Going to buy an RX* Today, What should I check for??
02-04-2016, 02:54 PM
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6.3 looks like I will not be buying....
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Talked with the mechanic at mazda... he actually completely changed my mind on the car ...more to follow.
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Talked with the mechanic at mazda... he actually completely changed my mind on the car ...more to follow.
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02-04-2016, 05:48 PM
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You gonna eat that?
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02-04-2016, 06:44 PM
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Okay so the mechanic like I said just changed my mind on it...
Heres what happened. ..
The rx8 gT was for sale by the guy from an auction, I originally talked him down to 5700 even before comming out.
Went out to meet him but told him I would not buy till after the inspection.
Went to mazda and the inspector pulled me in to look at the car.
He said the stats on the compression were in the 6s with one being as low as 6.3... he told me the engine is on the way out but may be 3 month or 3 years. He also said hes been working on the RX8s since their initial release and said he has had some luck getting the compression up as much as a point when they were at he level mine is at now.
So...
What he said was he'ld write up that it had below average compression and print two copies so I could present the seller/auction guy with the results. Then see if I could get him to a price a felt comfortable to gamble on.
Went back to him and told him the news...well the guy worked with me and he was willing to take a loss on it and sold it to me for a price I feel comfortable with....
So i decided to by the 2004 with the leather and exterior in perfect condition clear car-fax and running great... new clutch new tires... everything working and jusr take the risk on the lower compression.
Car is going back to the mechanic on monday and hes gonna see what he can do for me... fingers crossed he gets it to the 7s
We will see how it goes... the way I feel is even if I only get 12 months out of it... at the price I paid its still only a car payment.
Ill keep posted ... and thank you everyone for the advice.
Heres what happened. ..
The rx8 gT was for sale by the guy from an auction, I originally talked him down to 5700 even before comming out.
Went out to meet him but told him I would not buy till after the inspection.
Went to mazda and the inspector pulled me in to look at the car.
He said the stats on the compression were in the 6s with one being as low as 6.3... he told me the engine is on the way out but may be 3 month or 3 years. He also said hes been working on the RX8s since their initial release and said he has had some luck getting the compression up as much as a point when they were at he level mine is at now.
So...
What he said was he'ld write up that it had below average compression and print two copies so I could present the seller/auction guy with the results. Then see if I could get him to a price a felt comfortable to gamble on.
Went back to him and told him the news...well the guy worked with me and he was willing to take a loss on it and sold it to me for a price I feel comfortable with....
So i decided to by the 2004 with the leather and exterior in perfect condition clear car-fax and running great... new clutch new tires... everything working and jusr take the risk on the lower compression.
Car is going back to the mechanic on monday and hes gonna see what he can do for me... fingers crossed he gets it to the 7s
We will see how it goes... the way I feel is even if I only get 12 months out of it... at the price I paid its still only a car payment.
Ill keep posted ... and thank you everyone for the advice.
02-05-2016, 01:04 AM
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You can't fix mechanical wear without a rebuild. Now if carbon build up is preventing the seals from sealing correctly, decarbonizing can help. Most of the time it's just mechanical wear.
02-05-2016, 03:34 AM
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You gonna eat that?
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If you think it's worth what you paid, even with a failing engine, then there's not much left to say.
At least you know where you stand, and you should start saving for an eventual rebuild.
If your guy can actually improve your compression numbers, then please update us on how he did it.
In fact, if he is successful, please ask him to join our forum and share his information with us.
Don't be put off by skepticism here, we've seen enough to be doubtful.
Good luck!
At least you know where you stand, and you should start saving for an eventual rebuild.
If your guy can actually improve your compression numbers, then please update us on how he did it.
In fact, if he is successful, please ask him to join our forum and share his information with us.
Don't be put off by skepticism here, we've seen enough to be doubtful.
Good luck!
02-05-2016, 05:29 AM
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Yes, he belives it may be carbon build up and wants to do a flush. Yes its a risk... it could very well not do any thing... but he said he has had some good luck on after cleaning at those numbers its allowed it to at least partially reseal and bring the compression up a bit.
He also said that the rx forum could recommend a aftermarket seperate oil res which uses 2 stroke oil instead of cycling the cars oil and said that has helped also and hes had several of his rx regualrs get it installed.... any one know where to stear me on that part as id like to try it... maybe I should push this half into another forum section...
Dont knkw what rpms it was at but can ask him when I take it back in on monday.
Oh and yes the savings for the new motor is going to begin now...
Lastly, for the record.. I could not feel anything wrong either at cold start up, warm start up or driving... so to all the guys that said you cant feel it going oum.. you are correct. Thing drives (at least to the untrained guy) exactly as I would think it should.
He also said that the rx forum could recommend a aftermarket seperate oil res which uses 2 stroke oil instead of cycling the cars oil and said that has helped also and hes had several of his rx regualrs get it installed.... any one know where to stear me on that part as id like to try it... maybe I should push this half into another forum section...
Dont knkw what rpms it was at but can ask him when I take it back in on monday.
Oh and yes the savings for the new motor is going to begin now...
Lastly, for the record.. I could not feel anything wrong either at cold start up, warm start up or driving... so to all the guys that said you cant feel it going oum.. you are correct. Thing drives (at least to the untrained guy) exactly as I would think it should.
02-05-2016, 07:10 AM
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You gonna eat that?
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Yes, he belives it may be carbon build up and wants to do a flush. Yes its a risk... it could very well not do any thing... but he said he has had some good luck on after cleaning at those numbers its allowed it to at least partially reseal and bring the compression up a bit.
Loo
He also said that the rx forum could recommend a aftermarket seperate oil res which uses 2 stroke oil instead of cycling the cars oil and said that has helped also and hes had several of his rx regualrs get it installed.... any one know where to stear me on that part as id like to try it... maybe I should push this half into another forum section...
Dont knkw what rpms it was at but can ask him when I take it back in on monday.
Oh and yes the savings for the new motor is going to begin now...
Lastly, for the record.. I could not feel anything wrong either at cold start up, warm start up or driving... so to all the guys that said you cant feel it going oum.. you are correct. Thing drives (at least to the untrained guy) exactly as I would think it should.
Loo
He also said that the rx forum could recommend a aftermarket seperate oil res which uses 2 stroke oil instead of cycling the cars oil and said that has helped also and hes had several of his rx regualrs get it installed.... any one know where to stear me on that part as id like to try it... maybe I should push this half into another forum section...
Dont knkw what rpms it was at but can ask him when I take it back in on monday.
Oh and yes the savings for the new motor is going to begin now...
Lastly, for the record.. I could not feel anything wrong either at cold start up, warm start up or driving... so to all the guys that said you cant feel it going oum.. you are correct. Thing drives (at least to the untrained guy) exactly as I would think it should.
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02-05-2016, 07:45 AM
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02-05-2016, 12:58 PM
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Life After 8K RPM....
Congrats!!
He may perform the seafoam or zoom zoom clean procedure.
Beaware! that could either do something in your favour by cleaning up carbon and bump up the compression a little bit or cause more damage as in, the seals my be stuck in their place holding the left over compression but once carbon is removed seals become free the rest of the compression goes down the drain.
Now what I gather from your post is, in my opinion obviously the tech saw an opportunity to make some quick buck off you. My advice, go to another Mazda dealer and get a compression test done to be on safe side and if it comes low then you can always go back to this guy and get him to magically bump your compression back up :-)
But do share with us what he did and all so the rotary community can be benefitted :-)
Cheers,
He may perform the seafoam or zoom zoom clean procedure.
Beaware! that could either do something in your favour by cleaning up carbon and bump up the compression a little bit or cause more damage as in, the seals my be stuck in their place holding the left over compression but once carbon is removed seals become free the rest of the compression goes down the drain.
Now what I gather from your post is, in my opinion obviously the tech saw an opportunity to make some quick buck off you. My advice, go to another Mazda dealer and get a compression test done to be on safe side and if it comes low then you can always go back to this guy and get him to magically bump your compression back up :-)
But do share with us what he did and all so the rotary community can be benefitted :-)
Cheers,
02-08-2016, 12:31 PM
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No the DMV didn't actually take 3 days... I am just slow with responding...
Wont actually be able to get to the shop this week.. Just moved into my new house and the wife has established that the unpacking must be done before I start playing =( to bad... but will update later with the car.
Its nice to have a fun car back.. Cant wait for it to warm up a little so I can play a bit on some of these back roads out in Maryland... with the temps at 30-32 it ain't worth the chance yet with random ice patches all over.
Come on spring!
No the DMV didn't actually take 3 days... I am just slow with responding...
Wont actually be able to get to the shop this week.. Just moved into my new house and the wife has established that the unpacking must be done before I start playing =( to bad... but will update later with the car.
Its nice to have a fun car back.. Cant wait for it to warm up a little so I can play a bit on some of these back roads out in Maryland... with the temps at 30-32 it ain't worth the chance yet with random ice patches all over.
Come on spring!
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