull77

You have no idea what your talking about. They handle differently, but a well driven STI should walk a well driven 8 on a road course. As far as sex appeal goes, well that’s subjective, so I won't argue with you.

I do not believe that you actually own an STI; I think you’re just trying to stir up trouble.

DropTheHammer

wow u people think every thing is a lie, i have owned a 03rsx traded that in for a 04 f150 traded that in for a 05 sti now want a 8, and own a 05 r6, and a 90 stang gt.. tradin in a sporty car 4 something not so sporty (truck) and goin from a sti(coveted in the import scene) to a 8 isnt out of the picture 4 me.. so yea im on here 2 get info on this car.. and since i own 1 i can tell you they dont handle that great

DropTheHammer

sorry 2 sound rude but the car is sittn in my garage

Pkskull77

I have owned both, and I can tell you that your wrong. You either don't know how to drive, or your running around on bald tires. Open up any mag and look at the stats, they are close but they always lean in the direction of the STI. Before you flame, I know those tests are not as scientific as they should be, but they are as close to objective as we are going to get here.

DropTheHammer

lol driving skills is not in question, like i said i will drive the 8 tomorrow, and comparing my sti 2 my rsx type s.. moded suspension and rims doesnt compare , i want a car that is mor efun goin in and out of traffic and on the s turns and im not gettn the great feel from the sti.. i never road course any car before but did manage to 1/4 my stock sti at 13.1 which isnt 2 bad of driving. maybe im just explaining m,y self wrong here .. but if u had both what are your oppinions on both cars the ups and downs of each?? your oppinions are what i want and since u had a subie i would like 2 here your thoughts

DropTheHammer

and i kno the sti has more power, i have a stang for that, want to kno every thing other then the power part , i want a good fun every day car :-)

Pkskull77

I wasn't just talking about power; I was also talking about handling. The RX-8 may get to it’s limits with more confidence, but the limits of the STI are a little better.

As far as an every day driver the STI is better in my opinion. The STI gets better gas mileage. The STI has more room, and is easier to get in and out of. The STI is better in snow, and rain. The STI's power band is more accessible. The STI does not require a long warm up period to avoid flooding. The STI is a more reliable car. The STI has a bigger trunk. The STI has normal rear doors.

Exactly what does the 8 offer that makes it a better daily driver?

DropTheHammer

no idea lol thats why i am askin ... but i do agree about the rain , have yet 2 drive her in the snow hope i never do i hate snow, i just guess i am lookin for a chancge as u can c i get sick of cars fast lol, and the 8 does look sportier and from sitting in it feels nicer 2 me that is, as for back seats and trunk space i never use them lol. i will be back after turkey day feast,, so happy turkey day guys.. more comments will be welcome and thanks so far.

Macius8

iTrader: (3)

Before I got my 8 I had a faster car, but after buyin the 8 I would never go back. I had driven the sti and a have also driven a modded wrx (it was faster than a sti) and in my opinion the 8 is a much better car overall. Pkskull77, I agree the sti has more room but it sorta feels like a truck inside. The seating position is way too high in it, the wrx seemed much better though. In the 8 you have a feeling of being in a pilots chair, its like a cockpit, and it actually feels like a sports car. The interior is also much better in the 8, of course its just my opinion, but I belive anyone, even in the sti community can vouch for that. Handling in the eight is superior, coming from my experince. I know I can take sharp turns faster than a sti, I had direct comparison but sorry no actual proof. The sti of course makes up for it in the straights. When autoxing for example, I rarely have seen a stock sti beat me, there were others of course, modded, that I didnt have a chance against. I know these are some small things but they add up. On an actual course I agree, the sti may take the 8. As far as the reliability factor goes, I dont think anything you mentioned is a major facor. I have never flooded my 8. Turned it on and then off many times without turning it off, and that was in the winter also. When I got it I always let it warm up, but now I treat it liek any other car. Of course when going for a drive, I always let it fully warm up before giving it hell, but I have gotten accustomed to it adn dont care. I dunno, Im not going to write anyomer crap but DropTheHammer, if you go buy tge 8, I bet you wont regret it. And welcome> peace out

czr

iTrader: (3)

You tell us not to say the truth hurts: The STi is so damn ugly lol. You guys can argue so much that beauty isn't everything but it has to account for something. The 8 is definately not the fastest but it is the most balanced : speed, looks(exterior and interior), utility, feeling, handling, uniqueness. Name another car that is as balanced for this price. It is great value. The only other car I considered was the G35C, which my friend owns, but that thing is so damn heavy, it doesn't "feel" good. (Correction: The torque feels damn good)

And the only two people are calling you a liar are ironically WRX/STi owners. One a hardcore WRX owner and the other a converted 8 owner who from the beginning was never happy with the car because he was looking for speeeeed and didn't know what he was getting himself into and now he trolls here still. lol

On your test drive, let it all out(if you can) and then you decide. Don't let people influence you too much (myself included). Good luck!

DropTheHammer

the last 2 posts i will reply on,, its time to head to the girlsfriends family now ... so yes i will return to u guys when i get back thank you

Pkskull77

Below are some R&T numbers, definently not the end all and be all of any discussions, but enough proof to dispell the myth that the RX-8 is a better handler than the STI. In all honesty the cars are almost dead even, acceleration aside.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=1114

STI
60-0 mph 111 feet.
80-0 mph 193 feet.
Skidpad .88 g's
Slalom 68.4 mph

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=1111

RX-8

60-0 mph 114 feet
80-0 mph 202 feet
Skidpad .88 g's
Slalom 65.4 mph

As far as the other stuff, looks/interior, all personal prefrence, and making any arguments on it is silly. To each their own.

My point is this. Trading in a 2005 STI for a car that is a step down, is ridiculous. Not only are you going to lose a ton of money on the transaction, your not gaining anything in performance/driveability. If you want a better daily driver get a Toyota. If you want a better sports car, get a used Vett.

DropTheHammer

those numbers are verry close wasnt expecting that.... step down in power yea and the lose of awd big lose 2... as for toyota hell no, and vette i am a ford guy,, and yea 2 each his own on teh looks part, and i liek teh 8 lol, and rwd is my thing, i guess i never found my way with teh awd its not me hard to explain but how some 1 knows what im tryn 2 say with that issue....and as for teh loss of money yep i kno seems stupid yes but if i can get some one to take over my finance ill be ok.... well i am verry interested in this car tomorrow will tell when i drive it,, and when i drive to the dealer im going to use my girls truck lol so i dont or at least hope i dont feel liek a hug power loss lol.

Dinhx8

now c'mon thats just plain silly.

Raptor2k

wow lol ok lol good luck with teh whatever ur doing lol

DropTheHammer

yea i kno it sounds better in my head..no one knows not even me how i will like the car untill i drive it tomorrow,, and from reading around in here i have seen a few who went from a more "powerful car" to the 8 and love it with no regrets