Steiner

So as I pull into the parking lot at work this morning to catch up on some of Friday's unfinished business I see a brand new 2005 Mustang...the kind with a V6.

To make matters worse, the girl driving it traded in her beloved '88 Corvette. As I struggled to look sincere while complimenting her on the new purchase, she says to me "As soon as I saw that commercial of the Mustang in the corn fields during the Super Bowl I decided to get one..."

I didn't have the heart to tell her the Mustang in that commercial was the real V8 version. Anyways...I will probably never understand the type of person who could spend $20k-$30k on a watered down, base model version of an American icon. Maybe if it's a rental car for your vacation in Hawaii but other than that...

It's the ultimate in poseur-ish-ness to me. The looks of a Mustang - which mean the added incovenience of 2 doors, extra insurance and zero rear passenger room - but none of the power which makes all of those things suddenly seem so insignificant when you romp on the fun pedal. I may never understand.

dmp

whats with that HUGE pic in your sig?

The car in that pic has worse interior than 'any' mustang..maybe she enjoys comfort and style over speed?

Steiner

I wasn't comparing it to my car. Why are you? Sorry about the big sig...better now?

dmp

I'm saying:

For somebody to bitch about another's choice of car, they need to be ready to have 'their' choice bitched at. Perhaps she was trying as hard as she could not to laugh at that ridiculous wing on the back, or $10k-price-car interior the Evo has. I'm saying, she may be asking on her V6 Mustang board: "Why would ANYONE pay $30 for (insert car)".

V6? Whatever...it's no big deal. Unless it's MY money

:D

Steiner

I don't have a "ridiculous wing" wing on the back. My Evo is wingless. But we're getting off topic. If Mitsubishi offered a N/A four cylinder Evo without any of the performance and all of the looks...and I bought it...then your comments would be relevant. However no such model exists.

Thing is that all of that "comfort and style" in a V6 Mustang (as you put it) also exists in the GT trim.

BlueEyes

I have found most people are poseurs who buy sports cars. All sports cars, from ferrari's to mustangs. Most are mediocre drivers at their shinningest moments and wiill never see 7/10ths of their cars performance. It really doesn't matter though, if they're happy then who cares. If they know they will never use the V8's power, and just like the style, why pay for the V8?

army_rx8

mitsubishi does...it's called a lancer raliart. lol

DreRX8

Actually the new V6 Mustang is no longer as much of a pathetic piece of metal as it once was--it has enough torque to get it to 60 in high 6s to low 7s compared to the old ones high 8 seconds. I just don't like the look of them without the lights in the grill. But the same people are probably saying why would we waste our money on RX8s when cheaper (insert car here) is faster. So its all relative. Me personally--if I get a pony car it would have to be V8.

dmp

Translation: "Hi! I can't take criticism!"

Ike

The funny thing is most of these people think they have fast cars with their V6. Fact of the matter is many of these people are poseurs (I see rebadged american muscle cars far more than any other cars), conversely some just don't need the power yet like the looks of the car. The V6 Mustang will outsell the GT by ridiculous amounts like it has in years past, and I don't get it either in many cases. There are cars where the higher powered version sells better than the cheaper lower powered version, but I don't think any of them are American.

Dre is right though, the new Mustangs V6 is a big improvement over what they used to be.

TopGear

It's actually a fairly straightforward answer - for $5,600 less than the GT you get a car that looks 99.5% the same and is fast enough. It's only gearheads like us that want to spend extra money for performance.

The 6 cylinder Mustang looks good, has quite acceptable performance of 0-60 in 7.0 seconds, compared to around 6 seconds for the V8. I took a good look at the 2005 Mustang before purchasing an Rx-8 and I can easily see it's appeal as a good looking muscle car. If they would only improve their steering, suspension, interior materials and build quality....but then it wouldn't be a muscle car.

Here is Motorweek's review:

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2405.shtml

Two-thirds of Mustangs sold have the V6 - meaning that the majority of purchasers say that they don't need to spend $5,600 more to shave 1 second of their 0-60 time. You don't have to go back too many years to find 7.0 0-60 times being called "high performance"

Ike

It's actually more like 2 seconds 0-60 and that 2 seconds turns into several seconds once you go up to 100. I also don't see buying a mustang for its looks, but hey, a lot of people think WRXs are ugly so to each their own.

TopGear

Hi Ike -

I agree with what you are saying - I wouldn't get the V6 myself but most people drive an automatic, don't take their cars over 80, don't like twisty roads and don't take off from lights to see how fast they get to 60. I think that group of people represents the vast majority of drivers. They have every right to be passionate about their cars and enjoy them as we do. They can't understand why we spend $ for performance and we can't understand why they don't.

Here's an article saying that Ford will be producing 192,000 Mustangs this year - if two thirds are V6's that is 128,00 cars. That's a lot more V6 Mustang's sold than Rx-8's.

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosins...C02-121200.htm

Steiner

Even if the '05 V6 Mustang is a better buy than the '04 V6 Mustang it still represents something sorta...I dunno...unwholesome IMHO. It's like fat free ice cream or low fat spam. If you're trying to lose weight those type of things need to be simply cut of the diet, not watered down. To me a V6 Mustang is sorta like diet Funyons...looks like the real thing, feels like the real thing, even smells like the real thing...but when you take a bite you discover sure as **** it ain't the real thing.

https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/car-stock-rice-king-56756/

How many pages of criticism to have endure? That thread I linked above is 15+ pages. Seriously though...try to stay on topic of simply STFU. Was their something misleading or confusing about the title of this thread? Did I unknowingly crush or abuse your e-ego in another thread? If so I apologize, but this thread has nothing to do with my car or yours so shoot me a PM if you wanna pound your chest and critique me or my car. I'll make sure you have my undivided attention, because apparently that's all you're after.

Ike

They make diet Funyons?!?! Blasphemy!

Thetitanium8

How can someone who owns an EVO not know its a lancer? Ok this thread needs to be closed this guy doesn't know what he is talking about.

P.S. EVO = Lancer Evolution

scottmhr1

Geez, that 5000 is a lot for many people, especially younger ones. You have to be ignorant to question why anyone would buy the car they did just because it doesnt have the higher power options.

Steiner

No **** fucko.

Read closer though. We're talking exact same car minus the performance. Only difference between the Mustang GT and V6 models is performance...not the body of the car. You and dmp go visit the penalty box until you can keep up with the group. There's a helluva lot more than that seperating a Lancer ES and a Lancer Evo, an Impreza RS and an Impreza Sti, or a 325i and an M3 than just an engine and transmission.

Thetitanium8

Your still missing his POINT. You are demostrating exactly what he is trying to explain to you. The point is who care what other people like/dislike its their money their car not yours. You have no idea what there money situation is. not everyone is fortunate enough to own a 30k sports car. Thats like making fun of a single mother with 4 kids that all have holes in their jeans. who cares its not you and if it matters so much give them money. If someone said to you haha your car is still a lancer you would be mad and you are already proving that. Now you have every right to be mad because its what you like and who are they to put down your taste. So the point is and will always be "To each their own"

You been great good night I am out.

Steiner

Than save the $5k, buy a Honda Accord and get 4 doors, extra storage and cheaper insurance. You'd have to be ignorant for the same thing not to have crossed your mind.

Thetitanium8

Wow great language glad you can express yourself that way. Your still missing the point. You are the one not reading everyone here knows what you are saying. You chose not to listen to us.

Steiner

Uh no...you don't get off that easy. Brush your teeth and come back and play son. I'm not done with you.

It has absolutely nothing to do with money. I'm not criticizing the purchase of a V6 Mustang from that angle at all. If anything I'm saying the opposite - if you'll reread what's already been posted. Your dollar doesn't go very far when you buy a car like that. Insurance for a 2 door is high and interior room is very poor. In the end a lot of people buy that car just to say "I own an Mustang"...whether or not they get the real one or the PG version.

How many of you would buy an RX-8 if Mazda came out with a 140hp inline 4 banger version called an "LX" or "ES". How about if Pontiac came out with a V6 version of the GTO called the "Le Mans" or something like that?

Ike

I make fun of poor people all the time, it's just what I do :D

Steiner

Sorry Ike...couldn't resist...:D

Yo mamma so poor when the floor fell through she said "There goes are dinner table".

Yo momma so poor she takes showers in the rain.

Yo momma so poor I went to the park and stepped on a lit cigarette and she said "Who turned off the heat".

Your mama's so poor, I was in her house and I blew out a candle, she said "Why did you turn off the heater"?

Thetitanium8

its called rx8 AT they have less horses and people buy them... I would never think about saying someone just bought it cause it was an rx8. If thats they way you think then I dont know what to tell you. So if someone buys a lower end sony tv they are buying so they can say they have a sony.. Give me a break .. you seem to think that everyone cares to keep up with the jones. Thats not the case sorry you feel that way.