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Old Mar 5, 2017 | 09:21 AM
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You have a failed coolant seal. Water accumulates in the rotors while the car sits, then takes 1-2 minutes to burn off with a sweet smell. Coolant is all over thr cover because the engine is over pressurizing thr coolant system via a break in the coolant seal.

If engine was just rebuilt then you need to have a conversation with the rebuilder about how he's going to fix this.
Thanks for the detailed answer.
Well, it will be hard to get the hold of the rebuilder. Maybe you can tell me one more thing - is it possible to just change the seals, or the complete rebuild is required?
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Old Mar 5, 2017 | 10:55 AM
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You can change just the seals because it has only been 2000km, but while you have it apart I would go over everything to measure and make sure the clearances were correct and everything was assembled correctly.
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Old Mar 5, 2017 | 01:30 PM
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Many thanks Loki! Will be solving the issue ASAP!
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Old Mar 5, 2017 | 07:33 PM
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Also make sure the big parts (housings, irons) are not damaged. If someone messed up the water jacket, there could be other surprises as well.
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Old Mar 22, 2017 | 12:50 AM
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Im in this me issue but with radiator fluid gone, radiator and engine light on. And tons of moke from seafoam that fraid o n due to radiator fluid being gone. Plus my oil now looks like water. Then im totally nd w to owning a rx8
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Old Mar 22, 2017 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeeprskreeprs
Im in this me issue but with radiator fluid gone, radiator and engine light on. And tons of moke from seafoam that fraid o n due to radiator fluid being gone. Plus my oil now looks like water. Then im totally nd w to owning a rx8

Not quite sure what you mean. ..but it doesn't sound good.
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Old Mar 25, 2017 | 06:58 PM
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White smoke/ radiator fluid missing

My car was driving fine. But i went for a oil change and my car started smoking from alot of oil coming out thru the air filter area onto the radiator. After cleaning that it ran fine. But i had put seafoan into the gas tank in it started smoaking bad. Still is. I haven't had time to burn it out. But i have now noticed that the radiator water is gone from the reservoir and the radiator light is on now and so is the check engine light. I then tried it again a few days later and it started too run way smoother with alot less smoke. But now alot off oil and white fluid is coming out of same air filter when herb engine tho high rpms to try n burn the seafoam out?
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Old Mar 25, 2017 | 08:50 PM
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You oil may have been overfilled and is spilling into the intake (yes this is a thing on these cars). The white smoke is that oil burning, not seafoam. You need to bring the oil level to the full mark by draining if it's over full, then take the entire intake tract apart and clean that. And replace the air filter.

As for your coolant, well if the car has been overheated, you may have a blown water jacket and need a new engine. I hope you haven't driven too long with low coolant.
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 12:29 AM
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Smoking

Ok so tonight i finally got to drive it. Filled the coolant and put k&n stop leak for coolant seal. It was laggy on first in manual and shifter. But almost home it started to respond nice n jumpy lijk it used 2. The car stopped smoking in lije 15 minutes of driving. Smoked just like the rx8s i found on youtube that seafoamed. Heres the thing about the oil. After tge oil change and seafoam ut started coming out of filter and when i checked the dipstick, it had water like consistency. And when i first started driving, the oil gauge would drop to zero n it would barely go like it wanted to die. So this time i just floored it untill it would drive.

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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 12:37 AM
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Smoking

So far there is no current oil drip. Will check in the morning. Water level is the same as when i started. Im gonna move on to fixing other issues with it. My nephew had this car and can no longer afford it. Also crashed it. Now im taking over so my sisters credit diesnt get wrecked. Where can i look for infirmation/one of those repair manuals/so i can do my homework on this car. I didnt even know cars had rotary engines.
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 12:40 AM
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Thanks loki

Also only drove it one night with only water in it. N that was a lil less than 3 blocks to my car storage i got for it. My nephew wrecked it a lil on the front so im expecting difficulties.
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 10:26 AM
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Here's the shop manual:
M A Z D A

The oil gauge on the dash isn't super useful, it doesn't measure anything, just is there any oil pressure: yes/no. So if it was a 0, you were driving on no oil pressure. So.. there's that.

You might want to get a compression test done before you invest much in it, considering what it has been through. We usually recommend to use a rotary tester for that, a regular one won't give you the info you need. Your local Mazda dealer will have one, and you should get 6 values @ some rpm as a result. That tells if you if the engine is worth saving.
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Loki
The oil gauge on the dash isn't super useful, it doesn't measure anything, just is there any oil pressure: yes/no.
It actually works. Some cars have the needle higher than others.
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Nisaja
It actually works. Some cars have the needle higher than others.
If it worked, it would vary with rpm. So no
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 03:27 PM
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Unghhhh

I dont think mine works cus it only stays above half way. Or zero when i put tge seafoam in. Now im stuck in a parking lot n it wont turn over.
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 04:02 PM
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Help

What dies a bliking engine light mean?
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeeprskreeprs
I dont think mine works cus it only stays above half way. Or zero when i put tge seafoam in. Now im stuck in a parking lot n it wont turn over.
To clarify: that needle only has 2 positions: slightly above middle, and 0. 0 means you have no oil pressure, which is a much bigger problem than seafoam. Slight above middle means you have some oil pressure, but how much, we don't know. It's not a real gauge.

Blinking check engine light means you're having a misfire. Commonly caused by dead ignition coils or old spark plugs. The coils on these cars have a 25k mile lifetime, after that they're not reliable.

I think you risk a lot by continuing to drive this car. If it was salvageable before, it may not be if it continues to operate with no oil pressure and on questionable everything else.
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 05:58 PM
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Yup

I only drove it to autozone today to get parts for it. Oil reads above middle. I thought i was supposed to burn the seafoam out. Cant make it home. Think im gonna have it towed
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeeprskreeprs
I only drove it to autozone today to get parts for it. Oil reads above middle. I thought i was supposed to burn the seafoam out. Cant make it home. Think im gonna have it towed
Seafoam doesn't smoke when you add it to the gas. If you ingest it directly, sure, but not mixed with gas. So its either coolant or oil.
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 06:36 PM
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Hmmm

Well it didnt smoke before and has stopped. I looked up here where the car dies at stop lights n they say some MAF sensors
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeeprskreeprs
Well it didnt smoke before and has stopped. I looked up here where the car dies at stop lights n they say some MAF sensors
Yes if you had oil in your intake, you need to take it apart from the throttle body forward and clean thoroughly, including the MAF sensor. There is a special cleaner for it. If you use another cleaner on it, it will be damaged, so be careful.

There could be other causes, but try that first.
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 08:11 PM
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Thx for ur info! Ur the greatest

Checked the sparkies. Made it home on freeway. It only died at stop lights. Freeway was fine. I got B-12 Chemtool to clean intake. Do you know tge name of the cleaner u mentioned. Or where exactly the MAF thing is located?
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 08:17 PM
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So that's your trailing spark plug. Looks alright. There should be one of those in the 2 top spark plug positions. The lower (leading) positions will have different spark plugs, with a cross pattern on them. Those are the important ones.

The cleaner I have is just called MAF cleaner, it has no obvious brand lol. Any parts shop should know what you're talking about though.

If you look at your intake tube forward of the throttle body, there is a set of wires going to a plug. Under that plug is the MAF. It looks like a plastic loop with a resin capsule in the middle. Some cleaners will etch the surface and prevent it from correctly responding to airflow over it, that's why it has a special cleaner.

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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 08:28 PM
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Somewhere around here?

Here
Or here
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 09:02 PM
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Jeez. Im a newb at this.

Im really sorry. Just came back from autozone n found out i been removjng this MAV SENSOR LEFT N RIGHT!!. im a block head. I just bought a new one cus im pretty sure my old one is missing that wire on the side of it. Wish me luck. Sorry but this car was dumped on me n ive only had it about 9 days. Im gonna become a rotary genius. Plus whos bright idea was it to put the spark plugs where they r. Jeeeezzzz.
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