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08-25-2009, 10:33 AM
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I verified it - LAST YEAR.
Sure, it would be a good idea to protect myself against fraudulent customers such as yourself, but everyone that has received one of these units has enrolled in the Calibration Service and left a paper-trail a mile wide.
You were different. You and I had an open line of communication about "your" turbo kit for months. I trusted you. (Which is a whole other story - want to talk about the payment I never received for your turbo upgrade kit that you ordered? How many "I'm going to the bank today" was I supposed to endure before I accept that you weren't actually going to pay for it?)
At the time, I had no reason to believe you were going to try this on me. I was mistaken.
So, yes - I have no way to verify this transaction now, a year later.
But at that time, you received your unit, I verified it for you with the USPS tracking number and delivery confirmation and that was that.
Its a shame that you are going to hang me out here on a hook just to scam me out of $700, but I guess I am just going to have to endure that at this point.
I'm closing in on 500 units shipped. Every single "complaint" I've received so far - all 4 - has been either a customer error or a scammer such as yourself.
Sure, it would be a good idea to protect myself against fraudulent customers such as yourself, but everyone that has received one of these units has enrolled in the Calibration Service and left a paper-trail a mile wide.
You were different. You and I had an open line of communication about "your" turbo kit for months. I trusted you. (Which is a whole other story - want to talk about the payment I never received for your turbo upgrade kit that you ordered? How many "I'm going to the bank today" was I supposed to endure before I accept that you weren't actually going to pay for it?)
At the time, I had no reason to believe you were going to try this on me. I was mistaken.
So, yes - I have no way to verify this transaction now, a year later.
But at that time, you received your unit, I verified it for you with the USPS tracking number and delivery confirmation and that was that.
Its a shame that you are going to hang me out here on a hook just to scam me out of $700, but I guess I am just going to have to endure that at this point.
I'm closing in on 500 units shipped. Every single "complaint" I've received so far - all 4 - has been either a customer error or a scammer such as yourself.
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08-25-2009, 10:38 AM
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NO YOU DIDN'T! AGAIN! I've never recieved any tracking number from you. I have ask you several times by mail an in the AP thread!!! The turbo is another story, that's right. But we're talking about something I have paid for - th AP!
08-25-2009, 10:48 AM
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I did one mistake. After month without getting anything I wrote him I've wrecked my car (my car feels wonderful) and want the money because I thougt, ok, he never sent it (never got any tracking number from him) so he can just give me my money back and everthing will be ok.
Now, everyone here is thinking I'm not telling the truth, got my AP and just want my money back because I wrecked the car. Again, I've never wrecked it, I just wrote it hoping to get my money back this way because I NEVER got my AP.
After you lied, and admitted it, it's a stretch to believe you waited a year for an AP.
Your credibility is shot and you don't have a figurative leg to stand on.
AFAIK, MM has never ripped anyone off, and your case is so weak that, for me, that record stands unblemished.
Give it up, it's getting old....
Now, everyone here is thinking I'm not telling the truth, got my AP and just want my money back because I wrecked the car. Again, I've never wrecked it, I just wrote it hoping to get my money back this way because I NEVER got my AP.
After you lied, and admitted it, it's a stretch to believe you waited a year for an AP.
Your credibility is shot and you don't have a figurative leg to stand on.
AFAIK, MM has never ripped anyone off, and your case is so weak that, for me, that record stands unblemished.
Give it up, it's getting old....
08-25-2009, 10:55 AM
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I did one mistake. After month without getting anything I wrote him I've wrecked my car (my car feels wonderful) and want the money because I thougt, ok, he never sent it (never got any tracking number from him) so he can just give me my money back and everthing will be ok.
You didn't wreck your car, Mo? You just said that in hopes of getting money out of me?
Holy crap. I didn't even catch that. Thanks, Stealth.
08-25-2009, 10:56 AM
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But it's not my problem you do your paperwork bad. I can still verify I paid after ONE YEAR:
You have to verify it was SHIPPED & RECIEVED.
I've explained why I wrote I've wrecked my car - I want to start this thread with all info.
You have to verify it was SHIPPED & RECIEVED.
I've explained why I wrote I've wrecked my car - I want to start this thread with all info.
Last edited by Kazuma; 08-25-2009 at 11:01 AM.
08-25-2009, 11:06 AM
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I don't "have to" verify anything. I'm telling you how it is gonna be.
The fact is, you waited too long to perpetrate this scam for you to have any real teeth.
And simply trying to make me "look bad" here on the forum is of little value. I'm already perceived as an ******* around here, anyway. Its part of my charm.
I'm still stunned that, in the midst of trying to further this scam, you admitted that your claim:
Hey Jeff,
please send the money back...I've had an accident this morning
...I could cry all day long ......................
please send the money back...I've had an accident this morning
...I could cry all day long ......................
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08-25-2009, 11:08 AM
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No, I don't think you are understanding this.
I don't "have to" verify anything. I'm telling you how it is.
The fact is, you waited too long to perpetrate this scam for you to have any real teeth.
I'm still stunned that, in the midst of trying to further this scam, you admitted that your claim:
was a lie!
I don't "have to" verify anything. I'm telling you how it is.
The fact is, you waited too long to perpetrate this scam for you to have any real teeth.
I'm still stunned that, in the midst of trying to further this scam, you admitted that your claim:
was a lie!
Yes you have to, because you have nothing that verifies you've ever shipped anything - I have!
Last edited by Kazuma; 08-25-2009 at 11:14 AM.
08-25-2009, 11:14 AM
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OP: This is just silly. Even if you paid, and something went wrong on MM's side so he didn't send it (even though he's sure he did), you **** all over your case because you lied to him about a crash instead of just saying "If you haven't sent it yet I'd like to cancel my order". That's the stupidest action I've seen in a long time.
08-25-2009, 11:15 AM
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If you really wanted to perpetrate this properly, you would have done it immediately.
Of course, I would have still had the confirmation at that point, so it wouldn't have worked then, either.
So, this is all just an intellectual exercise.
08-25-2009, 11:22 AM
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No, I don't. Because you have no recourse. Possession is 9/10 of the law and you can't charge-back on me after 3 months past the original transaction date.
If you really wanted to perpetrate this properly, you would have done it immediately.
Of course, I would have still had the confirmation at that point, so it wouldn't have worked then, either.
So, this is all just an intellectual exercise.
If you really wanted to perpetrate this properly, you would have done it immediately.
Of course, I would have still had the confirmation at that point, so it wouldn't have worked then, either.
So, this is all just an intellectual exercise.
03-30-2009, 03:37 PM
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I know but it's different in my case...I paid for...
I know but it's different in my case...I paid for it last year and never got one and Jeff told me to check what happend...
Cheers,
Kazuma.
03-30-2009, 01:58 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Again, 3 weeks without any news...man, please...
Again, 3 weeks without any news...man, please tell me what was going on!
03-09-2009, 05:56 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Any news for me, Jeff?
Any news for me, Jeff?
03-03-2009, 03:00 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU Another week without any news
Another week without any news
02-24-2009, 03:42 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Can you tell me what happened with my AP????
Can you tell me what happened with my AP????
02-24-2009, 09:25 AM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU Any news for me????
Any news for me????
02-18-2009, 02:41 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU ?????
?????
02-15-2009, 11:53 AM
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Posted By Kazuma
Any news???
Any news???
02-13-2009, 03:56 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU That's right! So where is it? Can you check that?...
That's right! So where is it? Can you check that? Is it possible that you never shipped it but thougt you did?
Cheers,
Moe.
02-13-2009, 03:47 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU Jeff, I've never got any unit!!! I'm waiting for...
Jeff, I've never got any unit!!! I'm waiting for since i've paid it...
Cheers,
Moe.
02-13-2009, 03:38 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
A few weeks ago you told me, that you are waiting...
A few weeks ago you told me, that you are waiting for the Euro spec APs. Now you told me, it went out last year...I never got it...
Cheers,
Moe.
02-13-2009, 02:24 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU Moritz Benner from Germany. How can I ask you...
Moritz Benner from Germany. How can I ask you some questions?
Moe.
02-13-2009, 01:48 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Hey Jeff, where is my AP?????
Hey Jeff,
where is my AP?????
01-28-2009, 10:48 AM
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Posted By Kazuma
Any news???
Any news???
01-22-2009, 10:24 AM
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Posted By Kazuma
Where's my AP Jeff??????????????????????????
Where's my AP Jeff??????????????????????????
12-11-2008, 03:54 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Paid both money requests (16.09. & 30.09.). After...
Paid both money requests (16.09. & 30.09.). After that I didn't recieve anything from you...Did I something wrong?
Please try pcmtech@tnc-import.com...
12-11-2008, 03:44 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
I received nothing ...no AP and no emails from...
I received nothing ...no AP and no emails from you ...I have paid them both...
12-11-2008, 03:29 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Moritz Benner (moritzbenner @ aol . com)
Moritz Benner (moritzbenner @ aol . com)
12-11-2008, 02:39 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
You still have my money...please send it back or...
You still have my money...please send it back or send me an EUDM AP for 06 FI!
06-24-2008, 05:27 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Hey Jeff, do you konw my shipping cost now???...
Hey Jeff,
do you konw my shipping cost now??? Want to send you money ...
Cheers,
Moe.
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Posted By Kazuma
I know but it's different in my case...I paid for...
I know but it's different in my case...I paid for it last year and never got one and Jeff told me to check what happend...
Cheers,
Kazuma.
03-30-2009, 01:58 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Again, 3 weeks without any news...man, please...
Again, 3 weeks without any news...man, please tell me what was going on!
03-09-2009, 05:56 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Any news for me, Jeff?
Any news for me, Jeff?
03-03-2009, 03:00 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU Another week without any news
Another week without any news
02-24-2009, 03:42 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Can you tell me what happened with my AP????
Can you tell me what happened with my AP????
02-24-2009, 09:25 AM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU Any news for me????
Any news for me????
02-18-2009, 02:41 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU ?????
?????
02-15-2009, 11:53 AM
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Posted By Kazuma
Any news???
Any news???
02-13-2009, 03:56 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU That's right! So where is it? Can you check that?...
That's right! So where is it? Can you check that? Is it possible that you never shipped it but thougt you did?
Cheers,
Moe.
02-13-2009, 03:47 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU Jeff, I've never got any unit!!! I'm waiting for...
Jeff, I've never got any unit!!! I'm waiting for since i've paid it...
Cheers,
Moe.
02-13-2009, 03:38 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
A few weeks ago you told me, that you are waiting...
A few weeks ago you told me, that you are waiting for the Euro spec APs. Now you told me, it went out last year...I never got it...
Cheers,
Moe.
02-13-2009, 02:24 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU Moritz Benner from Germany. How can I ask you...
Moritz Benner from Germany. How can I ask you some questions?
Moe.
02-13-2009, 01:48 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Hey Jeff, where is my AP?????
Hey Jeff,
where is my AP?????
01-28-2009, 10:48 AM
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Posted By Kazuma
Any news???
Any news???
01-22-2009, 10:24 AM
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Posted By Kazuma
Where's my AP Jeff??????????????????????????
Where's my AP Jeff??????????????????????????
12-11-2008, 03:54 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Paid both money requests (16.09. & 30.09.). After...
Paid both money requests (16.09. & 30.09.). After that I didn't recieve anything from you...Did I something wrong?
Please try pcmtech@tnc-import.com...
12-11-2008, 03:44 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
I received nothing ...no AP and no emails from...
I received nothing ...no AP and no emails from you ...I have paid them both...
12-11-2008, 03:29 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Moritz Benner (moritzbenner @ aol . com)
Moritz Benner (moritzbenner @ aol . com)
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Posted By Kazuma
You still have my money...please send it back or...
You still have my money...please send it back or send me an EUDM AP for 06 FI!
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Posted By Kazuma
Hey Jeff, do you konw my shipping cost now???...
Hey Jeff,
do you konw my shipping cost now??? Want to send you money ...
Cheers,
Moe.
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08-25-2009, 12:51 PM
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I think everyone is being kinda hard on the OP without reading the entire thread. Looks to me like he has tried to stay in contact and has had vague response. Makes sense to me that if he wrecked his car and no longer needed it shipped to him that he would just ask for the money back instead.
08-25-2009, 12:58 PM
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Has there been any consideration to the idea that (other than the OP's original lie of wrecking), both sides might be telling the truth? Lost in shipment, stolen off the front porch, accidental typo in the address, etc...
Unlikely, but possible, especially considering the distance and change of countries, etc...
Unlikely, but possible, especially considering the distance and change of countries, etc...
08-25-2009, 01:03 PM
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Has there been any consideration to the idea that (other than the OP's original lie of wrecking), both sides might be telling the truth? Lost in shipment, stolen off the front porch, accidental typo in the address, etc...
Unlikely, but possible, especially considering the distance and change of countries, etc...
Unlikely, but possible, especially considering the distance and change of countries, etc...
I just want to work out what happened to find a solution. If it was shipped it has to be somewhere. All I can say is that I never got my AP...Perhaps Jeff can speak with UPS or something like this...
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08-25-2009, 01:30 PM
#41
here's an example of usps monitoring service of a package sent to EU:
Detailed Results:
Delivered Abroad, August 18, 2009, 11:50 am, POLAND
Attempted Delivery Abroad, August 17, 2009, 6:30 pm, POLAND
Into Foreign Customs, August 10, 2009, 4:18 pm, POLAND
Arrived Abroad, August 10, 2009, 1:35 pm, POLAND
International Dispatch, August 07, 2009, 5:38 pm, ISC SAN FRANCISCO (USPS)
Arrival
Electronic Shipping Info Received, August 06, 2009
Processed through Sort Facility, August 06, 2009, 7:24 pm, WEST SACRAMENTO, CA 95799
Delivered Abroad, August 18, 2009, 11:50 am, POLAND
Attempted Delivery Abroad, August 17, 2009, 6:30 pm, POLAND
Into Foreign Customs, August 10, 2009, 4:18 pm, POLAND
Arrived Abroad, August 10, 2009, 1:35 pm, POLAND
International Dispatch, August 07, 2009, 5:38 pm, ISC SAN FRANCISCO (USPS)
Arrival
Electronic Shipping Info Received, August 06, 2009
Processed through Sort Facility, August 06, 2009, 7:24 pm, WEST SACRAMENTO, CA 95799
08-25-2009, 01:44 PM
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I'm not defending either side. Just trying to note that if the package was shipped, and was delivered to his doorstep while he was at work, and someone stole it from his porch (or a delivery driver stole it, or the truck crashed in the river and was swept away, address had a typo but was still valid like a different number on the same street, etc...), then MM would be 100% truthful in saying he shipped it, and the OP would be 100% truthful in saying he never received it.
I admit is isn't common, but certainly possible. It's happened to me, and one of the constant headaches I deal with at work involves situations just like this. The financial responsibility would still be on the OP, not on MM, and the OP still heavily damaged his reputation by lying about the wreck, but both parties could be telling the truth. That email chain could be faked up of course, but each side certainly is putting forth a fair amount of work backing up their stories, so...just saying.
I admit is isn't common, but certainly possible. It's happened to me, and one of the constant headaches I deal with at work involves situations just like this. The financial responsibility would still be on the OP, not on MM, and the OP still heavily damaged his reputation by lying about the wreck, but both parties could be telling the truth. That email chain could be faked up of course, but each side certainly is putting forth a fair amount of work backing up their stories, so...just saying.
08-25-2009, 01:51 PM
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I'm not defending either side. Just trying to note that if the package was shipped, and was delivered to his doorstep while he was at work, and someone stole it from his porch (or a delivery driver stole it, or the truck crashed in the river and was swept away, address had a typo but was still valid like a different number on the same street, etc...), then MM would be 100% truthful in saying he shipped it, and the OP would be 100% truthful in saying he never received it.
No matter the case, I think these threads have gone far enough. A year after the fact is not the time to argue it.
08-26-2009, 02:09 AM
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MM says that he only got rid of old paperwork from _confirmed_ shipped items though, or that's what I understood.
They might both be telling the truth, but lies doesn't help. And I remember Kazuma asking in the other thread, but that's from March 2009, I think I'd ask a bit sooner if I ordered an AP in September.
They might both be telling the truth, but lies doesn't help. And I remember Kazuma asking in the other thread, but that's from March 2009, I think I'd ask a bit sooner if I ordered an AP in September.
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08-26-2009, 05:00 AM
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i agree it took a long time for a claim.but i dont understand why mm didnt send the shipping confirmation number when the op start asking for it. next time buy from another seller like fluid = good service for what i read.
08-26-2009, 05:08 AM
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The fact is that i can vouch in, in that regard, for dozens of italians that rely on his tuning service and sale program.
Problems do happen, let's make it clear, but Jeff managed to solve serious issues here even with his usual long waits.
We often forget individual cases and try to make a general conclusion from bad situations imho.
I don't know who is to blame here and i sincerely don't care.
Problems do happen, let's make it clear, but Jeff managed to solve serious issues here even with his usual long waits.
We often forget individual cases and try to make a general conclusion from bad situations imho.
I don't know who is to blame here and i sincerely don't care.
08-26-2009, 09:03 AM
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Posted By Kazuma
I received nothing ...no AP and no emails from...
I received nothing ...no AP and no emails from you ...I have paid them both...
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I received nothing ...no AP and no emails from...
I received nothing ...no AP and no emails from you ...I have paid them both...
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08-26-2009, 10:51 AM
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