SCAMMED by Mazsport Scott
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Hi Flow gas pump people have had issues, just go look at Mysql's thread. (others owners have even contacted mysql about having similar issues, he was not along)
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The INT-X is a good option for the esmeril kit as well as JDM spec cars that don't have the Accessport support yet
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I agree that many of you are really being negative, as if Scott is just some con artist looking to screw you out of your money. I got to know Scott fairly well when the Int-x was the hot new toy. He seemed like a real straight up great guy who delivered very high quality parts. I'll admit, they were always pricey, and took forever to ship, but I was always thrilled when they finally arrived. He was also one of the only one's willing to take the risk and push the limits on developing products for the 8.
I'm sorry to see that some shady stuff has transpired, and while I recognize there's two sides to every story, this one doesn't sound good for Mazsport. A similar thing happened at PFS a number of years ago. It was probably the best rx7 shop on the east coast until some similar shady stuff happened. Oddly, it was also where the first decent engine management for the 13B rotary was developed.
In no way am I saying this situation should be forgotten, or forgiven, unless it is made right, but I'm just surprised at how many people are like "Scott sucks and Scott's products have always sucked. Ban Him!" Sorry, but I don't think that's really true.
I'm sorry to see that some shady stuff has transpired, and while I recognize there's two sides to every story, this one doesn't sound good for Mazsport. A similar thing happened at PFS a number of years ago. It was probably the best rx7 shop on the east coast until some similar shady stuff happened. Oddly, it was also where the first decent engine management for the 13B rotary was developed.
In no way am I saying this situation should be forgotten, or forgiven, unless it is made right, but I'm just surprised at how many people are like "Scott sucks and Scott's products have always sucked. Ban Him!" Sorry, but I don't think that's really true.
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The ignition solution did work just fine off the shelf for people running NA. I would know since I used it.
To detract from what he has contributed to the community is just straight up ignorant, period.
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Hey I never said the products are currently the greatest thing out there, but I don't see products from other companies. And yes I forgot about the ignition, another first.
I have no reason to defend Mazsport though because I never bought anything from them. In fact every person/company I've bought something from I posted in the good guy/bad guy forum.
But hoping they go out of business because of this is ridiculous. There have been other vendors who have been blasted on the forum for no reason at all, and others who have dropped the ball and gotten a few pass.
I have no reason to defend Mazsport though because I never bought anything from them. In fact every person/company I've bought something from I posted in the good guy/bad guy forum.
But hoping they go out of business because of this is ridiculous. There have been other vendors who have been blasted on the forum for no reason at all, and others who have dropped the ball and gotten a few pass.
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Those who wish for Mazsport to go away over night remember what they brought to this forum and the RX-8 community.
The interceptor EMS and Hi Flow gas pump are at the top of the list. The interceptor was the first EMS to take full control of fuel and spark. Is there anyone else that sells an off the shelf high flow fuel pump for the RX-8 yet? Scott has also gone out of his way to help some of the forum members here.
I have never bought anything from Mazsport, but everyone is jumping on the hate mazsport train very fast. As I said earlier in this thread, if what is said is true Scott dropped the ball multiple times on this one customer, but he has helped out several others.
Although I think this thread should stay around to give future customers the information they need if they wish to tackle a large project with Mazsport. I think everyone knows by now about the lengthy shipping time.
The interceptor EMS and Hi Flow gas pump are at the top of the list. The interceptor was the first EMS to take full control of fuel and spark. Is there anyone else that sells an off the shelf high flow fuel pump for the RX-8 yet? Scott has also gone out of his way to help some of the forum members here.
I have never bought anything from Mazsport, but everyone is jumping on the hate mazsport train very fast. As I said earlier in this thread, if what is said is true Scott dropped the ball multiple times on this one customer, but he has helped out several others.
Although I think this thread should stay around to give future customers the information they need if they wish to tackle a large project with Mazsport. I think everyone knows by now about the lengthy shipping time.
when you promise a customer a finish date, you better keep your word. simple honesty can make business so much easier. $32000 is totally ******* absurd. mazsport is a total rip off and cannot produce quality products. they advertise all these "great" products and don't even take the time to properly test and fit this stuff.
i for one dealt with scott and the mazsport crew and can vouch for the fact that they do not communicate with you. i sent in a dongle to get flashed for a stock greddy turbo. the price was a bit high, i never got an exact day to get it back, when they shipped it no tracking number was provided, and when i received it, i had no idea if the correct map was even installed. no proof, just an assumption that mazsport did the right thing. well, the car ran like **** and eventually blew my motor.
i gave mazsport another chance by ordering the cai for the turbo. i posted up a review on the product mentioning the wrong clamps that were provided, the terrible fitment of the maf sensor, and they didn't even provide me hardware to bolt the sensor down. another headache for such a simple product.
mysql had issues with mazsport's ignition system...caused his engine to blow
many of you bought that ridiculous midpipe that doesn't fit. you have to place washers to shim the bracket? that's just ghetto fabbing something you spent hundreds of dollars on.
scott is just another peter farrell...
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I think I may have found your greddy turbo kit:
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...4&postcount=18
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...4&postcount=18
If that IS in fact Stick's turbo, you guys need to be VERY careful. Purchasing stolen property and it being shipped across state lines is a crime, even possibly a felony.
Stick is trying to recover his parts and if they end up in someone else's hands, that person could get stuck in the middle of this mess.
If anyone is buying parts from Mazsport these days, I'd want written proof of the origin of the part. Better safe then sorry guys.
#110
Scott chimed in, saying that there are two sides of the same medal. I agree with him not going any further in here, but how can the fact that he sold stick's stuff have two faces? That's just stealing stuff.
I'm curious about the 5 gears transmission too since he stopped posting after a gear\rev chart was posted, showing it to be poor for NA use.
That's not the way to go imho and the poor stick, like mysql and many others are an evidence of that.
I'm curious about the 5 gears transmission too since he stopped posting after a gear\rev chart was posted, showing it to be poor for NA use.
That's not the way to go imho and the poor stick, like mysql and many others are an evidence of that.
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Those who wish for Mazsport to go away over night remember what they brought to this forum and the RX-8 community.
The interceptor EMS and Hi Flow gas pump are at the top of the list. The interceptor was the first EMS to take full control of fuel and spark. Is there anyone else that sells an off the shelf high flow fuel pump for the RX-8 yet? Scott has also gone out of his way to help some of the forum members here.
I have never bought anything from Mazsport, but everyone is jumping on the hate mazsport train very fast. As I said earlier in this thread, if what is said is true Scott dropped the ball multiple times on this one customer, but he has helped out several others.
Although I think this thread should stay around to give future customers the information they need if they wish to tackle a large project with Mazsport. I think everyone knows by now about the lengthy shipping time.
The interceptor EMS and Hi Flow gas pump are at the top of the list. The interceptor was the first EMS to take full control of fuel and spark. Is there anyone else that sells an off the shelf high flow fuel pump for the RX-8 yet? Scott has also gone out of his way to help some of the forum members here.
I have never bought anything from Mazsport, but everyone is jumping on the hate mazsport train very fast. As I said earlier in this thread, if what is said is true Scott dropped the ball multiple times on this one customer, but he has helped out several others.
Although I think this thread should stay around to give future customers the information they need if they wish to tackle a large project with Mazsport. I think everyone knows by now about the lengthy shipping time.
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I agree that many of you are really being negative, as if Scott is just some con artist looking to screw you out of your money. I got to know Scott fairly well when the Int-x was the hot new toy. He seemed like a real straight up great guy who delivered very high quality parts. I'll admit, they were always pricey, and took forever to ship, but I was always thrilled when they finally arrived. He was also one of the only one's willing to take the risk and push the limits on developing products for the 8.
I'm sorry to see that some shady stuff has transpired, and while I recognize there's two sides to every story, this one doesn't sound good for Mazsport. A similar thing happened at PFS a number of years ago. It was probably the best rx7 shop on the east coast until some similar shady stuff happened. Oddly, it was also where the first decent engine management for the 13B rotary was developed.
In no way am I saying this situation should be forgotten, or forgiven, unless it is made right, but I'm just surprised at how many people are like "Scott sucks and Scott's products have always sucked. Ban Him!" Sorry, but I don't think that's really true.
I'm sorry to see that some shady stuff has transpired, and while I recognize there's two sides to every story, this one doesn't sound good for Mazsport. A similar thing happened at PFS a number of years ago. It was probably the best rx7 shop on the east coast until some similar shady stuff happened. Oddly, it was also where the first decent engine management for the 13B rotary was developed.
In no way am I saying this situation should be forgotten, or forgiven, unless it is made right, but I'm just surprised at how many people are like "Scott sucks and Scott's products have always sucked. Ban Him!" Sorry, but I don't think that's really true.
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i know scott has been advised not to come on and say anything but that old saying about building a reputation taking a lifetime and bringing it down in a moment sure can hold true. if there is another side, it had better come out soon or that reputation is gone and any good of the past is quickly forgotten.
#115
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In case this gets deleted from the "Mazsport Evolution" thread...
I'm just curious to know what product Mazsport currently has on the market that would be considered superior to the competition.
I don't mean to stir a rats nest... I'm merely looking at feature/function/price and in all cases I feel like they're falling short.
Midpipe
Ignition (now with the BHR Yukons - ya baby)
Turbo
Management Interceptor vs COBB.
How about some flat out comparisons. I'm game.. hell, I'd even go that route if someone could prove to me it's worth it... keep in mind... I don't have 6 months to wait for something to arrive at my doorstep. I am quite used to instant gratification which I have to say is EXTREMELY lacking this community.
**** poor performance is an understatement.
How does the evolution of the product line and vision solve these issues?
And, please don't confuse my bluntness with trolling. I'm merely calling it like I see it and consider myself a very reasonable and open minded critical thinker.
I don't mean to stir a rats nest... I'm merely looking at feature/function/price and in all cases I feel like they're falling short.
Midpipe
Ignition (now with the BHR Yukons - ya baby)
Turbo
Management Interceptor vs COBB.
How about some flat out comparisons. I'm game.. hell, I'd even go that route if someone could prove to me it's worth it... keep in mind... I don't have 6 months to wait for something to arrive at my doorstep. I am quite used to instant gratification which I have to say is EXTREMELY lacking this community.
**** poor performance is an understatement.
How does the evolution of the product line and vision solve these issues?
And, please don't confuse my bluntness with trolling. I'm merely calling it like I see it and consider myself a very reasonable and open minded critical thinker.
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i knew a guy that ran a shop. awesome guy, but poor business man. at the time he had built some impressive cars and his work showed good quality. people started to recognize his work and business started to come in steadily. well, things started to get outta hand when he started to take in more than he could chew. eventually, he had people threatening him in all sorts of ways and he ended up going out of business. even though scott has been around for awhile, this is what seems like he is doing. he's taking money without finishing work, finishing products, and meanwhile trying to move to a bigger place!!! wait til you're settled in so you can actually handle the work load!!!
when you promise a customer a finish date, you better keep your word. simple honesty can make business so much easier. $32000 is totally ******* absurd. mazsport is a total rip off and cannot produce quality products. they advertise all these "great" products and don't even take the time to properly test and fit this stuff.
i for one dealt with scott and the mazsport crew and can vouch for the fact that they do not communicate with you. i sent in a dongle to get flashed for a stock greddy turbo. the price was a bit high, i never got an exact day to get it back, when they shipped it no tracking number was provided, and when i received it, i had no idea if the correct map was even installed. no proof, just an assumption that mazsport did the right thing. well, the car ran like **** and eventually blew my motor.
i gave mazsport another chance by ordering the cai for the turbo. i posted up a review on the product mentioning the wrong clamps that were provided, the terrible fitment of the maf sensor, and they didn't even provide me hardware to bolt the sensor down. another headache for such a simple product.
mysql had issues with mazsport's ignition system...caused his engine to blow
many of you bought that ridiculous midpipe that doesn't fit. you have to place washers to shim the bracket? that's just ghetto fabbing something you spent hundreds of dollars on.
scott is just another peter farrell...
when you promise a customer a finish date, you better keep your word. simple honesty can make business so much easier. $32000 is totally ******* absurd. mazsport is a total rip off and cannot produce quality products. they advertise all these "great" products and don't even take the time to properly test and fit this stuff.
i for one dealt with scott and the mazsport crew and can vouch for the fact that they do not communicate with you. i sent in a dongle to get flashed for a stock greddy turbo. the price was a bit high, i never got an exact day to get it back, when they shipped it no tracking number was provided, and when i received it, i had no idea if the correct map was even installed. no proof, just an assumption that mazsport did the right thing. well, the car ran like **** and eventually blew my motor.
i gave mazsport another chance by ordering the cai for the turbo. i posted up a review on the product mentioning the wrong clamps that were provided, the terrible fitment of the maf sensor, and they didn't even provide me hardware to bolt the sensor down. another headache for such a simple product.
mysql had issues with mazsport's ignition system...caused his engine to blow
many of you bought that ridiculous midpipe that doesn't fit. you have to place washers to shim the bracket? that's just ghetto fabbing something you spent hundreds of dollars on.
scott is just another peter farrell...
Are the 2 pieces pricey? Yes. Did they take forever to ship? Yes.
However they came as advertised and worked as advertised.
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Not a problem Stealth... just trying to get a feel for the waters.... apparently things are so voliatile that free thinking is being censored in that forum.
I'll take your advise though and steer clear of the paid for forum. I'm assuming I can ask these types of open ended questions here though? If not let me know. Just curious to know at what point free speech ends in a subscription based community.
Shell
I'll take your advise though and steer clear of the paid for forum. I'm assuming I can ask these types of open ended questions here though? If not let me know. Just curious to know at what point free speech ends in a subscription based community.
Shell
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I am not a fanboy of anyone. I am all for making informed decisions. At one of our local meets I pushed the topic of Mazsport when the fuel pump delimma came up. Some of the products they offer there are no over the counter alternatives for at the time of this writing.
But it seems that the ones who sang the highest of praises are now the executioner standing at the guillotine.
Since most who read this haven't read the other comments I made, I am all for Stick taking possible legal action if the situation can't be resolved in a timely manner. But wishing for a company to go away is silly.
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Not a problem Stealth... just trying to get a feel for the waters.... apparently things are so voliatile that free thinking is being censored in that forum.
I'll take your advise though and steer clear of the paid for forum. I'm assuming I can ask these types of open ended questions here though? If not let me know. Just curious to know at what point free speech ends in a subscription based community.
Shell
I'll take your advise though and steer clear of the paid for forum. I'm assuming I can ask these types of open ended questions here though? If not let me know. Just curious to know at what point free speech ends in a subscription based community.
Shell
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i dont think they should have anything revoked from them but fair is fair...they base allot of thier sales from the internet and cant even defend themselves....what does that make you think?......and when a product of thiers fails then they blame it on the user or say it never failed......and when asked for data on testing its promised but never given......they charge exhorbitant prices......the wait is forever on product.....i would love to understand the blind faith people had...oh i hear preaching that they are working so hard for the community....yeah but lining thier pockets something hard core..and when something breaks or happens because of them its never thier fault or problem......that to me sure is an honest crew!
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Yeah, Iran supplies a lot of "good oil" so I think we should put them at the top of our supplier list.
BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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FWIW, they did improve the CAI...I ordered it and I love it, it works great, no installation issues. Their midpipe is one of my favorite mods as well. I love it, even though you have to use spacers...so what? Not a big deal in my book.
Are the 2 pieces pricey? Yes. Did they take forever to ship? Yes.
However they came as advertised and worked as advertised.
Are the 2 pieces pricey? Yes. Did they take forever to ship? Yes.
However they came as advertised and worked as advertised.
spacers?! are you kidding me dude? you're settling for something you paid good money for. something that should fit with OE quality. i bought a brand new Racing Beat race pipe that fit like a glove. the hangers, the flanges, the bolts, the gaskets were all perfect. i didn't have to do anything extra, installed in minutes. that was straight outta the box! i didn't have to modify anything to get it to fit. you paid good money to have a high quality mid pipe but ended up cheapening it by using WASHERS to make a bracket fit. that's like buying those sweet *** Jordan's but it's one size to big. so instead of getting a better fitting shoe, you just wore a couple layers of socks to fit it.
Mazsport is well known in the rotary community. they have done some impressive things in the past. but **** like i mentioned above just brings the name down a bit. then they go and pull some crap like they did to Sticks (not to mention other customers). how do you expect to run a business when you totally robbed them!? $32000 for a custom motor swap? 2 years? that car should've been TOP priority amongst everything else that was going on inside Mazsport. How is it that there are shops in this country that can do a total custom job (i'm talking about, engine, body, suspension, the whole-nine-yards) in a matter of weeks!?!? what Scott has done to Sticks is ******* absurd. Mazsport wouldn't be around if it weren't for their customers, so why is he dicking everyone????
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#124
can i switch sides now?
Sorry but charging that for what he got is horrible. If there is a lack of communication between what things should cost, its something that should have been addressed by the vendor BEFORE starting the job.
Charging to THINK about doing stuff is pretty dumb.
Its part of doing business i mean 30k should have bought and NASTTTTTTTTY rx8 that was world known.
Instead our poor friend gets a half done 8, with a 100% bill +++ some added goodies.
Sorry.
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here is my link: https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/my-mazsport-cai-greddy-turbo-147741/
i'm not one to constantly complain. what happens, happens. just take what you got and try to make the most of it.
...but, that only goes so far.
go get 'em Stick
i'm not one to constantly complain. what happens, happens. just take what you got and try to make the most of it.
...but, that only goes so far.
go get 'em Stick