DailyDriver2k5

Click here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZlGMX8G3B4

greg985

lol

"only one word comes to mind....Drag race"

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

cuz you need so much skills to do straight line acceleration

Rotary Mike

That's a sweet video. I love the you tube fights. Hell, I am sure there will be fights on here about these cars.

CyberPitz

Of course the poor GTR lost horribly. He was like 50 HP lower than the next to last HP guy...and, what, 200 HP lower than the ZR1!?

Oh well, fun to watch anyway.

JRichter

Skills or no skills I don't care who are, a straight-line acceleration run in any one of these cars would not be boring (except maybe in the GTR). Imagine how entertaining this same race would be on frozen lake bed.

Rotr8

iTrader: (2)

Yeah the ZR1 is pure evil-wicked If I were to get one it would def be in charchoal

DailyDriver2k5

I don't think its more skill in the racing than it is in the launch. Launching is the hard part, that is what breaks or makes a drag race in a rx-8. Speaking from experience...

Once you nail a perfect launch, just shift correctly, and let the engine do the rest.

bse50

Judging cars from their straight line performance is useless but...
did you notice how tight was the 599gtb to the first 2 cars? all that being NA and this means advantages on "non-straights" aka windy roads and tracks.
The zr1 is simply stunning.

devildog1679

GM really did their research on this one. It looks like Godzilla is no more, at least it still has it's place in the 70K marketplace. Though it's only competitor their is the Z06 which is right on its tail. First the ZR-1 and soon the Camaro, WOW GM is trying to step up their game.

DailyDriver2k5

Yes I agree, the 599 is the total package, it just doesn't make sense to pay over 200k for that total package IMO. I know everybody will throw in its Ferrari, its hand built, it has heritage yada, yada , yada... but it definitely raises the question, why am I paying so much , and what am I paying so much for when clearly a car that cost 150k less has so much more performance to offer over the 599.

I love Ferrari's like the next guy, but even Ferrari has to looks at there cars and say ya know, if a lesser quality car maker can make a car for much less and still perform like our top of the line car,and cost less... something is terribly wrong here.

Acura changed the game back in the 90s with NSX, it forced Ferrari, Porcshe and Lambo to build reliable exotic cars, I wonder if Chevy will have the same effect on these brands to build exotic cars for not such a high price tag, because at the end of the day , what are you really paying for?Name, status, heritage,etc ???

Lets face it people, the only thing that the 599 has over the ZR-1 is its interior quality. Gm could easily beef up the interior to exotic status. Then what? GM has already trumped them in all performance areas, heritage is already covered with the Vette's history, whats left after GM refines there Interior. Only thing GM can do is make a specialty Vette like the way Ferrari and Porsche have there specialty cars like the Enzo and Porsche GT.

bse50

Couldn't be more inexact than that.
Ferrari has superior handling, engine response, gearbox, suspension AND then interiors.
I already stated that raw acceleration means nothing since an old elise s1 will outrun every rx8.
To understand that you should drive these cars

DailyDriver2k5

You must have never driven a Z-06, or for that matter any Corvette, Corvette has all those basis covered. Ferrari are not the all end be end to the automotive world.

There is a reason why Ferraris are in the GT2 class , and the Corvettes are in the GT1 class in the ALMS. And it not because the Corvettes have brute HP.

bse50

it's called engine displacement and yes, i drove a '07 z-06. You probably don't know what kind of problems they had on 'vettes during Wet tests.

Rotary Mike

More expensive and exotic does not equal 'superior'. Where do you get these facts from? Cause they run in F1 it must be better?

The ZR-1 beats all current ferrari's at acceleration, handling, braking, mileage, price......

DailyDriver2k5

And show me a race car that can handle in the rain and won't have problems? From the P1 Class all the way down to the Gram Am series and everything in between.

Thats part of the equation the engine displacement, Ferrari could easily have entered the GT1 class, they opted not to along with Porsche. But that is besided the point, Corvettes handle on the optimum range as Ferrari's do, you can be in disbelief until you turn blue in the face, the proof is out there.

Ferrari once held that crown as a handeling King, that crown is now passed onto Chevy.

bse50

Did you ever drive a z060\zr1 and a 599 gtb or a f430 scuderia? I know you americans aren't used to mid engines\small displacements but..
And yes, the price is excessive but it's not just a matter of heritage, it's called chassis and technical development. Ferrari shares interior parts with fiat cars, american cars share many other components (transmissions etc) making them copy\paste stuff just like Audi\Vw\Lamborghini etc.
But again, you need to drive this kind of cars to make comparisons that go beyond the price\performance equation.

Rotary Mike

Hey, I'm Canadian. Don't make me call you sicilian! And I drive a very small displacemnt RX-8 so I am used to small engines.

I did drive a Z-06, but they wouldn't give me the keys to a Ferrari when I was at the dealership. I've heard that the ZR-1 is a much more managable animal to drive compared to the Z06

There is no question Ferarri makes the better all around car, that is why it costs twice as much. However, it is a slower car on the track.

bse50

It actually depends on the model and on the settings. If you go to a dealership you will be full of options to chose from.
I mean, there was a time where they were remapping the Enzos from the factory
The fact is that this will bring the price tag up even further, not having carboceramic brakes from the factory, at that price IS a steal. Anyway... with a couple of the options you can pick from, and the controls set to full off they become track cars none the less.
I'd rather go for a Scuderia than for a 599 though.
Btw i didn't mean to offend you guys but different countries have different traditions, even talking about motors and motorsports.
Nobody in italy would like a 500miles race around an oval!

Rotary Mike

The F430 is far superior to the 599......unless you are an old man want a GT to cruise in.

bse50

and, to my surpise is even more streetable than the 360 challenge!

DailyDriver2k5

What are you talking about?! I am a American , and I love circuit racing just as many of us in this country do . If you knew anything about the ALMS , which its obvious you have no knowledge of, that series is all circuit tracks with grueling turns, hairpins,s-curves, blind corners,switch backs etc. , just like the Gran Am series, Koni Sports car series, etc. Not everybody here are Nascar fans.
Here in America we have Sports Car enthusiast who love nothing but curvy tracks as you Italians.

And as far as driven the Z-06 comment, what is that in my sig? Its sure not a Ferrari.....

Trust me , I have rode in a Ferrari 355, great car, handels superb, I am sure its not like the F430,Scudera or the 599, but it wasn't amazing as many people make it out to be. A C5 Corvette was just as potent as a 355 IMO.

bse50

As i said, that was the "sarcastic" part, no offense intended.
F355\360 are the worst ferraris in that segment that were ever built in Maranello and as far as we're talking about power you're right but on a track you have to consider multiple laps pace as much as the fast lap.
Different cars for different uses, i don't doubt that on a fast fast track the corvette would do great numbers

JRichter

Don't assume all Americans like or watch this ****. Lots of other race types going on in this country with very little world wide coverage. I can't think of anyone I know personally that watches, follows, or likes Nascar.

Rotary Mike

In Canada, when it gets to cold to use our road courses, we switch over to this

http://www.casc.on.ca/iceRacing.php