would you buy a 3 rotor renesis rx-8 for $30,000 to $32,000
09-01-2006, 05:16 PM
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Hell, why not make it 400hp and 2700lbs with 40mpg and the ability to cure cancer and stop world hunger for 22,000.
09-01-2006, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ike
Hell, why not make it 400hp and 2700lbs with 40mpg and the ability to cure cancer and stop world hunger for 22,000.
You're asking people if they would spend essentially the same amount of money for the same car w/ more power and better gas mileage. Uh, no duh the answer would be yes.
09-01-2006, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by spork
Hah, that's what I thought when I read the question.
You're asking people if they would spend essentially the same amount of money for the same car w/ more power and better gas mileage. Uh, no duh the answer would be yes.
You're asking people if they would spend essentially the same amount of money for the same car w/ more power and better gas mileage. Uh, no duh the answer would be yes.
give or take a couple of $1000.
09-01-2006, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by saturn
That's ridiculous. You know that only Chuck Norris's tears can cure cancer.
Anyway, getting back on topic, I think what the OP meant is that the ~$32k 3-rotor RX-8 would be similarly equipped to the $27k base model RX-8, only with, well, another rotor (and maybe a number improved parts to decrease the weight a little as well).
Also, I'm guessing the idea of higher MPG comes from the fact that a larger engine would have more torque and be and be geared lower, so the RPMs would be much lower while cruising.
Is that about right?
09-01-2006, 08:42 PM
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I have a book that was given to me by my boss. He got it when he was a GM at a Mazda dealer. It is very cool and shows the process behind the development of the 8 along with some history of the rotary engine. In the book they stated that three rotor was looked at for the car. The reason they did not use it was an issue with heat. Suposedly with a middle rotor it would be very hard to control the heat. I know they have used this engine in race cars. Does anyone think that reason is bull s**t or is there something there? Maybe something as simple as reliability issues?
09-02-2006, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by spork
Hah, that's what I thought when I read the question.
You're asking people if they would spend essentially the same amount of money for the same car w/ more power and better gas mileage. Uh, no duh the answer would be yes.
You're asking people if they would spend essentially the same amount of money for the same car w/ more power and better gas mileage. Uh, no duh the answer would be yes.
09-02-2006, 04:27 PM
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I just bought a 7 rotor RX-8 yesterday. 9,000hp and it weighs 30 pounds. Fits in my pocket untill I hit a button and then it opens up like a transformer. It goes faster than the Earth does and if you so much as press the gas, you go back in time.
09-02-2006, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ike
Hell, why not make it 400hp and 2700lbs with 40mpg and the ability to cure cancer and stop world hunger for 22,000.
09-03-2006, 03:06 AM
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If mazda builts a 3 rotor renesis rx-8 with at least 300 real hp and get decent gas milage for $30,000 to $32,000 would you buy it?
09-03-2006, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by m477
Yeah. Too bad Chuck Norris has never cried.
Anyway, getting back on topic, I think what the OP meant is that the ~$32k 3-rotor RX-8 would be similarly equipped to the $27k base model RX-8, only with, well, another rotor (and maybe a number improved parts to decrease the weight a little as well).
Also, I'm guessing the idea of higher MPG comes from the fact that a larger engine would have more torque and be and be geared lower, so the RPMs would be much lower while cruising.
Is that about right?
Anyway, getting back on topic, I think what the OP meant is that the ~$32k 3-rotor RX-8 would be similarly equipped to the $27k base model RX-8, only with, well, another rotor (and maybe a number improved parts to decrease the weight a little as well).
Also, I'm guessing the idea of higher MPG comes from the fact that a larger engine would have more torque and be and be geared lower, so the RPMs would be much lower while cruising.
Is that about right?
09-03-2006, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveCM203
I have a book that was given to me by my boss. He got it when he was a GM at a Mazda dealer. It is very cool and shows the process behind the development of the 8 along with some history of the rotary engine. In the book they stated that three rotor was looked at for the car. The reason they did not use it was an issue with heat. Suposedly with a middle rotor it would be very hard to control the heat. I know they have used this engine in race cars. Does anyone think that reason is bull s**t or is there something there? Maybe something as simple as reliability issues?
09-03-2006, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by New Yorker
Yeah, 0-60 in 5.9 sec isn't fast enough for me.
09-03-2006, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ike
For some people it isn't. In todays car market it's not anything out of the ordinary.
PS: Model T got about 10 mpg better economy than the RX-8
09-03-2006, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rotary crazy
If mazda builts a 3 rotor renesis rx-8 with at least 300 real hp and get decent gas milage for $30,000 to $32,000 would you buy it?
09-03-2006, 02:39 PM
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He's talking about base model. So add another 4k or so for your extras.
Considering the current car takes about 5-8k to get it up to 300 whp, it's a no brainer that many of us would.
Considering the current car takes about 5-8k to get it up to 300 whp, it's a no brainer that many of us would.
09-04-2006, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
a new design, maybe.
but if you're talking about using 20b, forget it.
Why ? emission
but if you're talking about using 20b, forget it.
Why ? emission
a 3 rotor renesis has to be a new desing, it is not only possible but it is more simple than many people think, the hardest part is tuning the intake and exhaust
but I do think mazda is going FI with the rx-8
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09-04-2006, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rotary crazy
well I ask because you did say 3 rotor ren......
a 3 rotor renesis has to be a new desing, it is not only possible but it is more simple than many people think, the hardest part is tuning the intake and exhaust
but I do think mazda is going FI with the rx-8
a 3 rotor renesis has to be a new desing, it is not only possible but it is more simple than many people think, the hardest part is tuning the intake and exhaust
but I do think mazda is going FI with the rx-8
yea, they are going F/I with everything else.
09-04-2006, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rotary crazy
WHY?
Renesis anymore. Namely because of the intake and exaust ports the center rotor would starve.