Very Bag Guy: blackonblackeight
 

This asshole tried to scam me $400 over paypal for some wheels.

The userid blackonblackeight does not exist on rx8club. Any details? Link to thread?

My guess is that the user deleted his part out thread.

It's the same member that tried to scam me a while ago but with a different name. The name associated with his email account was Miguel T something.

I remember seeing that thread!

Well he can't delete his own account.

Weird, closest I could find

https://www.rx8club.com/members/blackonblackrx8-52852/

Read.

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-parts-sale-wanted-44/buyers-sellers-smart-219285/

Yeahhh! that's him, he was selling Konig Lace rims and I sent him the money and he never sent them so we had to contact the police department where he from and we ended up getting our money back.

Did you prosecute?

https://www.rx8club.com/members/blackonblackeight-78195/

^^^ that was the guy. He was fishier than hell when talking business.

I am in the process of buying a part from an individual named Miguel Tirado.
His ID is Mazda Speed2005. The intial paypal was frozen due to suspicious buyer.
He returned the paypal payment since that was all he could do and now wants me to sent payment to another paypal account.
Any suggestions on how not to be scammed.
He could not produce a photo of the part as it was in the mail dock.
I did get a generic photo od an RX-8

Simple way to avoid being scammed in this.


Take your money elsewhere.

No pictures by itself is a no-go on purchase from someone you don't know personally. Add to that suspicious paypal flag, in a thread where he is apparently called out for scamming elsewhere, you would be functionally retarded to try to continue purchasing something from him.

^well said!
Why even consider doing business?

Fool me once.....

wtf, never mind.

How many usernames has this guy had? Have any of them been banned before? I remember a Miguel T ripping people off before.

there honestly has to be something a user has to do before being allowed to sell, provide some sort of id, or use an escrow service or at least have a 100 post count, so people can see the type of posts he makes and try to see a pattern if hes only posting to get his post count up and then selling stuff as soon as he hits 100 posts..

someone told me that mods have the power to ban ip addresses or something like that? if so, just ban his ip address

Same exact guy as stated by op. I remember he gave me and a few other members that exact same response. If they cant prove they have the part, they clearly dont have the part. Simple as not sending anything to a person like that really

It'd be nice if mods could ip ban a person from at least the selling section of the forum...in a perfect world I guess

The Admins can IP ban, the Mods can only username ban.

Admins are scarce around here.... :(

IP bans don't mean squat, because a determined scammer will just use a proxy or some VPN.

beware of Kyle Payne...kpayne804@gmail.com...fluke. I am learning the hard way.

you should start a new thread on that guy...

Done Deal
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...70#post4073170

new rules to sell

-no less the 500 post
-profile pics of you and your car
- facebook address or twitter
-and no less that a year old in the forum as a member

my suggestion ???!!!!

Blackonblack8 was using a cell connection. This goes to a pool of numbers so each time you login, you get a different IP. If the whole pool is banned then other legitimate phone users may hit these banned IP's.
This is correct.

Rules like that will hurt more than help. I only have 470 posts yet have conducted enough transactions to get an iTrader score of 14 with zero negatives, and I've never been scammed. I don't use Farcebook or twitter. Your rules would exclude me, one of the good traders on this forum.

I don't know the answer, but those aren't it. Unfortunately you can't legislate away ignorance. Folks have to educate themselves that there are assholes in the world who want to cheat them. If they choose not to learn the easy way by reading the stickies in the FS forum and the anti-fraud information in Paypal, they will have to learn the hard way.

We should help when and how we can, like when I helped get the asshole this thread is about booted again, and when I posted a big "CAUTION" on a similar FS thread with a new user with zero posts. But ultimately we can't always protect people from their own ignorance.

And when you do get scammed, don't bend over and take it! Fight like hell. VS8 tried to screw me by misrepresenting what he was selling, then refusing to take responsibility or refund my money. It wasn't much money but I started a Bad Guy thread and got my money back, though he never did take responsibility. The astonishing thing was how many people publicly announced in that thread they are willing to bend over and get screwed if the dollar amount is small enough. :dunno: Never do that! Let scammers get away with anything and they'll keep going for bigger payoffs!

at least you can pick them off with username banning.