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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 10:28 PM
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Exclamation Lucas Oil 10110 Semi-Synthetic 2-Cycle Oil - 1 Quart Bottle as Premix oil

So I've been trying to find the Idemitsu Rotary Premix, but since I live in Canada, it's very difficult to come across one unless you pay around $50 for shipping which is just absurd.
So I was browsing through and found out that Lucas Oil 10110 Semi-Synthetic 2-Cycle Oil - 1 Quart Bottle which is relatively cheap compared to insane shipping rate of Idemitsu
And was wondering if this works as the premix for my 2009 Mazda RX8 R3:
https://www.amazon.ca/Lucas-Oil-10110-Semi-Synthetic-2-Cycle/dp/B0002KKTW2/ref=asc_df_B0002KKTW2/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=335952513546&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1143406916977589892&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001504&hvtargid=pla-571108947556&psc=1 https://www.amazon.ca/Lucas-Oil-10110-Semi-Synthetic-2-Cycle/dp/B0002KKTW2/ref=asc_df_B0002KKTW2/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=335952513546&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1143406916977589892&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001504&hvtargid=pla-571108947556&psc=1
https://www.amazon.ca/Lucas-Oil-10110-Semi-Synthetic-2-Cycle/dp/B0002KKTW2/ref=asc_df_B0002KKTW2/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=335952513546&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1143406916977589892&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001504&hvtargid=pla-571108947556&psc=1 https://www.amazon.ca/Lucas-Oil-10110-Semi-Synthetic-2-Cycle/dp/B0002KKTW2/ref=asc_df_B0002KKTW2/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=335952513546&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1143406916977589892&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001504&hvtargid=pla-571108947556&psc=1
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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 12:21 AM
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Yes, it's been recommended around here quite often. Easily accessible, inexpensive and has the right certifications
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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 12:31 AM
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Just saw this today at canadian tire for $9.95. $2 off regular price. Was thinking to buy more, but I still have two bottles.
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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 08:11 AM
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So would full synthetic 2 cycle be ok to use for premix. Or just semi synthetic.
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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Red line envy
So would full synthetic 2 cycle be ok to use for premix. Or just semi synthetic.
Synthetic works just fine. The main thing is the oil must be FD rated.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 08:42 AM
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Synthetic works just fine. The main thing is the oil must be FD rated.
Noticed this comment. I recently purchased Idemitsu Racing Rotary Premix. I noticed it is JASO FC. The above comment says it should be FD. Did I buy the wrong product?
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 09:17 AM
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Anything JASO-FC and FD are fine.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 09:24 AM
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Thanks Jinx. I noticed the Idemitsu is considerably thinner than the Amsoil Sabre I was using. I'm guessing that is better for the CAT.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 11:18 AM
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It all looks the same once it has burned Well, some produces more ash than other, but that's not related to viscosity.

Viscosity plays into quickly/easily the oil spreads on a surface and the quality of the film it creates. Also keep in mind that oil that's thin at room temp might be too thin at engine temp. The rating systems exist do you don't have to learn oil chemistry from scratch. Trust the ratings.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Petscar
Noticed this comment. I recently purchased Idemitsu Racing Rotary Premix. I noticed it is JASO FC. The above comment says it should be FD. Did I buy the wrong product?
FC should work just fine as well. The Idemitsu is top tier premix made specifically for rotary engines so it should do the job. Only real difference is FD has higher amounts of detergent in it. This is the only reason I prefer FD rated 2 stroke.

JASO FA – This is the lowest 2 stroke oil spec that tests lubricating capability, detergents, initial torque and exhaust smoke.

JASO FB – This spec tests the same things as JASO FA but is a slightly higher standard.

JASO FC – This spec has the same level of tests as JASO-FB for lubricating capability and initial torque. But it has much higher standards for detergents and exhaust smoke.

JASO FD – This spec is almost the same as the JASO-FC spec but with much higher detergent capabilities.

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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 10:14 PM
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your engine will die tomorrow or the next day regardless, so don’t sweat it
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 10:19 PM
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and for the super newb that started this thread

PLEASE DO NOT START MULTIPLE THREADS ASKING THE SAME QUESTION ON THE SAME SUBJECT!!!!

https://www.rx8club.com/canada-forum...ix-oil-271535/

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Old Jun 17, 2020 | 10:41 AM
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Cheapest JASO FD-rated

was Citgo Mystik Sea and Snow 2-cycle oil found at Menard's. $18.99 for a whole gallon. Yumm.....

Make sure you buy the Mystik Sea and Snow 2-cycle that is JASO-FD rated (look for this icon on the jug) not the TCW variant.

(and who doesn't like Maple Syrup....)
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