Clichedmule407

I have an 09 R3 i bought about two months ago and i didn't get a compression test done (stupid stupid mistake). It only has 36k miles on it so i wasn't expecting any issues and i don't have any however i'm planning on getting a test done this month so I was curious if it fails will mazda replace the engine? Also what are some signs of a bad engine? I know gas mileage is one (i'm getting about 18-20 average which is good and power is where it should be.) Oil consumption isn't anymore than normal either. Anything else? Thank you

Chrishoky

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Your still under the 8 year 100K mile warranty, for more info on the car google the new owners thread. That will give you all the info you need.

Oh what the hell, here it is: https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-f...t-here-202454/

ZiG

Why don't you call and ask? Nobody on this forum can tell you for sure. Do you have service history? What if the previous owner did something to void it? You need to phone mazda and hear it from the horses mouth.

redcivic

He could be out of warranty if the sold date was in 2008. But yeah you need call Mazda to find out for sure.

gwilliams6

If the engine was replace once before, he won't get another under the Mazda warranty. You need the maintenance and service records, especially oil change history,which Mazda looks at before honoring the engine warranty.

Yes it is the first sold date that counts for the 8yrs of warranty. You are probably covered as I remember the 09's didn't reach US dealers before very late 2008 or early 2009.

redcivic

Usually if it's a new owner they cannot expect them to have any previous records, just since his ownership and he will get a replacement if it is under the 100k/8year warranty.

gwilliams6

Not true, more than a few folks here who bought used RX8 and went for replacement engines had trouble without being able to supply complete oil change records. Mazda is known to deny without proof that oil was changed regularly. Not always, but sadly sometimes. Read the posts about that. Mazda doesn't happily give up these remans , with the cost of the reman and the labor costs involved to take out and replace an engine, without documentation of regular service. This often happens with those who did their own oil changes and don't have the receipts, instead of having a dealer do it Or with folks that can't show service records. Just happened to a good mutual friend of mine and Charles of BHR with this friend's 2008 RX8 just inside weeks near the end of his warranty .

redcivic

Got any links to these folks stories? I got one ( a reman installed) and they didn't ask for any such records. Denying due to no proof of maintenance history from someone who has owned the car for some time is understandable since it is outlined in the warranty and my guess is that depends on the dealer whether they ask for proof or not. It is best to keep your records for sure, but if you just bought the car used then there is no way they can expect you to prove what you don't have.

gwilliams6

It has happened man, whether that is right or not. You can search the forum yourself to find the cases talked about . I know personally from a fellow RX8 owner, and i know from my own Mazda dealership.

redcivic

Yeah I did a search, the only ones that were denied were those who owned the cars for a while and just didn't have proof of maintenance. Which is understandable and proving maintenance is pretty standard when it comes to engine replacements. My buddies Speed3 engine died (internal failure) after 8,000 miles and he had to provide the receipt for his one and only oil change,

gwilliams6

Then you did not find all the ones I have seen posted since I joined the forum in 2008. Another had been denied at my dealership (new owners of a used RX8 bought privately, but brought here for Mazda engine warranty) because they could not provide complete oil change records. And the regional Mazda service rep backed up the dealership in that regard. And i have a friend who bought privately a used RX8 and had his engine warranty claim denied at a dealership out west, because he did not have complete oil change records.

Not saying it is fair, but it does happen, even to newer owners of used RX8s, who bought unaware they had a low compression engine.

Recent ownership does not legally supersede Mazda's requirement that the owner prove their failing or failed engine had regular oil changes if they want their engine replaced under Mazda warranty. It is a pipe dream to believe that Mazda will willing give away these remans if proper and regular maintenance has not been performed or records kept to show such.

Other engine warranties have been denied by Mazda because the used RX8 had modifications done such as a SOHN adaptor, and non-stock ignition etc. In these cases, sometimes protestations or appeals to Mazda directly yielded results, but sometimes not.

redcivic

Well we can agree to disagree as to how common it is, or isn't, based on your vast experience here since 2008. As for the legalities, all one would need to do is prove that others had gotten replacements without providing proof and /or make a common sense argument that a new owner cannot provide what he/she doesn't have. It would not be a hard fight to win. But of course these instances are rare it seems. Good stuff though, hopefully the OP is covered.

Clichedmule407,

Any updates?

gwilliams6

In the cases I know of, if once the appeals to Mazda USA were exhausted without success, folks did NOT opt to spend their own money to legally fight over it. Sometimes the appeals to Mazda did yield positive resolutions, but just as often, not. The OP just needs to know the reality. Hopefully his Mazda dealer will honor any warranty he has left, without any hassles