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SilverHokie 06-03-2010 12:57 PM

BAD GUY: EVO-R Motorsports - Jay
 
I really hate to do this but this has gone on long enough. Jay from Evo-R sold me a Carbon Fiber RX-8 front lip on March 26th with a promised shipping date of April 16th. It is STILL not here and NOW he will not communicate with me at all after about 7 e-mails. I have asked him several times to update me or send me a refund and now he won't respond. I please ask that NONE of your purchase his products until he is found to be responsive.

If anyone knows him personally and has a way to contact him please let me know. I feel as though I am about to be $459 out of luck and I am willing to go to whatever lengths to retrieve even a portion of that money.

A quick note: I have purchased to evo-r rear trunk lip for my car from him a year or so ago, and received it just fine. So...I don't know what this guy is doing.

Thanks again and I hope this doesn't happen to you.

Anthony R.

Krazed_Rx8 06-03-2010 03:07 PM

Damn that sucks dude. Keep us updated, GL

RX8YA 06-03-2010 03:50 PM

^ I ordered the CF gauge pod from him awhile back it took maybe 3 or 4 emails to get a response the product comes from overseas so it took awhile and i think he just has no control over the other end i eventually got the product after talking about a refund and possible paypal dispute because it was almost 30 days. He threw in some little spirit r decals which was nice but i really just wanted my pod. I think you will get the product it just takes wayyyyy to long and he has no control and doesnt have a good answer so he doesnt which is silly also because communication is better then not answering.

shakeyourbrakes 06-03-2010 06:33 PM

Pm'd man, I'll help you.. I was in a similar situation

SilverHokie 06-04-2010 07:33 AM

Damn. Glad I'm not the only one. Sent him those e-mails and now waiting for a response. Moving over to rx7club as well to drop the info. Like I said, I did order his trunk lip, which I love btw, and that was super fast. He did tell me he was talking with the manufacturer, but he needs to keep the customer that paid $470 updated once and a while.

Thanks for the responses and PMs fellas.

9krpmrx8 06-04-2010 10:02 PM

Sorry dude, I just won a paypal dispute on items I never received from another vendor. I don't know WTF is up with shitty as vendors lately.

nuke0907 06-04-2010 10:49 PM

i have seen threads like these for this vendor before. i think it is because people order things that are not in stock. i'd recommend to anyone ordering from Evo-R PM Jay before ordering to make sure the item is actually in stock.

Wind Dance 06-05-2010 06:35 AM

I think Jay doesn't stock enough items or something. just guessing. Mine took awhile as well. But personally i think the wait is worth it i mean your getting a replica that actually fits very well, which also going to arrive faster than the real one from Japan.

SilverHokie 06-05-2010 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Wind Dance (Post 3586642)
I think Jay doesn't stock enough items or something. just guessing. Mine took awhile as well. But personally i think the wait is worth it i mean your getting a replica that actually fits very well, which also going to arrive faster than the real one from Japan.

Absolutely. I agree with this 100%. I think it's more than worth it. I just wanted to know where we stand as far as the order goes, and just basic communication. If this was a $60 order, I could wait forever, but $500, man...I could be using that for something else.

To Nuke - Yeah, I figured that was the issue, but he sent an e-mailed with a shipping date of April 16th. Why would anyone do that?

Wind Dance 06-06-2010 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by SilverHokie (Post 3586702)
Absolutely. I agree with this 100%. I think it's more than worth it. I just wanted to know where we stand as far as the order goes, and just basic communication. If this was a $60 order, I could wait forever, but $500, man...I could be using that for something else.

To Nuke - Yeah, I figured that was the issue, but he sent an e-mailed with a shipping date of April 16th. Why would anyone do that?

I understand where you're coming from. It is kind of weird how his business is ran. I met him in person before can't say he's a bad person i guess.:scratchhe

SilverHokie 06-07-2010 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Wind Dance (Post 3587690)
I understand where you're coming from. It is kind of weird how his business is ran. I met him in person before can't say he's a bad person i guess.:scratchhe

Hit him up for me and be like "Hey man, Anthony wants to know about his lip." I know the guy is still around, I wonder if any of the members on here would be able to contact him.

Anybody up for trying? I got his e-mail and everything. He never answers the phone so I never try.

Jay Shieh - jay@evo-r.net

Lunacy 06-07-2010 01:29 PM

I bought eyelids from him before. Had to email him a couple times reminding him to get them painted. Got them a couple weeks later than predicted.

RX8YA 06-07-2010 02:50 PM

Yeah I dont think hes a bad guy or a shitty vendor he could just use better communication i figured it wasnt in stock i think it even said it wasnt on his listing but he gave me a shipping date which ended up being alot later. The product is awesome just needs better communication.

SilverHokie 06-07-2010 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by RX8YA (Post 3589201)
Yeah I dont think hes a bad guy or a shitty vendor he could just use better communication i figured it wasnt in stock i think it even said it wasnt on his listing but he gave me a shipping date which ended up being alot later. The product is awesome just needs better communication.

Right now, we are at ZERO communication. I have dealt with bad communication before, this flat out feels like $500 down the drain. No excuse. I'm a pretty busy person myself, but if I was running a business on the side, I'd sit down and answer some e-mails.

TeamRX8 06-07-2010 08:01 PM

The problem here is obvious; Jay has the completely wrong attitude about dealing with stuff like this ....

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=164 :rofl:


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yomomspimp06 06-07-2010 09:14 PM

i think you're confusing jeff with jay?

TeamRX8 06-07-2010 11:32 PM

I think you're confusing sarcastic humor for serious bizness :squint:

SilverHokie 06-17-2010 07:59 AM

Update
 
I e-mailed him the other day using my g-mail account instead of my Virginia Tech account just in hopes that it would catch his eye. Behold, A RESPONSE!!!! It's only fair to update this thread with his response so you guys can make your own opinions of the situation.

"Anthony,

I have not ship out the lip yet. Cuz I'm suppose to get 5 sets in this week. Once in I'll ship out ASAP. Thanks!

Jay S

EVo-R INC."

There you go...I'll keep you updated if he sends me a tracking number or if it shows up at my door.

9krpmrx8 06-17-2010 11:50 AM

Wtf.

08blue6r 06-17-2010 03:57 PM

Well hopefully he gets 5 sets cause I also ordered one well, today.

SilverHokie 06-19-2010 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by 08blue6r (Post 3604661)
Well hopefully he gets 5 sets cause I also ordered one well, today.

Has he contacted you directly after the order? If so, please update this thread with his response to see if it matches.

08blue6r 06-19-2010 03:59 PM

i emailed him to make sure he recieved the order and he emailed me back within 40 minutes. he said he should have them in stock next week ready to ship

SilverHokie 06-23-2010 01:21 PM

Thanks for the info and PM blur. Let me know if you get that lip before I do. Cause I'll want to get that shipping code so I can drive and get it myself.

08blue6r 06-24-2010 01:19 PM

Have you heard anything?

SilverHokie 06-24-2010 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by 08blue6r (Post 3613102)
Have you heard anything?

No sir. I was hoping he would get these shipped out Friday or Saturday. I've waited 3 months already so I'm pretty numb right now.

08blue6r 06-24-2010 06:16 PM

he probly spent our hard earned money on booze...

TeamRX8 06-24-2010 10:00 PM

If you had even bothered to check it would be clear that this is a common situation for this vendor. He is overseas and has his parts made over there as well. If it's in stock with him you can usually get it quickly, otherwise you can expect to wait.

I've never bought anything from him and even I know this. Why is it you don't?

08blue6r 06-24-2010 10:20 PM

Well for one I was joking. And I didn't read anything on the good guy/bad guy till after I ordered it.

Silverhokie, he emailed me back. It said. "they have not came in yet"

TeamRX8 06-24-2010 10:26 PM

I meant "you" in general, not you specifically :)

RX8YA 07-07-2010 08:17 AM

Anyone get their stuff yet?

08blue6r 07-07-2010 10:00 AM

nope. he hasnt emailed me back in over a week after sending multiple emails

SilverHokie 07-07-2010 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by 08blue6r (Post 3626055)
nope. he hasnt emailed me back in over a week after sending multiple emails

He hasn't contacted either of us. I did use a nice trick the last time and e-mailed him from one of my OTHER e-mail addresses. I think after a certain amount of e-mails, he either ignores you or blocks you.

Whatever happened, he straight up lied. This once again gives me little hope of getting this lip on my car during these prime summer days. It's killing me...no one should be buying from this guy until SOMEBODY on this board reports they have received ANYTHING from him in the past two months or so.

Race Roots 07-07-2010 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by SilverHokie (Post 3626124)
He hasn't contacted either of us. I did use a nice trick the last time and e-mailed him from one of my OTHER e-mail addresses. I think after a certain amount of e-mails, he either ignores you or blocks you.

Whatever happened, he straight up lied. This once again gives me little hope of getting this lip on my car during these prime summer days. It's killing me...no one should be buying from this guy until SOMEBODY on this board reports they have received ANYTHING from him in the past two months or so.

I got my wholesale order from him right about when you posted about your issues. The only thing I can think of is that it is taking forever to have them made. I waited about 2 months (maybe longer maybe sooner I have no concept of time anymore) for some custom endlinks I wanted made but I got them but communication was a bit slow.

It happens I know being patient isnt the easiest thing sometimes. In the end it sometimes feels redundant saying he is still waiting for them to be made which either way the customer still feels let down.

TeamRX8 07-08-2010 09:03 AM

To the best of my knowledge he's never stiffed anyone.

You can have daily make-work emails "do you have it yet - no still waiting" or you can wait and be told when it's ready to ship. In the end it's the same result.

SilverHokie 07-08-2010 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 3627360)
To the best of my knowledge he's never stiffed anyone.

You can have daily make-work emails "do you have it yet - no still waiting" or you can wait and be told when it's ready to ship. In the end it's the same result.

This is for another person's benefit not mine...and your avatar makes it hard to sleep at night.

08blue6r 07-09-2010 10:53 AM

i emailed him multiple times and told him i just wanted my money back that i dont even want the lip anymore, and he finally emailed me back yesterday saying, and i quote, "sorry could get them i non time. ill refund you now"

still havent got the refund though

nuke0907 07-09-2010 11:12 AM

thats what happens when you order stuff thats not in stock. you just have to wait or not order unless its in stock.

i ordered the same exact lip from the same guy and got it in 2 days from overseas.

my advice is to contact him before buying anything to make sure it is in stock and to avoid this from happening.

08blue6r 07-09-2010 11:24 AM

its not the fact that i have to wait i just dont like being lied to about when something is supposed to come in

SilverHokie 07-09-2010 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by nuke0907 (Post 3628784)
thats what happens when you order stuff thats not in stock. you just have to wait or not order unless its in stock.

i ordered the same exact lip from the same guy and got it in 2 days from overseas.

my advice is to contact him before buying anything to make sure it is in stock and to avoid this from happening.

I can haz yours?

08blue6r 07-14-2010 09:53 PM

hey did you ever get your lip? i got a refund just checkin to see if you get it or not

fd3s777 07-14-2010 11:17 PM

Sorry guys. I'm always here on the forum. Just saw this thread. Max you did get your refund on the lip. Anthony, the lip never came in from factory. I have cancelled 2 of the, hoping tthey can make 3 faster. I do have one on my OEM bumper, since I change my front to AUTOEXE front. Like other says this lip fits perfect and all people who had it love it. If I do have in stock I would have shipped next day. But when its out of my control I can just push the factory everyday. Anthony I an refund you if you like and I'll post here once they come in. Let me know. - Jay

SilverHokie 07-15-2010 09:30 AM

Thank you for the response Jay. I sent you a PM. I am extremely pleased you responded. Are you offering to sell me the lip you have on your old bumper? If so, could you send me pics and a price of the used one? Thanks again for responding.

This thread is officially a success story.

fd3s777 07-15-2010 11:19 PM

I'll take a photo tomorrow.

Munchy 07-20-2010 06:47 PM

if you're selling a used EVO-R lip for cheaper, let me know! im so close to ordering the ShineAuto one but I really prefer the Type I Burnout lip.

(that's if SilverHokie passes on it)

SilverHokie 07-21-2010 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Munchy (Post 3642061)
if you're selling a used EVO-R lip for cheaper, let me know! im so close to ordering the ShineAuto one but I really prefer the Type I Burnout lip.

(that's if SilverHokie passes on it)

:naughty:

SilverHokie 07-21-2010 01:31 PM

Jay, are you around. I have not heard back from you about the photo or how much it would cost? Please respond to this thread or PM.

fd3s777 07-22-2010 02:19 AM

Your lip came in! man this time quality is even better than old one. CF cover on the inner center section and bottom all the way! Its going out tomorrow. Check you email for FEDEX tracking. Like others said, its worth the wait.
https://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5305/cannon030.jpg
https://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6146/cannon031.jpg

SilverHokie 07-22-2010 09:33 AM

This...is...beautiful!!!

EDIT: I looked at the shipping and did not realize that you are located in TAIWAN. I thought you were located in New York. That explains some things...

Munchy 07-22-2010 10:12 PM

now how about that used one? lol

SilverHokie 07-22-2010 10:54 PM

I think he ordered like 3 of those.


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