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Old 08-04-2005, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Lock & Load
Nice work guys , if you need a test pilot in Australia more than happy to be the test pilot :D

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Beat me to it Michael. Already started to put my money away for this one! Brilliant
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Old 08-04-2005, 01:44 AM
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How much for the optional equipment? I couldn't find it on the site.

Optional Equipment:
-Laptop Interface Cable and Software (required to make changes to the tuning map shipped with your Interceptor-X)
Save 30% if purchased with your Interceptor-X.

-Plug-in Intake Air Sensor for Forced Induction Applications: Allows air temps to be monitored near throttle body
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Old 08-04-2005, 04:10 AM
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like rotary god said. please tune it on a N/A . iwould love to see wuts going on with it. im sure a lot of ppl would jump on this
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Old 08-04-2005, 04:45 AM
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Finally!!!!!!!!
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Well done.
However your product specification lacks a detailled description of the maps and fucntions that are available and how they work in order to determine for which application it might be used and how to tune it.
I could not find the price for the optional interface cable and software.
Also, a few pictures of the PC software would be nice.

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Old 08-04-2005, 06:18 AM
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Yes, please show us the software! I can only hope its less of a chore to muddle through than Motec's archaic stuff.

Saving my pennies for this as we speak! Can't wait to see what it will do on an NA engine.. turbos are yucky
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:01 AM
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Will this work on a AT?
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Cool

Congratulations!! Looks promising...

I assume you retain the stock trigger wheel for CAN signal and steering... are you decoding the 36-2-2-2 factory wheel or does it require a second wheel be installed for TDC determination?

This is definitely cool ....
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How different can it be???

as a Canzoomer unit owner (Greddy Emanage), could someone please enlighten myself as to how this is different from the emanage???
I have proven with a few other mods of obtaining 240Hp from the flywheel with the emanage, the only thing is that the car will change this map by recalculating if the car is gunned when slightly cold.
How is this new plug and play controller any better than what I have. Also different Rx8's run with differing maps of the specific cars. How can this be obtained on a plug and play unit??
Please note base line Rx8 will run 215hp on this same dyno at the flywheel.
This is for comparison.
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Originally Posted by mcpheeg
as a Canzoomer unit owner (Greddy Emanage), could someone please enlighten myself as to how this is different from the emanage???
I have proven with a few other mods of obtaining 240Hp from the flywheel with the emanage, the only thing is that the car will change this map by recalculating if the car is gunned when slightly cold.
How is this new plug and play controller any better than what I have. Also different Rx8's run with differing maps of the specific cars. How can this be obtained on a plug and play unit??
Please note base line Rx8 will run 215hp on this same dyno at the flywheel.
This is for comparison.
here is a crude explanation:

the emanage/CZ unit only supplies modified sensor input to trick the stock ECU into behaving differently...the problem is the stock ECU is very controlled and doesn't allow major changes in timing/etc/etc/etc that is why pulling a CEL with Emanage/CZ is very common

this unit actually gives normal readings to the stock ECU tricking it to think it is actually controlling a normally operating car when in fact Interceptor-X has already taken over control of everything you want it to...in otherwords your stock ECU is controlling mostly a virtual car :D while the Interceptor is Controlling the real car

the advantage of this new unit is many other stock componenets that interface and rely on the stock ECU can still function (ie radio/AC/and some engine controll you don't want to relinquish) as the interecptor-x simply leaves them alone

RG critique me please
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Old 08-04-2005, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mcpheeg
as a Canzoomer unit owner (Greddy Emanage), could someone please enlighten myself as to how this is different from the emanage???
I have proven with a few other mods of obtaining 240Hp from the flywheel with the emanage, the only thing is that the car will change this map by recalculating if the car is gunned when slightly cold.
How is this new plug and play controller any better than what I have. Also different Rx8's run with differing maps of the specific cars. How can this be obtained on a plug and play unit??
Please note base line Rx8 will run 215hp on this same dyno at the flywheel.
This is for comparison.
The eManage (AFAIK) can only modify the signals from the stock ECU. It basically attempts to correct the factory fuel curve with offsets. The problem with this is that in closed-loop, the base fuel curve in the factory ECU will change as it learns LTFT, thus requiring new tuning of the eManage curve.

The unit Mazsport is offering can completely control fuel independent of the factory ECU. It generates its own injector signals rather than modifying the stock ones.
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Old 08-04-2005, 08:31 AM
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At first blush, this sounds really cool. Can't wait to see some of the board's more knowledgeable members get a hold of these.
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Old 08-04-2005, 08:39 AM
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Hmm a plug-and-play system? For this car? Kick me in the nuts I'm dreaming.

I wanted to test out a Megasquirt system, but I think I might be on my own with that one. Plus I'm broke.
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Originally Posted by shelleys_man_06
... Kick me in the nuts ...

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With pleasure! :D
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sounds great... would like to know more info regarding map sizes, software, ect.

I'd also like to know more about where the stock ECU control ends - will it still have some of the saftey features like knock retard or limp mode if you overheat or the correct cold start no flooding logic? Will you still be able to get CELs for non fuel control related items?
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Old 08-04-2005, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Rasputin
With pleasure! :D
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Old 08-04-2005, 10:31 AM
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I just got off the phone with Scott at Mazsport, who was kind enough to spend 30 minutes explaining the theory, features, design and testing that make this little wonder box possible.

To start with, Scott has tested the box for over 3K miles, with several different drivers including his wife in mostly urban driving to really get the daily drivability of the car down. To day the only codes thrown have been LT fuel trim is rich (due to the turbo on the car) and no CEL. The software and cable will run about $125 extra but may be offered at a discount if purchased with the unit. Scott is running factory spark plugs, wires and coils.

The box sits on top of the stock ECU and plugs in much the same way as the Canzoomer box did. As stated earlier, it basically tricks the stock ECU into a virtual car mode, where it thinks everything is just peachy in its own happy world.

The major feature highlights include:

-16x16 maps for full fuel and spark tables
-Adjustable leading and trailing split
-Idle enrichment and ignition control (but not RPM control)
-Full use of ABS, DSC Radio, A/C (cruise control was an issue, this bug is being worked on)
-Ignition split does not switch between negative and positive at idle (you have to choose one or the other)
-CEL’s / error codes still work for all equipment (the car can complain, but can’t do anything about it)
- The unit will come with pre tuned maps for certain turbo kits, but can be customized with the software if the user desires
- Will work for NA cars, although he doesn't have a NA map yet as he has been working to get the turbo folks setup (he is planning to dyno a stock car with it soon)


Hope this answers both questions and prayers

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Old 08-04-2005, 10:37 AM
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Thanks Scott for working hard on this. I am curious how this will work on a NA car like mine. I've been running the Canzoomer for quite awhile now, but it does become a pain at times.

When you say. "This allows you, the end user, to choose which intake, exhaust, turbocharger, nitrous and injector combination you want and not be faced with “I had to put stock ________ back on so I could drive it”.

Does this mean that you have a list of aftermarket mods that you can choose from that will change the maps?
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Old 08-04-2005, 10:58 AM
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Test it on an N/A car, PLEASE!!! Got my money all squared away for this if it work as advertised.
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Yes please. More information on whether it can improve upon the canzoomer for NA applications. I was just about to buy a canzoomer on Monday. But now I'm all and wondering what to do...... :D
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you're selling a product for 1700 bucks and you dont even have dyno pulls on what kind of gains can be seen? Am I missing something?

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Interceptor-X Info

Thank you all for your interest in the Interceptor-X EMS.

Please keep in mind that we are a large rotary shop providing service, repair and performance upgrades and are working on customers cars most of the time. Keep the questions coming and we will be happy to respond to all of them as soon as we come to a stopping point today. Thanks for your patience.

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Old 08-04-2005, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by cleoent
you're selling a product for 1700 bucks and you dont even have dyno pulls on what kind of gains can be seen? Am I missing something?

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dyno pulls are in the video, with a Greddy kit equipped car.
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Originally Posted by cleoent
you're selling a product for 1700 bucks and you dont even have dyno pulls on what kind of gains can be seen? Am I missing something?

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ECU's do not make power. They allow you tune properly so everything else you have done can reach it's full potential. The stock ecu is what is holding the car back. It is complex and hard to trick. All new cars are starting to run into these kind of problems. The best answer is to just bypass the whole thing, but you need it to run basic stuff on the car. We are driving around in a computer. This is the most important thing you can do for your car when trying to make power. It should solve all the driveability issues people have faced with their turbo setups and potentially allow someone who wants to do some porting and go na see maximum gains. This is of course all assuming good tuning know how. Bad tuning would just make it an expensive paperweight.
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