jorlanjm

OK...I have this 2010 RX-8 GT 6MT got it at 52340 miles for about 3 months, now I have 55564 miles on it.

Idles good and revs high no problem and power still strong. 5 days ago I came back to my car that was parked for about an hour and it took a good 10 seconds cranking before it started, usually starts on the first 2 seconds. But it never happened again.

The only thing Im leaning towards too is maybe a bad coils since its still on the stock one that came with the car and most likely the plugs too.

I have the dealer records and looks like regular oil change and inspection done but no mention of tune-up.

I was originally going to wait 60000 miles to do the whole ignition system with the newer OEM "C" Coils and plugs of course.

But what do you guys think?

Loki

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I think you're about 40,000 miles late on your spark plug change and 30,000 late on coils. After 1 hour the car is cold, so it's not a hot start issue. Perhaps it was mildly flooded.

jorlanjm

Yeah i know...the guy i got it from insisted that NGK iridium plugs are good for 100k miles...but I will be replacing them soon...how do you tell the new oem "c" coils from regulqr ones?

KrisRX

Go with BHR coils if you can afford.

CelestialGryphon

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Black Halo to Sakebomb to OEM Rev C. In that order of awesome. But the first one is really the best if you can afford it.

jorlanjm

Thanks for the replies...I am not going to do much with the RX-8 aside from reliability mods down the road since its also my daily driver/fun car...I read good things about the "c" OEM Coils and they don't cost much.

Also I don't want to void the 8 year 100k mile warranty yet since I got about 18 months still.

Love_Hounds

Why do people bring this up?

"Warrantors cannot require that only branded parts be used with the product in order to retain the warranty." 15 USC 2302(c) of the Magnuson-Moss Act.

You were replacing the coils and went with BHR instead of Mazda. If they try to deny your claim, you ask them to see you in court.

9krpmrx8

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Yeah but when they do deny you, and they do. The only way you have to fight it is by paying a lawyer and going thru the court system and 99% of people are not going to screw with that.

I got my last reman installed by Mazda at 96,000 miles and they definitely were looking for any reason to deny me. The would not accept my oil change records so I had to get an oil change place to give me records.

Love_Hounds

Admittedly when you get the attorney you will have to put the money up initially, but when you win, they will have to pay the fees you incurred from the suit.

9krpmrx8

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Yeah, if you win. Lot's of ways for you to get screwed though unfortunately.

Love_Hounds

As long as your attorney isn't bad, you can't lose. The warrantor has to prove what you did negatively impacted the product they warranted for them to be able to "screw you", this assuming you have proper documentation for all related maintenance items. I like to see Mazda do that with the BHR ignition kit.

9krpmrx8

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I work with lawyers every day, they run from cases like this. But yeah if you can find a good one, you should be able to "win" after a couple of years in court.

Steve Dallas

If I think something is wrong enough with my car for warranty work, I will simply buy a set of cheap coils from one of the discount retailers like APW and put my cat back on before taking it in for evaluation. Problem solved. In the mean time, I hope my BHR coils and midpipe are helping to prevent that eventuality.

CelestialGryphon

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I'm so out of warranty I don't care, so.... it's all out of pocket at this point.

jorlanjm

Man things got heated up...didnt mean to start one...

Ok to clarify...yes intend to keep the warranty as much as possible and yes im intending to use oem parts until my warranty expires...why? Well it was posted already here...the hassleof trying to go to court and also trying toprove the aftermarket part didnt start the problem in the first place...

I would rather go toa dealer and fixmy car right away instead of them finding a loop hole and me fighting it off to court and wait months for a result...

I would rather pay $250 now for a set of OEM coils till my warranty expires rather than paying $250 a month until a verdict happens not even knowing if im gonna win the case...

I still have 2 years left before the warranty expires so i decided not to give the dealer a reason that i voided...

Its easy tosay take them to court and all but the hassle going through it is painful...I dont want that...

This of course is worse case scenario...my point Is 2 years worth warranty is still a long time...a factory remanufactured engine is still around $4000...brand new one at $7000...if i spend $500 on OEM parts that will last 2 years and just do whatever after that is I think worth it...

My old RX-7 1990 GXL lasted 220,000 miles went through 2 clutches same engine started having power loss and starting issues around 200,000 miles but still running even...stayed with me until the bottom frame ended up cracking and deemed a hazard and needed to be junked...but everything was with OEM parts just did reliability mods like exhaust and radiator...it was my daily driver after all...

My point is OEM parts are not bad...sure after market may be better eventually but they can also void warranty specially if your installing them youselves...

Im not trying to gain more power or performance...all my mods usually end up for reliability stability and handling...i just want this car to last as long as possible as my daily driver / fun car

CelestialGryphon

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Then run OEM RevC's. You can always swap back from BHR to OEM when the time comes. It's recommended they get replaced anyway at some point.

Also, ain't no heat yet son. We haven't started flinging poo and calling each other silly names yet.