Brake Upgrade Opinions
06-25-2010, 11:32 AM
#26
Momentum Keeps Me Going
But I would argue that the very aspect of the RX-8 brakes - that they are nearly bulletproof, reliable, and provide massive braking power - all stock - makes them all the more ripe for "playing with". Specifically, with the required braking engineering there and a given, mods to loose weight are easily accomplished (rotors, calipers). Undoubtedly mods provide other benefits under stress. But simply combined with lightweight wheels/tires one can and shed an amazing 10-15 pounds of unsprung weight and maintain all the Mazda
given braking characteristics and more. We are blessed.With most cars, with most brakes, you are playing braking performance catchup first, loosing weight is a bonus. How lucky we have it.
06-25-2010, 11:59 AM
#27
Brake Fluid: Clean and fresh stock style fluid works great, no need to waste your money. I have never boiled my fluid or had brake fade.
SS Lines: Great upgrade.
Rotors: I love the racing brake rotors, both 1 or 2-piece will work great. 2-piece if you plane to puch the car hard at the track.
Pads: I use ceramics on the steet and I have used both hp+ and dtc-60 (currently). The HP+ and DTC-60 are track only pads, dont use them on the street. They will cause noise and they are bad for the rotors.
I have not used HPS pads but from what I have heard they are a little better then ceramics but more noise and dust. You can use both the ceramics and the HPS pads for dual street and track use, it just depends on how hard you push the car at the track and how much dust/noise you can deal with.
My overall recommendation is to use your stock rotors for the street, resurface them and use ceramic pads. Buy a second set of rotors 1 or 2 piece and use them with the race pads that fit your driving.
Racing Roots: Brice seems to have improved and learned his lesson about selling custom parts that are not in stock. He keeps a bunch of racing brake rotors and hawk pads in stock. If he says he has them, he should ship the same or the next day. So if he has the best prices, then go for it. I have given him a chance on a few things lately and he has come through.
SS Lines: Great upgrade.
Rotors: I love the racing brake rotors, both 1 or 2-piece will work great. 2-piece if you plane to puch the car hard at the track.
Pads: I use ceramics on the steet and I have used both hp+ and dtc-60 (currently). The HP+ and DTC-60 are track only pads, dont use them on the street. They will cause noise and they are bad for the rotors.
I have not used HPS pads but from what I have heard they are a little better then ceramics but more noise and dust. You can use both the ceramics and the HPS pads for dual street and track use, it just depends on how hard you push the car at the track and how much dust/noise you can deal with.
My overall recommendation is to use your stock rotors for the street, resurface them and use ceramic pads. Buy a second set of rotors 1 or 2 piece and use them with the race pads that fit your driving.
Racing Roots: Brice seems to have improved and learned his lesson about selling custom parts that are not in stock. He keeps a bunch of racing brake rotors and hawk pads in stock. If he says he has them, he should ship the same or the next day. So if he has the best prices, then go for it. I have given him a chance on a few things lately and he has come through.
Hey brother, you are a stand up guy but you have not been keeping up with his antics. A local member here bought S-Techs that were "in stock" and he got them about 40 days after paying for them and paid $50-60 more than he should have. He just refunded another guy after complaints because he could not deliver coil overs that were paid for. I'm really tired of people getting screwed around on this board. He sure as hell is quick to take that money though.
Yeah it sounds like he has really learned his lesson
Yeah it sounds like he has really learned his lesson
No I am not staying up on things. All I can say is that I ordered 2 items that no one else was selling and I received them fast and I placed a third order for some rotors. I tried Rishie with auto RND (I have allways gotten my brakes from him in the past) but this time I didnt get a reply via email and I needed them fast. Brice got them out fast.
Also, I placed a web based order with RR and it turned out 2 of the 3 items were out of stock. He emailed me right away to tell me the eta and asked what I wanted to do. I canceled the order and got my money back right away.
So if he has the best price, I say go for it but if he says its in stock and gives you a shipping ETA, he better stick to it. If not, despute the payment right away. There is no reason someone should wait weeks or months to dispute it.
Also, I placed a web based order with RR and it turned out 2 of the 3 items were out of stock. He emailed me right away to tell me the eta and asked what I wanted to do. I canceled the order and got my money back right away.
So if he has the best price, I say go for it but if he says its in stock and gives you a shipping ETA, he better stick to it. If not, despute the payment right away. There is no reason someone should wait weeks or months to dispute it.
06-25-2010, 02:45 PM
#32
The Professor
To be honest:
Get speedbleeders. They are the simplest easiest enhancement you can do for your brake system.
to improve the brake performance all you need are SS lines and new pads.
Also save money for tires b/c at the point where you get fast enough to necessitate a braking upgrade you are going to be chewing through tires.
Get speedbleeders. They are the simplest easiest enhancement you can do for your brake system.
to improve the brake performance all you need are SS lines and new pads.
Also save money for tires b/c at the point where you get fast enough to necessitate a braking upgrade you are going to be chewing through tires.
06-25-2010, 04:45 PM
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My instructor at ECR raced an RX8 and Miata in Autocross and tracks across the country and he was asking me what I had done to the car. I told him about the HPS pads and he actually said he prefered stock pads because he felt that had more bite, which given the amount of dust they produced I could easily believe.
06-25-2010, 05:15 PM
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I ordering my slotted rotors, HPS pads, Fluid, and SS lines from him. I told him that I had a slight time crunch before a track day and he got everything to me ASAP and kept in touch
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