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Old 07-26-2013, 01:32 PM
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New Member :) & a problem :(

Hy i have my rx-8 2004 GT Manual for 2 year now i d'ont regret my choice, but 1 week ago a i have a problem a got P0172 (system to rich) & P0300 (random missfire)

I have remplaced my coil,wires, plug
Cleaning the SSV
Cleaing the ESS
Cleaning Maf
I have not cat
i have also a Cai
my engine as recently changed by the dealer
i run also premix

when i start the car cold , i have a ruff idlee but at hot she very good and my missfire are between 7-8 rpm but no loss of power help me please

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Good start on the typical items. Two things more that you can check:
- Is it your CAI that is causing the misfire/rich condition? Most of them can give problems like that
- Compression test, coolant test for combustion gasses, and oil test for coolant.
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
Is it your CAI that is causing the misfire/rich condition? Most of them can give problems like that
Care to elaborate, just curious as to why a CAI would cause a rich situation?
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i have my cai for a long time and she run always great and my coolant is good i forgot to write it ,
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How much premix?
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Originally Posted by Carbon8
Care to elaborate, just curious as to why a CAI would cause a rich situation?
CAI pipe diameter smaller than stock would probably be over-reporting air flow, generating a rich condition detected at the O2 sensor.

He didn't say what brand, so I was leaving it open as an option it could be. Some crappy intakes out there.
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Wasn't aware of any CAI out their that had smaller diameter than stock, regardless good to know.

I only ask because my car is running slightly rich.
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Yeah, I'm not specifically aware of any either, but well... I imagine they exist, especially on ebay.
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3p I.D for the CAI

250ml per tank for the premix
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You really made me convert that

Also its about twice as much as it should be.
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Hmm

Rich will foul plugs. Fouled plugs will cause misfire... Vacuum leak will make it run lean, not rich.

Dirty injector that is not closing? Run a can of injector cleaner through the tank? I like Lucas, but it depends on what they have where you are.

20 petal stomp after all the work you did?
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No vacum leak
20 stomp brake pedal with the oil gauge confirm the reset
plug clean and new new coil new wire i try injector cleanor in the fuel no change and today New cel p2097 with my old p0300 p0172

One day..... One day i will find my problem
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I'm thinking it's the 02 Sensor. If everything was running right I would not suspect the CAI.


Try unplugging the Front 02/lambda Sensor and seeing how it runs.
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what is the diameter of the pipe to the stock airbox or a good cai


with all your opion im nervous with my custom cai (is not a cheap job tig welded good 3 ply cuppler t-clamp) but in 3In I.D

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tomorow i try the o2 , i have nothing to lose .... 1 month and i find anyting XD but i make a big tune up and a read a lot for try to solve my problem

my Mazda bpT Gtr megasquirt miss meee **** that was so easy XD .

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3.375" Stock MAF ID
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I had the same P0172 code and discovered that the nipple on the throttle body that's supposed to be plugged when a CAI is installed wasn't plugged. The plug had come off somehow. (Maybe I did it when I changed the plug wires.)
Also, smell the oil on your dipstick. Does it smell of gasoline? If so, you should do an oil change.
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i bet for the cai , anyone have a Aem for sale and ship to canada XD
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Im gonna burn the car........ a put stock oem box & my car run like **** but i have no more cell for missfire etcc the only i got po171 run to rich

Coil wire plug
Clean ssv
stock air box
clean maf
clean ess
clean injector
clean filter
no vacum leak
i clean all the ground

im out of idea
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