I feel sorry for you guys.. this sucks..

 

Hey Brian, how about a run down of what you have and what you are waiting on etc.

If it's ok with the group, I would suggest sending out the units that you have to those on the list. I'll put myself at the bottom of the list since I made the suggestion.

 

Well I know for sure that I will never buy anything from Canzoomer again.

 

Ok, this is bullshit...

If this group buy is not completed by August 31st. And I mean completed and received by all. I'm initiataing a refund per Canzoomers policy, and they should be able to refund money of product that hasn't been received, especially if they will refund product after it's been received for a week.

I understand the summer vacations, I also undestand the delays with the new map development efforts over the past 6 months, so I think I'm setting a forgiving and realistic deadline.

I too just want to voice my frustration, as I was in this group buy originally, and was out of it for 4-6 weeks, and got back in again as the opportunity presented itself recently.

There is NO reason why 25 or so units can't be produced in a timely fashion, and everyone has been pretty gracious up to this point.

I kid you not, this is going to get seriously ugly if things don't start happening real quick like.

 

Canzoomer should change his slogan from "We want more" to "Maybe six months..."
I have to agree with Hskr8. If this thing isn't completed by the end of August - a deadline that is entirely too kind for many of those who ordered over six months ago - I hope Maurice has invested heavily in a good flame suit - for starters. Because there is always this forum that is waiting in lurk mode.
C'mon Maurice, enough is enough.

 

You guys should call and/or email him. I don't believe he's on the forums very much these days, so your ultimatums won't do much good if he doesn't know about them.

But I totally sympathise.

 

Ditto everyone's obvious frustrations. I was on the first group buy list but somehow got out of the email loop and ended up NOT getting in on the actual buy. So then I got on the current list. What a mistake that's turned out to be. Would saying that I feel "robbed" at this point be too strong a characterization?

 

if not by august everyone should go start a negative CZ thread.. i sold my spot but i'm pissed for you guys!!!

 

Sent pm and e-mail to canzoomer,not happy this group buy is bullshit..

 

How about a group vote on if we keep the buy alive or request a refund. To Hskr8's point, if he will honor a refund, then a cancellation should also be honored.

 

I will be calling thier Canadian offices tomorrow, and I will try to get a fix on things and where things stand. I'll be politically correct, however I am pissed off, and I'm also going to be firm on getting this group buy accomplished ASAP, and my 8/31 deadline stands.

I'll post my read of things tomorrow after I get off the phone with them.

Brian, this is in no way an attitude toward you, as I think you're just as frustrated as the rest of us, but dammit dude, you gotta push this issue as well. Ignoring it only puts it off and makes things worse.

 

I think we should have them by 8/8. Id like my money back too. If not im going to sell my mine to someone else. I would just rather not have the thing.

 

im not ignoring anything. there's just nothing to say.

about 3 or 4 times a week, I call. Sometimes I get ahold of him, and he gives me an optimistic ship date, which has but once not held true. The other 90% of the time, I'm told he will call me back. I work 6 days a week 9-7, so I have to call when I can get some free time at work. mind you of course, this was never supposed to have gone on this long.

trust me that I will let you know once I hear some news that I myself actually believe. it took half the memebrs of the first GB breathing down his neck for something to get done about it, so i suggest we do the same.

 

you shouldnt have to breathe down his neck.. I say pull out and let him eat the money. this is nuts

 

Hey Brian, no sweat... and I'm sorry this has been such a headache for you as well...

Just got off the phone with Maurice, (actually got cut off due to net 2 phone), but he had allot of things to say about development work on issues relating to burnt coils.... sounds like he didn't go on his vacatation due to too much stuff going on, and he thought that everything should be shipping by next Wednesday.

He was real nice to talk to, and the only thing I can tell is he pretty much seemed to know why I was calling etc. Just sounded like he was really working hard on the burnt coil issue that a few guys have had. He said that everything on backorder should be shipping next Wed, and that included our GB.

I wish I had more to tell you all, but I don't, and let's hope this date is a realistic one.

PS. I got the feeling he reads these threads when he can, even if he doesn't post often.

 

^^^ Maurice told me everything he just said

They have 27 in the boxes and packed up, the remainder due end of the weekend. So, lets hope for next week. At least we wont have to go through the hassel of sending these back to get all these update.

 

Thanks Brian, appreciate you following up and not taking offense to the harsher language I used earlier in the thread.

 

Any word on if the units will have the "coil safe" fixes that were recently posted to CZ's forum?

On a side note, CZ is doing the smart thing in making sure our units are solid. With the size of this group buy, negative results would be deadly to future sales as well as the liklihood our units will be supported for some time to come.

 

yeah, they do...

did everyone get the email I sent last week?

 

Yes, I did. Allow me to echo Hskr8's sentiment about harsh words and such. I think many of us would have been a little less touchy about the delay had we known sooner that Maurice was working on a fix for the coil problem, and didn't want to send out the units for the GB without that fix. Having dealt with Maurice before, I know to expect delays.
Thanks for all the work and putting up with all the complaining!
-Doc

 

Yeah, my bad... I've just had a problematic weekend as well... it has to get better, it can't go downhill anymore, but I was wrong to make such a big stink. Hopefully the ball is moving again, and we can all close this chapter and get on with our lives.

 

im just glad to hear he isn't leaving town, at least that wont push it back another 3 weeks

 

H0ly Sh|t! I just got off the phone with CZ and supposedly the last boxes are shipping today!!! Well, I will believe it when I see it, but this is hopefully all coming to an end soon.

Later

Slavearm

 

Oh and if any of you haven't read it yet, you should pick up a copy of RXTuner magazine... they have an article about the CZ unit. This might be a good time to order a tuning cable.

LAter,

Slavearm

 

Holy crap!!! It's seem like ages since I placed the order in this group buy. They really have to do something about their production schedule or the lack there of.