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Looking for a EMS for my RX-8 Turbo. Is it Interceptor X the best choice??

 
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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Looking for a EMS for my RX-8 Turbo. Is it Interceptor X the best choice??

Hi guys, I need help for looking the best EMS for my RX-8 turbo. I read a lot about different EMS and always get any kind fo issues, EMS like Greddy Emanage, Emanage Ultimate, HKS F CON V, etc... And right now I dont know wich EMS have to go with. Pls give your opinions.

My mods list:
SFR custom turbo kit with Turbonetic T60 Turbo
Spearco Interccoler
550cc RC primary injectors
650cc RC secundary injectors
TurboXS 3" Test pipe with cat-delete
TurboXS 3" Exhaust
Blitz DSBC boost control
HKS Boost, EGT, Fuel press, Oil press gauges
Innovative LM-1 A/F

Everything is installed in my Rx-8 is just remain to pick up the best EMS and make the tuning.

Thanks.
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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Do you think Im going to loose my time to post a dream car?? Pls I never waist my time like a kiddo.

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What is the level of boost is consider safe for the 93oct and the 112oct for the 13B renesis?? Someones saids the dynos numbers on the forum is not true, because in many Japan shops tried to boost the 13B renesis and no one was hold more than 7psi, everytime is Bumb!!!!

Also the top tuner from JUN is saids same thing and he dont feel the confidence to make the tune with the HKS F CON V to my RX8, because in his concept the 13B renesis is not good for turbo applications.

Can someone tell me a sucessfull tuning the 13B renesis without blow the engine on the tuning, and how much boost was and how many rwhp gets??? Because on forum is a lot of dynos, but most of that is a long time of tuning and maybe blow many engine to get the sucessfull tuning, but nobody will tell that is blow the engine before.

Everything is ready, and right now is only waiting for tuning.
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 02:09 AM
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Nice setup man can't wait to see the finished product, sent you a pm with questions......oh ya also.... nay on the wing
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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you can hold more than 7 psi, no problem.

the highest numbers we've seen on here are about 376@6000rpm IIRC at 12psi..with ignition problems...once those are fixed and it can pull to redline, you're looking at 400-420rwhp (just my guess anyway, but it's conservative). this was done on the test car built by mazsport, also the manufacturers of the interceptor-x
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by epitrochoid
you can hold more than 7 psi, no problem.

the highest numbers we've seen on here are about 376@6000rpm IIRC at 12psi..with ignition problems...once those are fixed and it can pull to redline, you're looking at 400-420rwhp (just my guess anyway, but it's conservative). this was done on the test car built by mazsport, also the manufacturers of the interceptor-x
Can you tell me who's sucessfull tuning of the 13B renesis with more than 10psi without any issue or blow up the rotors??? I need they help, because I read in major upgrades here and see something that is made me think that the theory of Mr. Koyoma is right. For example, I talked to Tim of SFR on friday and he told me the safe boost for the 13B Renesis is 7psi (on wastegate only), for more of that get some issues and from one post of Scott of mazsports, the RX8 you said, have dynos of 5psi, 7psi, 9psi and 12psi, but he admited is a issue problem in 12psi. And also is something very irregular I saw in Scott dynos, for every dyno, the level of the hp is increase, but the irregular, is when he increased the boost step by step, he reduce the rpm to run, basically on 5psi on his dyno, he run on the dyno 8,500rpm, 7psi he runs only 7,500rpm, 9psi and 12psi in 6,800rpm. So, I think something is wrong here, because the 13B Renesis in N/A applications is run 9,000rpm. So why Scott cutting at that low rpms?? the rotors wild blow up after that limit???

Im not expert in rotarys, this is my first rotary car, but I have a anothers pistons cars with turbo applications and what we run before in N/A mode, I can run same or more rpm after make the upgrades to turbocharge application.
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Most turbo dynos end at 8k or less because it stops making power there so why run it up?
The VE on the Renesis as ported goes severely downhill after 7200 RPM and this is only exacerbated by turbo systems that seem to loose boost at that same point.
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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Man I love it when MM come in, slaps his nuts on the table and says something that sounds wonderful but I have no idea what the hell he's talkin about
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Originally Posted by WantedTwo
Man I love it when MM come in, slaps his nuts on the table...
Ouch! I prefer to gently lay my nuts on a soft cushion...
That said, I tend to go for concise, which can sometimes be unintelligble.
Please feel free to require me to explain things in lay terms when needed.
Old Jul 30, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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ghlisa it sounds like u got a pretty good list of parts for ur 8...............unfortunately from what ive been readin the 8 13B renesis rotary can handle 10-15 psi HOWEVER, due to the fact that not many have turbo'd, the ones that have, have found there ignition system to be a problem when there tryin to reach 300-350rwhp, so if ur lookin to break that upgrade ur ignition system along with the EMS...............look it up on here, theres a company i believe out of JAPAN that sells Plasma Direct Igntion coils, supposedly very good from what i hear, although i believe there around 700, upgrade those ur spark plugs n wires, then here comes 400-450 rwhp..............so let me know whats up..........
Old Jul 31, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Ouch! I prefer to gently lay my nuts on a soft cushion...
That said, I tend to go for concise, which can sometimes be unintelligble.
Please feel free to require me to explain things in lay terms when needed.

haha he said lay....
 
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