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Old 12-23-2009, 11:17 AM
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Ticket for using phone in speakerphone mode?

Today I was pulled over in Brooklyn and was given a ticket for using my cellphone while driving. I usually don't even touch my phone when I'm driving but I was lost -_-.

Two-three blocks after I hung up, a police car followed me and pulled me over. Two officers approached me nicely and the one on my driver side said he pulled me over for using my cellphone while driving. I explained to him that "it was in speakerphone mode and was no where close to my ear". He said "It doesn't matter, you need both hands on the wheel. It's a new legislation", then he asked if I have a bluetooth device and I said no, he recommended me to get one . I didn't give them any trouble and allowed them to take my license, registration and insurance.

I didn't know about the "new legislation" about not being able to use a cellphone without a hands free device when it's no near my ear. I was holding it with my right hand while resting my arm on the shifter (not the RX8). I'm not sure if I will be able to battle it off, but I would like a second opinion because I don't want to lose 130 dollars!
Old 12-23-2009, 11:28 AM
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Unfortunately - "Ignorance of the law is no excuse."

Yep, it must be a Bluetooth hands-free. I actually use the speakerphone built into my Garmin that is Bluetooth-linked to my cell.
Old 12-23-2009, 11:36 AM
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Speakerphone in your lap becomes hands free

I miss my speakerphone, but I do have a bluetooth enabled GPS now that works well.
Old 12-23-2009, 12:04 PM
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by "new legislation" the officer was talking about the one enacted in 2001. NY state law:

Contents 2001 - 2002 Edition (as of April 2002)

Article 33 Miscellaneous Rules
Section 1225-c. Use of mobile telephones.



§1225-c. Use of mobile telephones.

1. For purposes of this section, the following terms shall mean:

(a) "Mobile telephone" shall mean the device used by subscribers and other users of wireless telephone service to access such service.
(b) "Wireless telephone service" shall mean two-way real time voice telecommunications service that is interconnected to a public switched telephone network and is provided by a commercial mobile radio service, as such term is defined by 47 C.F.R. S 20.3.
(c) "Using" shall mean holding a mobile telephone to, or in the immediate proximity of, the user's ear.
(d) "Hand-held mobile telephone" shall mean a mobile telephone with which a user engages in a call using at least one hand.
(e) "Hands-free mobile telephone" shall mean a mobile telephone that has an internal feature or function, or that is equipped with an attachment or addition, whether or not permanently part of such mobile telephone, by which a user engages in a call without the use of either hand, whether or not the use of either hand is necessary to activate, deactivate or initiate a function of such telephone.
(f) "Engage in a call" shall mean talking into or listening on a hand-held mobile telephone, but shall not include holding a mobile telephone to activate, deactivate or initiate a function of such telephone.
(g) "Immediate proximity" shall mean that distance as permits the operator of a mobile telephone to hear telecommunications transmitted over such mobile telephone, but shall not require physical contact with such operator's ear.

2. (a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, no person shall operate a motor vehicle upon a public highway while using a mobile telephone to engage in a call while such vehicle is in motion. (b) An operator of a motor vehicle who holds a mobile telephone to, or in the immediate proximity of his or her ear while such vehicle is in motion is presumed to be engaging in a call within the meaning of this section. The presumption established by this subdivision is rebuttable by evidence tending to show that the operator was not engaged in a call. (c) The provisions of this section shall not be construed as authorizing the seizure or forfeiture of a mobile telephone, unless otherwise provided by law.

3. Subdivision two of this section shall not apply to (a) the use of a mobile telephone for the sole purpose of communicating with any of the following regarding an emergency situation: an emergency response operator; a hospital, physician's office or health clinic; an ambulance company or corps; a fire department, district or company; or a police department, (b) any of the following persons while in the performance of their official duties: a police officer or peace officer; a member of a fire department, district or company; or the operator of an authorized emergency vehicle as defined in section one hundred one of this chapter, or (c) the use of a hands-free mobile telephone.

4. A violation of subdivision two of this section shall be a traffic infraction and shall be punishable by a fine of not more than one hundred dollars.
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"hands free" is the main word there.
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I see. I'll suck it up. Thanks, guys.
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i'd still try to fight it and see if there is any leniency by the judge. i honestly thought that speakerphone mode was okay as well.
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lame....im in brooklyn for a couple days ill remember that sorry what a lame christmas week present.
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yea, dont pay the ticket fight it in court and theyll plea bargain with you.
Old 12-25-2009, 11:00 AM
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Just my 2 cents here. It's cheaper to fight the ticket and have the amount reduced if you feel your time is worth $0.00 per hour.
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