scwchapman

Okay guys, this is my second thread on this site, and unfortunately it's not about 8's. I am a college student at Juniata College and I got pulled over for a ticket.

The officer clocked me at 46.4 in a 25, but reduced the speed to 35 in a 25. This puts me at 2 points (according to PA state law). However, as a resident of Maryland, with a registered MD license, do those points still apply and will this show on my driving record at all if I just pay the fines?

Please post any help you can give me (other than don't speed).

Thanks everyone

Rotr8

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dont speed

JK,,, yup,,, point are point,,, innocent until proven guilty, if you send in the money and pay you accept the points, if you show up in court you have a chance to get PBJ(Probation before Jury) which = fine but no points , if your not a repeat offender... just remember to be polit and courteious, remember the ofice was already nice enough to reduce the speed if you get all snappy he could bring that up....

scwchapman

I plan to go to court in a suit, and be extremely polite. This is my first violation of any kind (not even any parking tickets) and I've had my license for three years now.

I read in a MD legal article that a MD license cannot be assed points for any out of state traffic violation as long as it is not deemed reckless (which this was not).

Keep it coming everyone.

zoomzoomnash

Really the points don't mean anything unless you plan to rack up allot more to earn a suspended or revoked license. Your Maryland record will say you were or were not convicted for speeding. The officer was real nice to drop it down to 10 miles over vs 21+. That could have been a fairly big fine. In VA it would have brought an instant reckless driving charge. As it now stands you are facing a small fine plus a minor mark for your insurance company. No big deal as long as you stay clean for the next few years. More than likely, it will not affect your insurance rate. You just might not qualify for a good driver discount although that affect usually doesn't kick in till your 2nd moving violation ticket. Don't sweat it.

So, where did you get busted? Kind of bull-crap charge anyway unless you were in front of a school. More than likely the cop saw you were young with a hot car and used the pull over to check if to see if you were the real owner or a drug dealer.

Myriad

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Check your PM

scwchapman

Haha, hot car. Wasn't my RX-8. It was a black Audi A8

I was on a major highway and there is an offramp that goes right into town and the speed limit drops from 50 on the ramp to 25 in the town and he got me a little after the off ramp ended.

And speaking of reckless in VA...got one of those. 80 in a 55. Hired a lawyer in the county and it ended up costing me 575 bucks (lawyer and court fees) as well as an 8 hour manditory driving course, BUT I got off with no points, no fines, and nothing even noted on my record.

Guess you only get lucky once. It's just I'm 19 and if my insurance goes up I'm pretty effed. I think at this point I'm going to talk to a MD attorney and a local one here and figure out the laws exactly.

first-rotary04

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now that we are talking about this i have to show up for court in VA for a speeding tickect 51 on 35 speed limit and honestly dont know what to do now since this is my second violation and also the 2nd in VA

I guess i wish you and myself good luck

scwchapman

Best advice I ever got for my Reckless in VA was get a lawyer. Do your research and hire a lawyer from the county you got the ticket in, and find out who your judge will be and get a lawyer who knows the judge. My lawyer cost me about 600 bucks overall, but my ticket was for 2500 dollars, 6 months in jail and two years license suspension, so technically it was a bargain!

elysium19

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First, I will argue with the idea that "the points don't mean anything." The points, even "just two" are far more crucial than the fine. Unless your driving record is otherwise completely squeaky clean, your insurance premiums will go up, because you've set yourself apart from the majority of drivers who have no speeding or moving violations. That is, if you are convincted

Second, I once got a speeding ticket in maryland, as a new york resident/registration. Maryland is one of the only states that has an option as nice and gentle as PBJ, which stands for Probation Before Justice. Basically, you please "guilty with an explanation", tell them your story about why the court should have mercy on you even though you did technically violate the law, and there is a good chance they will give you PBJ, which means you pay the fine but otherwise there is NOTHINg on your record, so the insurance company never finds out about it and there are no points on your licence. (HOWEVER, if you have a second violation within a time period of I believe 18 months, you get BOTH infractions on your record plus extra ****. so you need to be CRAZY careful for those 18 months.)

So- good luck, but you should try your best to please "guilty with an explanation" (unless you have some other way to prove your "innocence") and hope for a ruling of PBJ. Just be sincere, apologize profusely, and all that jazz.....

yokohamaboi

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Dude i have court in 2 weeks for two tickits, the first one the cop said i ran a red, which is Bull and it was a motorcycle cop so that sucks- i look like a freaken 14 year old the least, and right when he pulled me he was like "New car egh" i didnt even have my license plates yet since i barely got it for 1 week, the second tickit was on july 4 they said i changed lanes unsafe which is bull! i checked my mirrors and no cars so i turned my on my signal and changed lanes, and i didnt even speed on any of the tickits. anyways he also put down that i had more then one person in the car which i barly found out the next day that your allowed to have one person in the car and i only had one. egh i think im effed, i hope they beleive me, but out doubt it, thier gonna be like what does a kid know. well do you think i can bring my friend that was with me and he can tell them i did a legal lane change? and he and I were the only ones in the car? egh do you guys think their gonna revoke my license? or goto juvie? im scared

flipRx8

no your gonna gget put in a long *** 6 hour dirving improvement class your not gonna go 2 juvie for some tickets

anti-mike

PBJ = Probation before judgment, i.e., you are entitled to a probationary period before a judgment is entered on your record. if you successfully complete probation, no judgment. if you screw up while on probation, the judge can enter a judgment and impose any combination of points/fines authorized by law.

finally putting the law degree to use heh

scwchapman

I know that I can plead for PBJ in MD. But I am a MD resident and I got a ticket in PA, and I don't think that rule applies here.

halimsteven

what i believe is that if you have MD license, and you did a moving violation in PA, i don't think you will get points on your license, but you just need to pay the fine. at least that was what happened to a guys last time when i went to the court for my speeding ticket.
this guy got a speeding ticket in NJ, but his license in NY, he just needed to pay the fine. but still, i am not sure....
steven

first-rotary04

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i think you are right, no points but it does show up on your record as a moving violation. I got a ticket inb VA being a MD resident and it showed up when i put insurance on my bike.

scwchapman

****. Definitely can't have it show up on the insurance. Guess I'll have to go get my suit.

d05

I can't really offer any advice, but can relay a similar story. I used to go to college in Florida, and got my first and only ticket to date (knock on wood), for a moving violation while I was there. I paid the fee and moved back to New Jersey some years later. When I got my NJ license, I was told that some states don't reciprocate driver's information. I actually think Pennsylvania is one of those states. So basically, if you get pulled over in one of these states, fined and pointed, it will go onto record under a temporary state-ID which you are assigned. So while you may not actually receive those points, if you ever applied for a license in that state, you would automatically have any previous points you acquired tacked on. I was even told that, if you performed an offense which would suspend your license, your out of state license would not be suspended, but should you apply for a license in that state, it would immediately become suspended, and the suspension period would begin then.

Anyway, as I said, I got off free after just paying the fine. My insurance never mentioned nor acknowledges it having happened. Good luck.

jusanb

I got a 75MPH in a 55MPH in NY and I live in PA never had any points.

Myriad

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As far as I know, points from other states do not transfer to PA DL's unless they involve a major crime (DUI, Vehicular Manslaughter, etc.). This is not the case for MD residents.

halimsteven

i believe, if you have a license in there three states, NJ, NY, and CT, the points are transferable. that's what i believe. but, i still doubt it. you will see, and let us know..heheehe
steven

RIWWP

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Since State transfer information is getting posted, thought I would chime in with the complete *** that is Rhode Island...

Since this state is so small, they don't have a very large database themselves, so they linked up with the DMV/MVA/etc... for other states. As in an active link. And by "other" states, I mean ALL of them. All 49 + DC.

If you get pulled over in RI, and the officer runs your license, his computer pulls your public driving record from 51 different jurisdictions in a couple of minutes. (Doesn't show states without any information). Fortunately, this is just public record, but it still blows ***.

(I work with a guy who is a retired cop, 27 years, ex-chief of police for his town, no reason to lie to exaggerate.)

m108kos

+points = +insurance is most cases

Earl the Pearl

My first piece of advice would be to contact Maryland department of motor vehicles and see how this will be handled.

From there it is a game of chance so to speak. If you are lucky and you show up to court and the cop offers to drop all points and just fine you, take it. If the cop insists on a trial, you're screwed. But, that doesn't mean for sure paperwork will be sent in and you're insurance company will find out about it but that is a roll of the dice.

I ran into a similar situation almost three years ago. I got a ticket similar to your MPH in PA. The cop was new on the force and didn't cut me any breaks. I called DE and they said if I could get the cop to lower the MPH by 2, it would not show up on my record. They were not willing to do anything. I went to court and it turns out the judge over slept and blew off my trial. The cop offered to drop the points and just issue the fine.

I like a dumb *** asked to see the traffic report and the cop got pissed off and left. We had an actual trial later that day. I went into the court room and found out the hard way why the cop would not let me see the traffic report. He had me going the wrong way on the traffic report. This was a little bumpkin town in Berks county so the judge let him correct it and I was found guilty.

I received no acknowledgement from DE stating the incident and my insurance never caught it. I did not pay for a copy of my driving record so I can't say for sure if it hit or not. Due to the length of time now, my record is clean but at that time I had two tickets the insurance company never caught. One was only 2 miles an hour under the maximum allowable speed.