NEED Hel RX-8 turns on whenever it wants...
03-02-2014, 02:15 PM
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NEED Hel RX-8 turns on whenever it wants...
My car rx-8 year is 2004, milage is 95k and its automatic... now the problem is that it starts whenever it wants to, for example i drove this car for like 3 months and than i went to the gas station and i couldnt turn it on again, i towed it and got diagnosed they said i needed coils replaced so a week passes by and i try to turn on the car and it works so i than get my mechanic to change the sparkplugs and coils
, now 2 months after the car wont start again, i tow it to dealer they say that the engine has flooded and that it needs a new engine, so i tow it back to my house and about 2 weeks later my brother goes and turns on the car. now my car is working fine but i have a feeling the same thing will happen please help me on what i should do
, now 2 months after the car wont start again, i tow it to dealer they say that the engine has flooded and that it needs a new engine, so i tow it back to my house and about 2 weeks later my brother goes and turns on the car. now my car is working fine but i have a feeling the same thing will happen please help me on what i should do
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03-02-2014, 04:31 PM
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No, being flooded does not mean you need a new engine.
If you want to look at it this way:
The engine is being cranky because you have been ignoring what it needs. It needs new coils, plugs, and wires every 30,000 miles or so, or sooner if you can afford to. If you don't replace them regularly, then it will have trouble starting, your gas mileage will suffer, you will lose power, and you could start damaging the cat, which can damage the engine, etc... This car doesn't like being neglected, and will start draining your bank account fast with cascading damage if you ignore it.
If you want to look at it this way:
The engine is being cranky because you have been ignoring what it needs. It needs new coils, plugs, and wires every 30,000 miles or so, or sooner if you can afford to. If you don't replace them regularly, then it will have trouble starting, your gas mileage will suffer, you will lose power, and you could start damaging the cat, which can damage the engine, etc... This car doesn't like being neglected, and will start draining your bank account fast with cascading damage if you ignore it.
03-02-2014, 04:40 PM
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No, being flooded does not mean you need a new engine.
If you want to look at it this way:
The engine is being cranky because you have been ignoring what it needs. It needs new coils, plugs, and wires every 30,000 miles or so, or sooner if you can afford to. If you don't replace them regularly, then it will have trouble starting, your gas mileage will suffer, you will lose power, and you could start damaging the cat, which can damage the engine, etc... This car doesn't like being neglected, and will start draining your bank account fast with cascading damage if you ignore it.
If you want to look at it this way:
The engine is being cranky because you have been ignoring what it needs. It needs new coils, plugs, and wires every 30,000 miles or so, or sooner if you can afford to. If you don't replace them regularly, then it will have trouble starting, your gas mileage will suffer, you will lose power, and you could start damaging the cat, which can damage the engine, etc... This car doesn't like being neglected, and will start draining your bank account fast with cascading damage if you ignore it.
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03-02-2014, 04:43 PM
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You need to familiarize your self with the deflood procedure and do it any time it fails to start .
You also need to make sure your starter speed is good and your ignition is up to scratch .
In other words .................. what Tonic said .
If you get starter and ignition 100% and you still have problems .................... check compression (could be worth trying a decarb)
If compression is bad after a decarb and you still have all these issues
THEN and only then , should you consider a new engine
You also need to make sure your starter speed is good and your ignition is up to scratch .
In other words .................. what Tonic said .
If you get starter and ignition 100% and you still have problems .................... check compression (could be worth trying a decarb)
If compression is bad after a decarb and you still have all these issues
THEN and only then , should you consider a new engine
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03-02-2014, 04:45 PM
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Flooding just means that you have a lot of excess fuel in the engine fromt he start attempts, and it is flooding out the spark from the plugs, preventing ignition. No, it won't drain by itself. At best, it will slowly evaporate over weeks/months. You have to deflood it, or get the fuel out yourself.
To deflood it:
1: hook up the battery to another running car with jumper cables (make sure they are connected properly. You want to do this because you will be cranking the engine over a lot, and it will wear down the battery otherwise.
2: get in the car and hold the gas pedal to the floor. Keep holding to the floor throughout this procedure. If the gas pedal is on the floor while cranking, the ECU sees that and will prevent the fuel injectors from firing. You don't want to add more fuel when you are trying to get the current fuel out.
3: turn the key to on, then start, and crank the engine for about 5 seconds, then stop cranking. Keep the gas pedal on the floor. wait 5 seconds
4: crank the engine again for 5 seconds, and again wait for 5 seconds afterwards.
5: repeat 3 and 4, cranking 10 times total.
6: wait for a minute
7: repeat 3 and 4 again, cranking 10 times total.
8: remove your foot from the gas pedal and try to start the engine normally.
9: if it doesn't start, repeat 4 through 8 again
if it still doesn't start after all this, then come let us know, and we can point you to a more serious deflood that will require pulling the front left wheel, pulling the spark plugs, etc...
To deflood it:
1: hook up the battery to another running car with jumper cables (make sure they are connected properly. You want to do this because you will be cranking the engine over a lot, and it will wear down the battery otherwise.
2: get in the car and hold the gas pedal to the floor. Keep holding to the floor throughout this procedure. If the gas pedal is on the floor while cranking, the ECU sees that and will prevent the fuel injectors from firing. You don't want to add more fuel when you are trying to get the current fuel out.
3: turn the key to on, then start, and crank the engine for about 5 seconds, then stop cranking. Keep the gas pedal on the floor. wait 5 seconds
4: crank the engine again for 5 seconds, and again wait for 5 seconds afterwards.
5: repeat 3 and 4, cranking 10 times total.
6: wait for a minute
7: repeat 3 and 4 again, cranking 10 times total.
8: remove your foot from the gas pedal and try to start the engine normally.
9: if it doesn't start, repeat 4 through 8 again
if it still doesn't start after all this, then come let us know, and we can point you to a more serious deflood that will require pulling the front left wheel, pulling the spark plugs, etc...
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You need to familiarize your self with the deflood procedure and do it any time it fails to start .
You also need to make sure your starter speed is good and your ignition is up to scratch .
In other words .................. what Tonic said .
If you get starter and ignition 100% and compression is ok (possibly worth trying a decarb as well) and you still have problems ....................
THEN and only then , should you consider a new engine
You also need to make sure your starter speed is good and your ignition is up to scratch .
In other words .................. what Tonic said .
If you get starter and ignition 100% and compression is ok (possibly worth trying a decarb as well) and you still have problems ....................
THEN and only then , should you consider a new engine
03-02-2014, 04:50 PM
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Flooding just means that you have a lot of excess fuel in the engine fromt he start attempts, and it is flooding out the spark from the plugs, preventing ignition. No, it won't drain by itself. At best, it will slowly evaporate over weeks/months. You have to deflood it, or get the fuel out yourself.
To deflood it:
1: hook up the battery to another running car with jumper cables (make sure they are connected properly. You want to do this because you will be cranking the engine over a lot, and it will wear down the battery otherwise.
2: get in the car and hold the gas pedal to the floor. Keep holding to the floor throughout this procedure. If the gas pedal is on the floor while cranking, the ECU sees that and will prevent the fuel injectors from firing. You don't want to add more fuel when you are trying to get the current fuel out.
3: turn the key to on, then start, and crank the engine for about 5 seconds, then stop cranking. Keep the gas pedal on the floor. wait 5 seconds
4: crank the engine again for 5 seconds, and again wait for 5 seconds afterwards.
5: repeat 3 and 4, cranking 10 times total.
6: wait for a minute
7: repeat 3 and 4 again, cranking 10 times total.
8: remove your foot from the gas pedal and try to start the engine normally.
9: if it doesn't start, repeat 4 through 8 again
if it still doesn't start after all this, then come let us know, and we can point you to a more serious deflood that will require pulling the front left wheel, pulling the spark plugs, etc...
To deflood it:
1: hook up the battery to another running car with jumper cables (make sure they are connected properly. You want to do this because you will be cranking the engine over a lot, and it will wear down the battery otherwise.
2: get in the car and hold the gas pedal to the floor. Keep holding to the floor throughout this procedure. If the gas pedal is on the floor while cranking, the ECU sees that and will prevent the fuel injectors from firing. You don't want to add more fuel when you are trying to get the current fuel out.
3: turn the key to on, then start, and crank the engine for about 5 seconds, then stop cranking. Keep the gas pedal on the floor. wait 5 seconds
4: crank the engine again for 5 seconds, and again wait for 5 seconds afterwards.
5: repeat 3 and 4, cranking 10 times total.
6: wait for a minute
7: repeat 3 and 4 again, cranking 10 times total.
8: remove your foot from the gas pedal and try to start the engine normally.
9: if it doesn't start, repeat 4 through 8 again
if it still doesn't start after all this, then come let us know, and we can point you to a more serious deflood that will require pulling the front left wheel, pulling the spark plugs, etc...
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Yes, that is the deflood procedure. Keep in mind that if your battery, starter, or ignition are dead, it will won't work. This just defloods if you have a flood.
I highly recommend that you carefully read through this thread: https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-f...t-here-202454/ It's a lot of information, but it's written specifically for members like you that are new to everything. Just take your time reading it through, and you will have a better grasp on the needs of your car, and how to take care of those needs. I'm still editing it constantly, so there are some unfinished sections still, but the critical stuff is there.
I highly recommend that you carefully read through this thread: https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-f...t-here-202454/ It's a lot of information, but it's written specifically for members like you that are new to everything. Just take your time reading it through, and you will have a better grasp on the needs of your car, and how to take care of those needs. I'm still editing it constantly, so there are some unfinished sections still, but the critical stuff is there.
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Yes, that is the deflood procedure. Keep in mind that if your battery, starter, or ignition are dead, it will won't work. This just defloods if you have a flood.
I highly recommend that you carefully read through this thread: https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-f...t-here-202454/ It's a lot of information, but it's written specifically for members like you that are new to everything. Just take your time reading it through, and you will have a better grasp on the needs of your car, and how to take care of those needs. I'm still editing it constantly, so there are some unfinished sections still, but the critical stuff is there.
I highly recommend that you carefully read through this thread: https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-f...t-here-202454/ It's a lot of information, but it's written specifically for members like you that are new to everything. Just take your time reading it through, and you will have a better grasp on the needs of your car, and how to take care of those needs. I'm still editing it constantly, so there are some unfinished sections still, but the critical stuff is there.
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