would you buy a 3 rotor renesis rx-8 for $30,000 to $32,000
09-04-2006, 11:29 PM
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What would better gas mileage mean?
22/28?
If so, with 300 whp?
If thats the case, you are saving about 20% in fuel costs which would be roughly $400 a year, figuring you fill up once a week.
The car would pay the extra cost off in 10 years...
Personally when im in the market, for an extra 4 g's, more power and 20% better mpg, Def
22/28?
If so, with 300 whp?
If thats the case, you are saving about 20% in fuel costs which would be roughly $400 a year, figuring you fill up once a week.
The car would pay the extra cost off in 10 years...
Personally when im in the market, for an extra 4 g's, more power and 20% better mpg, Def
09-05-2006, 12:52 AM
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Haha, yea, I'm a major troll. Sorry, but when my engine failed at 5,600 miles and then they issue that big of a recall, why should I still support the car? If I am going to spend that kind of money on a car, I want it to do its sole purpose.
Sorry that you disagree with that. By the way, just because someone disagrees with you, that doesn't mean they are a troll. I thought this was a place to discuss cars, not make any excuse to why the RX-8 is the greatest car ever produced.
Don't be so sensitive when someone voices their opinion.
Sorry that you disagree with that. By the way, just because someone disagrees with you, that doesn't mean they are a troll. I thought this was a place to discuss cars, not make any excuse to why the RX-8 is the greatest car ever produced.
Don't be so sensitive when someone voices their opinion.
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09-05-2006, 01:25 AM
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hey man sorry that you had a bad engine. i dont think the recall thing is that bad but who knows. i know you dont have to support the car and i know youre just messing around
by the way like your new car, especially with the fastest color of all.
by the way like your new car, especially with the fastest color of all.
09-05-2006, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by nzarnow
Haha, yea, I'm a major troll. Sorry, but when my engine failed at 5,600 miles and then they issue that big of a recall, why should I still support the car? If I am going to spend that kind of money on a car, I want it to do its sole purpose.
Sorry that you disagree with that. By the way, just because someone disagrees with you, that doesn't mean they are a troll. I thought this was a place to discuss cars, not make any excuse to why the RX-8 is the greatest car ever produced.
Don't be so sensitive when someone voices their opinion.
Sorry that you disagree with that. By the way, just because someone disagrees with you, that doesn't mean they are a troll. I thought this was a place to discuss cars, not make any excuse to why the RX-8 is the greatest car ever produced.
Don't be so sensitive when someone voices their opinion.
09-05-2006, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Digital_Damage
It would have to be a complete redo. If that is the case I don't think it would be a
Renesis anymore. Namely because of the intake and exaust ports the center rotor would starve.
Renesis anymore. Namely because of the intake and exaust ports the center rotor would starve.
please remember this was a hypotetical cuestion, im sure mazda will take the easy way out ant turbo or supercharge a 4 port engine.
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09-05-2006, 10:08 AM
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My only hopes for the possibilty of another production 3 rotor is because race teams need a current production engine to qualify for a series.
09-05-2006, 02:12 PM
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I think mazda could do it, built a limitted production 3 rotor rx-8 10,000 or 20,000 units, base car, large brakes, stiff suspension, and some cosmetic shanges.
limitted warranty like 2 years or 25,000 miles.
limitted warranty like 2 years or 25,000 miles.
09-05-2006, 04:59 PM
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HELL YA!! I WOULD! I WAS GONNA BUT DOWN A DEPOSIT ON THE NEW Z28, BUT IF THIS WILL HAPPEN!!! ooohhhh two awesome car, two awesome engines! even if the Z does have 100 more hp and gets better gas milage i may have to go with the 20b
tlovr out
tlovr out
09-05-2006, 05:24 PM
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well i know one will happen for sure in 2 1/2 long yrs, the camaro is being built in oshawa production starts in late 2008. a 20b in a production car! i would sooner get shot 7 times and live like 50cent. but are we not all speaking theoretically here?
09-06-2006, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Digital_Damage
OMG! This was the same statement I made about your lazyboy with wheels and got bashed for it. Hypocrits.
Personally, I would much rather have a comfortable seat that is good for racing as a uncomfortable seat that is good for racing.
09-06-2006, 08:47 PM
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Dude, just make a really good SUPERCHARGER KIT for the present RX-8 for $5,000 dollars OR LESS and can get you around 300 HP (basically get that puppy to do 5 second 0-60). Have Mazdaspeed endorse and give a warranty with and call it done.
I have no idea why Mazda has not thought of this before.
I don't see how it would be practical at this point to do a 3 rotor renesis without a re-design to pass emission laws and get decent gas mileage or a major intensive upgrade, costing major cash. Maybe for the "RX-9" in 2010, they will make a 3 rotor...
I have no idea why Mazda has not thought of this before.
I don't see how it would be practical at this point to do a 3 rotor renesis without a re-design to pass emission laws and get decent gas mileage or a major intensive upgrade, costing major cash. Maybe for the "RX-9" in 2010, they will make a 3 rotor...
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09-06-2006, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sosonic
Dude, just make a really good SUPERCHARGER KIT for the present RX-8 for $5,000 dollars OR LESS and can get you around 300 HP (basically get that puppy to do 5 second 0-60). Have Mazdaspeed endorse and give a warranty with and call it done.
I have no idea why Mazda has not thought of this before.
I don't see how it would be practical at this point to do a 3 rotor renesis without a re-design to pass emission laws and get decent gas mileage or a major intensive upgrade, costing major cash.
I have no idea why Mazda has not thought of this before.
I don't see how it would be practical at this point to do a 3 rotor renesis without a re-design to pass emission laws and get decent gas mileage or a major intensive upgrade, costing major cash.
Originally Posted by Red Devil
My only hopes for the possibilty of another production 3 rotor is because race teams need a current production engine to qualify for a series.
Originally Posted by sosonic
Maybe for the "RX-9" in 2010, they will make a 3 rotor...
09-07-2006, 09:33 AM
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No.
I don't know what the gas mileage on a 3 rotor would be, but most likely, I wouldn't be happy with my monthly budget for gas.
Furthermore, I see the RX-8 as a street car, not a race car. It's fast enough for me for the U.S. roads. The current RX-8 has a great balance between civility and performance. I do not wish to upset that balance. I already feel hamstringed on the roads anyway with the enforcement going on. I feel that having more power is pretty useless unless you regularly take to the track. Plus if you get on that power thing, there's no end. There will always be another car out there faster than yours.
I don't know what the gas mileage on a 3 rotor would be, but most likely, I wouldn't be happy with my monthly budget for gas.
Furthermore, I see the RX-8 as a street car, not a race car. It's fast enough for me for the U.S. roads. The current RX-8 has a great balance between civility and performance. I do not wish to upset that balance. I already feel hamstringed on the roads anyway with the enforcement going on. I feel that having more power is pretty useless unless you regularly take to the track. Plus if you get on that power thing, there's no end. There will always be another car out there faster than yours.
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09-07-2006, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveCM203
I have a book that was given to me by my boss. He got it when he was a GM at a Mazda dealer. It is very cool and shows the process behind the development of the 8 along with some history of the rotary engine. In the book they stated that three rotor was looked at for the car. The reason they did not use it was an issue with heat. Suposedly with a middle rotor it would be very hard to control the heat. I know they have used this engine in race cars. Does anyone think that reason is bull s**t or is there something there? Maybe something as simple as reliability issues?
09-07-2006, 07:20 PM
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No.
I don't know what the gas mileage on a 3 rotor would be, but most likely, I wouldn't be happy with my monthly budget for gas.
Furthermore, I see the RX-8 as a street car, not a race car. It's fast enough for me for the U.S. roads. The current RX-8 has a great balance between civility and performance. I do not wish to upset that balance. I already feel hamstringed on the roads anyway with the enforcement going on. I feel that having more power is pretty useless unless you regularly take to the track. Plus if you get on that power thing, there's no end. There will always be another car out there faster than yours.
I don't know what the gas mileage on a 3 rotor would be, but most likely, I wouldn't be happy with my monthly budget for gas.
Furthermore, I see the RX-8 as a street car, not a race car. It's fast enough for me for the U.S. roads. The current RX-8 has a great balance between civility and performance. I do not wish to upset that balance. I already feel hamstringed on the roads anyway with the enforcement going on. I feel that having more power is pretty useless unless you regularly take to the track. Plus if you get on that power thing, there's no end. There will always be another car out there faster than yours.
Yes but you are missing the "race car" argument. To qualify for severl classes of racing the race teams have to use motors that are currently in production. Thus they need mazda to put a 3 rotor in a current production car. The other teams are also just flat out running out of parts for the old 3rotors as they are not made and literally have to dig through salvage yards to get motors and parts. This could be a big influence for mazda. And if you think mazda isnt concerned with the racing teams, think again.
Plus with the market going the way it is and everything going bigger and more power a n/a 3 rotor is a logical step to making more power without adding the complexity and the maintinance costs of F/I to a showroom car.