Notices
General Automotive Discuss all things automotive here other than the RX-8

We didn't start the fire ... but just try to put it out!

Old Feb 26, 2008 | 01:19 PM
  #1  
No More Oldsmobiles's Avatar
Thread Starter
Custom User Title:
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 702
Likes: 1
From: Mondaflore, Ikinburlistan
We didn't start the fire ... but just try to put it out!

Seems that ethanol fuel has dangers that a lot of fire departments aren't ready to handle.

Ethanol Fuels Fire Concerns
By CHRIS BLANK –

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) — The nation's drive toward alternative fuels carries a danger many communities have been to slow to recognize: Ethanol fires are harder to put out than gasoline ones and require a special type of firefighting foam.

Many fire departments around the country don't have the foam, don't have enough of it, or are not well-trained in how to apply it, firefighting experts say. It is also more expensive than conventional foam.

"It is not unusual to find a fire department that is still just prepared to deal with traditional flammable liquids," said Ed Plaugher, director of national programs for the International Association of Fire Chiefs.

The problem is that water doesn't put out ethanol fires, and the foam that has been used since the 1960s to smother ordinary gasoline blazes doesn't work well against the grain-alcohol fuel.

Wrecks involving ordinary cars and trucks are not the major concern. They carry modest amounts of fuel, and it is typically a low-concentration, 10 percent blend of ethanol and gasoline. A large amount of conventional foam can usually extinguish such fires.

Instead, the real danger involves the many tanker trucks and railcars that are rolling out of the Corn Belt with huge quantities of 85 or 95 percent ethanol and carrying it to parts of the country unaccustomed to dealing with it.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:53 PM
  #2  
77mjd's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 1
From: Sheboygan Falls, Wisconsin
That ethanol fuel is pretty much worthless anyway. All it has been good for is sending my grocery bill through the roof.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2008 | 12:42 PM
  #3  
No More Oldsmobiles's Avatar
Thread Starter
Custom User Title:
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 702
Likes: 1
From: Mondaflore, Ikinburlistan
It's actually causing a crisis in Mexico because it has driven the price of corn up, making foods such as tortillas more expensive.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2008 | 02:09 PM
  #4  
toxin440's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 994
Likes: 0
From: Texas
just another example of how the leaders that choose crappy alternative fuels really don't think things through.

Not so much the fire thing - but just the fact that ethanol is NOT going to be the savior people hoped it would be. It was a rushed psudo solution to a much bigger problem.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Audio Concepts ATL
New Member Forum
21
Sep 26, 2021 01:59 PM
SUKIEE
New Member Forum
19
Oct 9, 2017 09:41 PM
Redheddude222
New Member Forum
13
Aug 24, 2015 09:14 AM
D13
Series I Exterior Appearance and Body Kits
4
Aug 22, 2015 11:42 PM


Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:31 AM.