Suspension Bushings and Sleeve Question
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Suspension Bushings and Sleeve Question
I am rebuilding the suspension parts from an RX8 (2007)
I ordered new bushings but they did not send new sleeves for the front bushings and 4 from the rear suspension. A note in the box said I would have to use the old ones. Problem is, I had to cut these from the suspension mounts as they were frozen in place.
So what does a person do from here? I have looked for replacements for these sleeves but can not find them.
Does anyone know where I can find these sleeves?
It just seems very odd that these sleeves that generally are frozen in place can not be replaced.
I ordered new bushings but they did not send new sleeves for the front bushings and 4 from the rear suspension. A note in the box said I would have to use the old ones. Problem is, I had to cut these from the suspension mounts as they were frozen in place.
So what does a person do from here? I have looked for replacements for these sleeves but can not find them.
Does anyone know where I can find these sleeves?
It just seems very odd that these sleeves that generally are frozen in place can not be replaced.
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You would have needed to order a kit that included the sleeves if they were required. I have seen kits online that sell with the sleeve. I don't think its possible to buy just the sleeves themselves.
#4
what country do you live in?
contact one of the vendors like energy suspension who make bushings or try to contact racing beat or mazdatrix or brian goodwin
or you can buy a USED one on ebay
contact one of the vendors like energy suspension who make bushings or try to contact racing beat or mazdatrix or brian goodwin
or you can buy a USED one on ebay
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I am undergoing the same problem. I got the energy suspension bushing kits for the front and rears. Turned out the rears only has 4 of the 6 needed bushings. It is missing the upright bushings used on the rear lower trailings and the toe arm bushings. Unsure why they decided to not include these in the kit, but who knows. I went to realmazdaparts.com and found the upright knuckle bushings, but for the toe arm bushings I am actually just buying new toe arms since Mine were Z shaped. I haven't gotten around to the front bushings yet, but I believe the kit came with the 4 A-arm bushings needed.(will see today)
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In the front:
For the energy suspension bushings you will need to reuse both upper A arm inserts and the front lower control arm insert. Mazda used an a-typical bushing design to limit bushing deflection, energy suspension poly bushings don't come with a new insert since they would need to have a custom insert machined. Not cost effective for the manufacturer so they don't include them. Best way to remove them is to heat the insert with a torch until you can push it out. Avoid heating the aluminum as much as possible. After you get the insert out you'll need to carefully cut the steel outer sleeve of the factory bushing to be able to get it out unless you have a press and the right sized dies. The method of removing the bushings described in the factory service manual will not work as it requires you too cut the insert to press it out.
The best way to install the energy suspension poly bushing for the rear of the front lower control arm is to leave it in the packaging and throw it directly in the trash.
Superpro, powerflex and whiteline have bushings that eliminate the need to reuse the factory insert in the front.
Whiteline has the most complete offering for the rear bushings, but they are a pain in the dick to install.
If you must use spherical rod end arms in the rear I highly recommend getting some rod end boots. They will last longer before they wear out. https://www.kartek.com/parts-categor...ust-boots.html
Also make sure you adjust the length of the rods to be as close to factory length as possible and identical side to side. Multi-link suspensions are complex and you can cause some undesirable suspension geometry changes if you change their length without knowing what you're doing.
For the energy suspension bushings you will need to reuse both upper A arm inserts and the front lower control arm insert. Mazda used an a-typical bushing design to limit bushing deflection, energy suspension poly bushings don't come with a new insert since they would need to have a custom insert machined. Not cost effective for the manufacturer so they don't include them. Best way to remove them is to heat the insert with a torch until you can push it out. Avoid heating the aluminum as much as possible. After you get the insert out you'll need to carefully cut the steel outer sleeve of the factory bushing to be able to get it out unless you have a press and the right sized dies. The method of removing the bushings described in the factory service manual will not work as it requires you too cut the insert to press it out.
The best way to install the energy suspension poly bushing for the rear of the front lower control arm is to leave it in the packaging and throw it directly in the trash.
Superpro, powerflex and whiteline have bushings that eliminate the need to reuse the factory insert in the front.
Whiteline has the most complete offering for the rear bushings, but they are a pain in the dick to install.
If you must use spherical rod end arms in the rear I highly recommend getting some rod end boots. They will last longer before they wear out. https://www.kartek.com/parts-categor...ust-boots.html
Also make sure you adjust the length of the rods to be as close to factory length as possible and identical side to side. Multi-link suspensions are complex and you can cause some undesirable suspension geometry changes if you change their length without knowing what you're doing.
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