Party at Packwood? (ProSolo + normal AutoX, 5/1-5/2/2010)
03-15-2010, 03:12 PM
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Party at Packwood? (ProSolo + normal AutoX, 5/1-5/2/2010)
Alright guys, you've heard me talk about these more or less non-stop for the last year and the first one is coming up in in 6 weeks! The way our SCCA Region (NWR) runs these is they turn it into a 2 day event. Saturday May 1st is going to be a Pro-Solo while Sunday is a normal AutoX, both at Packwood.
Event Links:
A pro-solo is two mirrored AutoX courses, usually around 30 seconds long each when done in Packwood. You line up with a car in the opposite course and you both launch with a drag start, complete with light tree.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY7ZFCHRlmY
You get 4 runs on each side of the course and they always line you up against someone from the same class. Competition is done via your best combined time of the two sides and it is still PAX'ed based on your car's class.
What class do I put my car in?
Most of the common mods people do are compatible with the Street Touring classes (STU or STX, usually depending on the wheel width you're running). The big caveat right now is that the AEM/MS CAI is technically illegal for the class because you have to remove/cut a plastic panel. This is new for 2010
One of these days I want to put together a spreadsheet mapping common mods to SCCA class requirements so people can quickly check without reading the 230+ page rule book.
If you're unsure what class your car falls into, just post and ask! We'll try and help
Where the hell is Packwood?
Map and Directions.
It's about 100 miles from Seattle and 140 from Portland. It's hands down the best site for local autocross. It's where our National Tour stop is and both the NW Region and the Portland Region of the SCCA use it regularly. The Porsche club uses it for a "Duel at the Mill" event once a year as well. If that's not enough to convince you, it's also the site preferred by the Evolution driving school.
I hear you have to get up *** Early to go to these events, is that true?
Yah. But, what's cool about Packwood is you can go the night before and camp out. The pits are in an empty Warehouse so it's dry (though not warm) and there's usually a bit of a party (or so I've been told) the nights before and between these two events. There's also a Motel down the street and a few other options.
How early is *** Early? Well, if you're in the first run group you need to be there and registered before 8AM, which meant leaving Seattle by 6am for me... yah...
So... how about we make a Seattle vs. Portland side bet?
If we can get enough of us to go (it would be a blast to have like 10 RX-8's there) then the losing city buys the beer at the end of the night at the bar down the street. Compete by summing everyone's PAX'ed times, if the sides are uneven drop the lowest from the side with more.
and lastly... it might still be kind of cold there in May. If the weather looks like it's going to suck, there's another one of these on 6/26-6/27.
Event Links:
- Saturday: http://nwr-scca.org/solo/pro.htm
- Sunday: http://nwr-scca.org/solo/nextevent.htm
A pro-solo is two mirrored AutoX courses, usually around 30 seconds long each when done in Packwood. You line up with a car in the opposite course and you both launch with a drag start, complete with light tree.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY7ZFCHRlmY
You get 4 runs on each side of the course and they always line you up against someone from the same class. Competition is done via your best combined time of the two sides and it is still PAX'ed based on your car's class.
What class do I put my car in?
Most of the common mods people do are compatible with the Street Touring classes (STU or STX, usually depending on the wheel width you're running). The big caveat right now is that the AEM/MS CAI is technically illegal for the class because you have to remove/cut a plastic panel. This is new for 2010
One of these days I want to put together a spreadsheet mapping common mods to SCCA class requirements so people can quickly check without reading the 230+ page rule book.If you're unsure what class your car falls into, just post and ask! We'll try and help
Where the hell is Packwood?
Map and Directions.
It's about 100 miles from Seattle and 140 from Portland. It's hands down the best site for local autocross. It's where our National Tour stop is and both the NW Region and the Portland Region of the SCCA use it regularly. The Porsche club uses it for a "Duel at the Mill" event once a year as well. If that's not enough to convince you, it's also the site preferred by the Evolution driving school.
I hear you have to get up *** Early to go to these events, is that true?
Yah. But, what's cool about Packwood is you can go the night before and camp out. The pits are in an empty Warehouse so it's dry (though not warm) and there's usually a bit of a party (or so I've been told) the nights before and between these two events. There's also a Motel down the street and a few other options.
How early is *** Early? Well, if you're in the first run group you need to be there and registered before 8AM, which meant leaving Seattle by 6am for me... yah...
So... how about we make a Seattle vs. Portland side bet?
If we can get enough of us to go (it would be a blast to have like 10 RX-8's there) then the losing city buys the beer at the end of the night at the bar down the street. Compete by summing everyone's PAX'ed times, if the sides are uneven drop the lowest from the side with more.
and lastly... it might still be kind of cold there in May. If the weather looks like it's going to suck, there's another one of these on 6/26-6/27.
Last edited by Anijo; 04-23-2010 at 10:51 AM.
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This is just a reference, read the rule book to get all the specifics.
Springs aren't allowed in stock and only the front sway can be changed. Wheels must be stock size and +/- .25 inch offset. Any cat back exhaust, as long as it passes the new 100db rule, which shouldn't be an issue with the stock cat.
The body kit rule has a max of 5 square feet for wing plus splitter. Fender flares, I don't think anybody would put these on an 8 but just in case, can only be cosmetic. The original fender may not be cut. It is legal to roll fender lips but not flair. The body kit rule may be taken back for 2011. Full exhaust including header is legal, cat must be with in 6 inches of stock location and must pass new 100db rule. Pretty sure mine doesn't pass. Seats must weight 25lbs including mount, sliders, and hardware. Cold air intake systems that remove or modify the the splash guard at the top of the bumper are not legal. coils are legal, pulleys are legal, ECU reflash is legal. LSD is legal. Triangulated strut bars are not legal. After market hoods are not legal. Brakes are open as long as not smaller than stock and rotors are same material as stock, aluminum hats OK.
Not sure about the cages. Stripped interiors not legal. No power adders allowed. No limit to wheel size. Same intake issue as STX. No cat required but must pass new 100db rule. No body kits allowed, spoiler ok, but no wings. Any clutch and flywheel is legal. Not sure if porting is legal or not.
SM is pretty open. Turbo's, super chargers, motor swap( must be mazda ). Bigger wings than STX. No limit to wheel size. May remove rear seats, but still cant strip interior.
Beyond SM there is XP. Any motor swap, stripped interior, any tire( true race slicks).
Hope this helps some, but the rule book is the best way to be sure. For people new to autoX, what seems to be a pretty insignificant mod can put you into SM.
And Packwood is an awesome site.
Street Touring classes require Street Tires.
-Street Touring Extreme (STX) allowed mods: Everything in Stock class + Full adjustable Coilovers, sways, strut bars, wings, body kits (Note: The rule says body kits must not provide any aerodynamic functionality. MS kit is ok, but some splitters/diffusers may look too "real"), Exhaust from the headers back can be modified in any way however you must retain a Cat!, wheels can be changed to any size with a maximum width of 9", aftermarket hoods, smaller/race battery, short shifters/synchro-saver, shift-****, and race seats.
-Street Touring Unlimited (STU) allowed mods: Everything in STX + >9" wide wheels.
-Street Touring Extreme (STX) allowed mods: Everything in Stock class + Full adjustable Coilovers, sways, strut bars, wings, body kits (Note: The rule says body kits must not provide any aerodynamic functionality. MS kit is ok, but some splitters/diffusers may look too "real"), Exhaust from the headers back can be modified in any way however you must retain a Cat!, wheels can be changed to any size with a maximum width of 9", aftermarket hoods, smaller/race battery, short shifters/synchro-saver, shift-****, and race seats.
-Street Touring Unlimited (STU) allowed mods: Everything in STX + >9" wide wheels.
-Street Mod: Locally, there's a Supercharged Viper running in SSM. You don't want to be here but just in case you are, engine swaps are allowed within the same make If you've somehow modified your car to the point that it can't qualify for Street Mod... why are you reading this? 
Your car probably has a V8 in it or it's a tube chassis.
If you've somehow modified your car to the point that it can't qualify for Street Mod... why are you reading this? Your car probably has a V8 in it or it's a tube chassis.Beyond SM there is XP. Any motor swap, stripped interior, any tire( true race slicks).
Hope this helps some, but the rule book is the best way to be sure. For people new to autoX, what seems to be a pretty insignificant mod can put you into SM.
And Packwood is an awesome site.
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Ah man, I was trying to get the common stuff for ST* but completely forgot about AP's. Didn't realize the stripped interior kicked you all the way to XP... but I guess that makes sense since most of the others include Street in the name.
Thanks for the help Mike... now I kind of want to just remove the classing info from the OP since it's so far off
Thanks for the help Mike... now I kind of want to just remove the classing info from the OP since it's so far off
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I am definetly down for this event. Any idea when registration is open? If its nice enough out I might camp saturday night, but might not be able to make it down Friday night to camp.
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Anybody know when the registration will be open? I tried to register this morning but its saying "the database is currently locked for the event".
Also Nick do you happen to know what class my car will fall into if I get the midpipe put on?
Also Nick do you happen to know what class my car will fall into if I get the midpipe put on?
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Without you're in STU (ignoring that your intake is technically illegal for ST*), with you're in BSP.
Registration still isn't open... if it's not open on Monday I'll start sending emails.
Registration still isn't open... if it's not open on Monday I'll start sending emails.
04-23-2010, 05:33 PM
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ProSolo regestration. http://scorekeeper.wwscc.org/register/pro2010
Nothing for the Sunday event yet.
Nothing for the Sunday event yet.
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Sunday registration is now open as well: http://www.autocrossscorekeeper.com/register/nwrscca/
Links in the OP lead to full event info for each day including cost and run group AM/PM splits. Edit: Still no sign of the AM/PM split for the ProSolo...
Links in the OP lead to full event info for each day including cost and run group AM/PM splits. Edit: Still no sign of the AM/PM split for the ProSolo...
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There is no split, everybody runs all day. If I remember correctly everyone gets four attempts in the morning and then two more in the afternoon before the challenge. Best run from each the left and right sides are added together for your actual time. I forget how many qualifiers go to the challenge round. Its a cross between drag racing and autoX, definitely worth trying at least once. Some people love them, me personally I'd rather either autoX or drag race, but I'll be there and it should be a lot of fun.
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There is no split, everybody runs all day. If I remember correctly everyone gets four attempts in the morning and then two more in the afternoon before the challenge. Best run from each the left and right sides are added together for your actual time. I forget how many qualifiers go to the challenge round. Its a cross between drag racing and autoX, definitely worth trying at least once. Some people love them, me personally I'd rather either autoX or drag race, but I'll be there and it should be a lot of fun.
I'd be willing to meet up at Southcenter and head down in a group.
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04-28-2010, 10:35 AM
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Yeah weather doesnt look so great for Saturday night into Sunday too. I might hold of on the camping until the next time they do this event when its a bit warmer.
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Pits are covered, that's were every one camps. Myself and 3-4 others camped last weekend. It wasn't bad, but I came prepared. Thick sleeping bag + long johns + 2 extra blankets.