Race in February (2010)
02-03-2010, 11:50 PM
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STX again. It's roughly the same as CSP but without the R-Comps and you still need a cat. I was just poking through the rules, and your... side skirts might technically violate the letter of the rules but not the intent. Not sure how that would play out. You... might be in SM... which is even smaller but harder to compete in.
02-04-2010, 07:13 AM
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Yep you have to do the instructor, but not the school (as long as you can prove you ran with Alfa) I really liked my instructor a lot, if you can request him I'd see if Kevin Doyle is available. Here he is in a Pro 3 race
Check it out at 00:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cLVuw4cHjA
02-07-2010, 03:51 AM
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me too haha I've done that in my truck when a car pulled in front of me on the highway when I was doing 70 and they were doing 25. Luckily they pulled out of the way just in time, because I kept the wheel straight.
02-07-2010, 07:33 PM
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so i was thinking of running track pads this season since i have to swap wheels anyway. my only question is how do i get them off afterwards?? wont they be burning hot? and i'd like to get them out when i take the track wheels off so i dont have to do it all over again later.. ideas?
02-08-2010, 12:44 AM
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I'll help!! Or at least give my opinion.
I bet they cool down faster than you think. Especially with a cool down lap and maybe a little brake-free drive down the road and back. I was really surprised how fast they cool down if the car is moving. Now, cool enough to get your hands in there remove the pads i dont know for sure -- they're definitely not going to be cold.
You'll need some track pads with those new tires for sure or you'll burn through your pads super fast since you've got so much more grip. There are some pads out there that should be able to get you home without swapping them but like you said you'd rather swap them with the track wheels.
Would you autox on the pads you have now? Dont you have Mazdaspeed pads or something? I doubt you'd overheat them in a normal autox. I have Racing Brake ET500 which i think are good up to 900-1000 degrees and i've only faded them once at an autox and that was at the end of that crazy 30+ run practice when we were hot-lapping like crazy people
Just my thoughts. I couldn't imagine having street, autox and track pads.
Tracking is a different story. Brake pads get punished on the track and a dedicated set would be a worthwhile investment. I'm in the same boat. I want to run R-comps this summer (or whenever the Bridgestones on the RPF1s kick the bucket) but i'm going to need some track pads to take advantage of the new found grip and hold up to the punishment. I'm leaning towards Carbotechs (XP10 in the front XP8 in the rear is a popular combo) or Hawk somethings. I can't pin down which Hawk compound would be best yet. I want to do some temp testing to get a better idea what pads would work best. I might try a different tier Racing Brake compound too. I dont know.
Let me know what you're thinking. We have similarly set-up cars and similar driving styles (different tracks now though
) so it'd be interesting to see what your ideas are.
I bet they cool down faster than you think. Especially with a cool down lap and maybe a little brake-free drive down the road and back. I was really surprised how fast they cool down if the car is moving. Now, cool enough to get your hands in there remove the pads i dont know for sure -- they're definitely not going to be cold.
You'll need some track pads with those new tires for sure or you'll burn through your pads super fast since you've got so much more grip. There are some pads out there that should be able to get you home without swapping them but like you said you'd rather swap them with the track wheels.
Would you autox on the pads you have now? Dont you have Mazdaspeed pads or something? I doubt you'd overheat them in a normal autox. I have Racing Brake ET500 which i think are good up to 900-1000 degrees and i've only faded them once at an autox and that was at the end of that crazy 30+ run practice when we were hot-lapping like crazy people
Just my thoughts. I couldn't imagine having street, autox and track pads.Tracking is a different story. Brake pads get punished on the track and a dedicated set would be a worthwhile investment. I'm in the same boat. I want to run R-comps this summer (or whenever the Bridgestones on the RPF1s kick the bucket) but i'm going to need some track pads to take advantage of the new found grip and hold up to the punishment. I'm leaning towards Carbotechs (XP10 in the front XP8 in the rear is a popular combo) or Hawk somethings. I can't pin down which Hawk compound would be best yet. I want to do some temp testing to get a better idea what pads would work best. I might try a different tier Racing Brake compound too. I dont know.
Let me know what you're thinking. We have similarly set-up cars and similar driving styles (different tracks now though
) so it'd be interesting to see what your ideas are.
02-08-2010, 11:33 AM
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I'll help!! Or at least give my opinion.
I bet they cool down faster than you think. Especially with a cool down lap and maybe a little brake-free drive down the road and back. I was really surprised how fast they cool down if the car is moving. Now, cool enough to get your hands in there remove the pads i dont know for sure -- they're definitely not going to be cold.
I bet they cool down faster than you think. Especially with a cool down lap and maybe a little brake-free drive down the road and back. I was really surprised how fast they cool down if the car is moving. Now, cool enough to get your hands in there remove the pads i dont know for sure -- they're definitely not going to be cold.
You'll need some track pads with those new tires for sure or you'll burn through your pads super fast since you've got so much more grip. There are some pads out there that should be able to get you home without swapping them but like you said you'd rather swap them with the track wheels.
Would you autox on the pads you have now? Dont you have Mazdaspeed pads or something? I doubt you'd overheat them in a normal autox. I have Racing Brake ET500 which i think are good up to 900-1000 degrees and i've only faded them once at an autox and that was at the end of that crazy 30+ run practice when we were hot-lapping like crazy people Just my thoughts. I couldn't imagine having street, autox and track pads.
Just my thoughts. I couldn't imagine having street, autox and track pads.Tracking is a different story. Brake pads get punished on the track and a dedicated set would be a worthwhile investment. I'm in the same boat. I want to run R-comps this summer (or whenever the Bridgestones on the RPF1s kick the bucket) but i'm going to need some track pads to take advantage of the new found grip and hold up to the punishment. I'm leaning towards Carbotechs (XP10 in the front XP8 in the rear is a popular combo) or Hawk somethings. I can't pin down which Hawk compound would be best yet. I want to do some temp testing to get a better idea what pads would work best. I might try a different tier Racing Brake compound too. I dont know.
yeah i'm thinking swap for track and i'm on the fence for autox. i'm going to try the new tires on autox this weekend and see how they do. if i like it i may think about using the mazdaspeed for autox, ht-10 for track, and ceramic for dd. hahaha, yes that sounds ridiculous..
02-08-2010, 03:46 PM
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Posing this in here first, then I might start a thread on it (I think Brad brought this up once...)
How do you guys feel about drag racing? Specifically, the Car Club Challenge, which starts up again in May. Sounds like a fun way to collectively kill our transmissions
What is the Car Club Challenge?
It is bracket racing at Bremerton and Pacific Raceways. You form a team and your team performance in the brackets dictates team points and the team with the most points wins for the year. There are also driver awards.
What is bracket racing?
Bracket racing is drag racing, and think of it has having a handicapped system. You do a “dial-in”, which is what you predict you can run the quarter mile in. So let’s say I was in my car, my dial-in would be 12.95. The object is to come in as close to your dial-in without going faster. If you go faster, you’re disqualified, my car can run low 13.0x, so a 12.95 dial-in is “safe,” as it is very unlikely I will run faster than 12.99. The other factor is your reaction time, how fast you get off the line after the light turns green. Your reaction time and the difference between what your run and your dial-in are added together, he or she who has the lowest combined number wins. That is it in a very tight nutshell, it is about being consistent, it isn’t about raw speed.
How do you guys feel about drag racing? Specifically, the Car Club Challenge, which starts up again in May. Sounds like a fun way to collectively kill our transmissions
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What is the Car Club Challenge?
It is bracket racing at Bremerton and Pacific Raceways. You form a team and your team performance in the brackets dictates team points and the team with the most points wins for the year. There are also driver awards.
What is bracket racing?
Bracket racing is drag racing, and think of it has having a handicapped system. You do a “dial-in”, which is what you predict you can run the quarter mile in. So let’s say I was in my car, my dial-in would be 12.95. The object is to come in as close to your dial-in without going faster. If you go faster, you’re disqualified, my car can run low 13.0x, so a 12.95 dial-in is “safe,” as it is very unlikely I will run faster than 12.99. The other factor is your reaction time, how fast you get off the line after the light turns green. Your reaction time and the difference between what your run and your dial-in are added together, he or she who has the lowest combined number wins. That is it in a very tight nutshell, it is about being consistent, it isn’t about raw speed.
02-08-2010, 06:19 PM
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If you're thinking about HT-10's why not DTC-60 or DTC-70? About the same operating temp floor but with higher operating temps and a higher coefficient of friction. Plus you could stagger them, 70's in the front 60's in the back.
02-08-2010, 06:29 PM
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maybe i just need to buy some of both and try them.
02-08-2010, 06:40 PM
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Yeah, who knows. Might want to Ask Brian at Good-Win Racing. I know he carries all these types of pads and usually has a good grasp on the characteristics of each compound on the RX8. You might want to send him an email, explain how you car is set up and describe the braking zones at Pacific. He'll probably give you a good idea what you need.
02-08-2010, 07:24 PM
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Yeah, who knows. Might want to Ask Brian at Good-Win Racing. I know he carries all these types of pads and usually has a good grasp on the characteristics of each compound on the RX8. You might want to send him an email, explain how you car is set up and describe the braking zones at Pacific. He'll probably give you a good idea what you need.
02-08-2010, 08:43 PM
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I have not asked him about brake pads but i have about other stuff. He'll usually get back to you within a day. I'm not going to email about this though. I feel bad, i've asked him for info twice before and didn't end up buying anything. I think the next time i ask for his opinion i have to buy.
You just need an autocross. You're going through withdrawals.
You just need an autocross. You're going through withdrawals.
02-09-2010, 09:59 PM
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