WAKE UP CALL MAZDA! '08 350Z/Supra 350HP/30K!!!
10-20-2006, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DailyDriver2k5
Ahhh....Rotary God , you got it wrong.... Twin turbo Z's ran low 14's to high 13's.... N/A Z' with 222Hp ran 15-15.6 flat. I am Z fanatic and previous owner of a TTZ. If a TTZ got that time of 15 flat, the driver sure does suck at driving it.
Lowest time for a stock TTZ is 13.7..... Consistent times anywhere from 13.9-14.4.Anything higher than that is a bad driver or a poor mechanically TTZ.
Lowest time for a stock TTZ is 13.7..... Consistent times anywhere from 13.9-14.4.Anything higher than that is a bad driver or a poor mechanically TTZ.
1989 Nissan 300ZX 7.1 15.5
1990 Nissan 300ZX 7.1 15.5
1990 Nissan 300ZX Turbo 6.5 15.0
1990 Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo 5.6 14.1
1991 Nissan 300ZX 2+2 7.5 15.9
1991 Nissan 300ZX Turbo (auto) 7.0 15.4
1992 Nissan 300ZX Turbo 5.7 14.2
1993 Nissan 300ZX Turbo 5.2 13.8
1994 Nissan 300ZX Turbo 6.0 14.4
1995 Nissan 300ZX Turbo 5.5 13.9
edit: why go through all the mess with turbo's and everything when you can get better aftermarket performance (not saying a Renesis will never reach the performance of a 13b-rew but not anytime soon) with a 13b-rew (or 13b-re) swap?
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10-20-2006, 12:52 PM
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im keeping mine reguardless...if i can figure out some way to drop 200lbs off the car and retain stock interior (my girl will kill me if she saw it gutted), maybe race seats, and make 260-300 whp..i would be a very happy camper
10-20-2006, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rglbegl
Well . . According to our factory rep the Supra ( which is not allowed to be called a Supra - Once Toyota retires a car, they never use that name again. So if they did, it would be a first ) Will be competing against the new Nissan GT-R, Which is supposed to be closer to the $75k mark. So if you think the new Toyota sports car is only going to run in the $30k range . . you are dreaming. Did you forget how much they were asking for the last supra??? Just like that other thread talking about overbidding the MSRP . . that is what Toyota will be going for. We already have an interest list at my store, and we have a bid (unconfirmed) of $100k over the MSRP to have the FIRST one in Socal.
10-20-2006, 12:54 PM
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toyota and nissan are trying to compensate for their small *****..... haha, im just kidding, or am i? anyways... dont forget about the nissan gtr!! ive just heard that the mazdaspeed 3 beat a wrx on a track run, beat it by about 10 seconds i heard, im not sure if this is correct but thats impressive if it is..
anyways, i doubt a triple rotor would ever come out in the states due to emissions... a mazdaspeed rx8 i doubt will be turbo, due to the last two versions, just pcm upgrades and suspension upgrades.
anyways, i doubt a triple rotor would ever come out in the states due to emissions... a mazdaspeed rx8 i doubt will be turbo, due to the last two versions, just pcm upgrades and suspension upgrades.
10-20-2006, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanganrx8
See i've read and heard the exact opposite, the new "supra" will not compete agaisnt the gtr, it will be in the $30K range because it will be put up agaisnt the 350z, so it won't be what the MK4 was back in 94-98. The car toyota is putting out that will compete with the gtr is actually going to be a lexus, more of a luxury exotic, kinda' like what the new gtr is, not the racebred car that it once was.
10-20-2006, 12:56 PM
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this is what i've read in modifieg mag. superstreet, and sport compact are all saying around the same thing. but hey i could be wrong it's still awhile before any of these cars come out. Hopefully these cars wont be like the last 2 gen eclipses, or the new evo 10 coming out, and still be made in japan and not here.
10-20-2006, 12:56 PM
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RX8 and a Truk....
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Well you gotta think of the crappy tires back then and now
True - this guy had aftermarket rubber
AND he was good - he's on this board from time-to-time...user name FastMike
10-20-2006, 12:57 PM
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Also here is the fastest time that was recorded for the TTZ , go here...
http://www.300zx.cl/usa300zx/turbotea4.jpg
http://www.300zx.cl/usa300zx/turbotea4.jpg
10-20-2006, 12:57 PM
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Thats what the new R&T says too. it has changed what it says about the new supra in the november issue. Its say that the Supra will be 30k and have about 350hp and aimed at the Z which will have over 300hp aswell. The LF-A will be the one smoking the skyline and it will be badged a lexus.
10-20-2006, 12:59 PM
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Well, with the Rx8 I don't think Mazda is trying to sell a 'fast' sports car. It's trying to sell a rotary sports car. That's who's going to buy these cars. I don't think Mazda cares if you don't buy it, they just care if someone who appreciates rotaries buys it.
I would like to see more power, but if there is, by mazda, I don't think it will be a rotary.
And that's what I really want, so....I guess I'm 7 or 8 only. lol
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I would like to see more power, but if there is, by mazda, I don't think it will be a rotary.
And that's what I really want, so....I guess I'm 7 or 8 only. lol
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10-20-2006, 01:08 PM
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...45&q=rx8&hl=en
13.1 sec rx8..turbo.. rear and pass seats taken out :-\ ...still.. quick.
13.1 sec rx8..turbo.. rear and pass seats taken out :-\ ...still.. quick.
10-20-2006, 01:10 PM
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sorry but sounds like more rumor to me, mags have been talking about a new supra for years, i dont see why this time it would be true. First of all, think about how long it takes for a car to go from being announced, to various versions of concepts, to test mule, to final concept, to production. the original official GT-R concept came out god knows how many years ago, same goes for the LF-A. various versions of the Mules have been spotted at Nurburgring for more than 2 years now, after all that and all these versions of concepts both cars are still 2 years away from production coming out in 2009.
If theres a supra coming out in 2009 or even 2010, there would have been official concepts and prototypes popping out a long time ago. We dont have anything from Toyota, sounds to me like more rumors and speculations.
If theres a supra coming out in 2009 or even 2010, there would have been official concepts and prototypes popping out a long time ago. We dont have anything from Toyota, sounds to me like more rumors and speculations.
10-20-2006, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mike1324a
Thats what the new R&T says too. it has changed what it says about the new supra in the november issue. Its say that the Supra will be 30k and have about 350hp and aimed at the Z which will have over 300hp aswell. The LF-A will be the one smoking the skyline and it will be badged a lexus.
Yup, you won't find the info online, its in the magazine.... 30k bucks for a Supra with 350Hp,and goes 0-60in 4.2 sec...3200lbs....Thats going to be a nice sports car to have. What amazes me is that this Supra, if it holds true, will be putting out numbers of an 02/03 E55 AMG with 469HP/516 trq and a 03 Z-06 with 405 HP. Toyota must have some amazing gearing to pull that feat off....
10-20-2006, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by playdoh43
sorry but sounds like more rumor to me, mags have been talking about a new supra for years, i dont see why this time it would be true. First of all, think about how long it takes for a car to go from being announced, to various versions of concepts, to test mule, to final concept, to production. the original official GT-R concept came out god knows how many years ago, same goes for the LF-A. various versions of the Mules have been spotted at Nurburgring for more than 2 years now, after all that and all these versions of concepts both cars are still 2 years away from production coming out in 2009.
If theres a supra coming out in 2009 or even 2010, there would have been official concepts and prototypes popping out a long time ago. We dont have anything from Toyota, sounds to me like more rumors and speculations.
If theres a supra coming out in 2009 or even 2010, there would have been official concepts and prototypes popping out a long time ago. We dont have anything from Toyota, sounds to me like more rumors and speculations.
So i guess the refresh Z for 07/08 with its new VQHR motor(315-350HP) is a rumor too.....
10-20-2006, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DailyDriver2k5
So i guess the refresh Z for 07/08 with its new VQHR motor(315-350HP) is a rumor too.....
10-20-2006, 01:44 PM
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Since Mazda seems to be against turbocharging the Renesis in production.....the better option would be to lose the rear doors and drop some lbs. High hp #'s are only needed to offset the increasing waistlines of sports cars these days. If the RX8 could drop to the 2500lb range......that would be like having 300hp.
I still think Mazda's best chance at really competing with the 350Z and a Supra-like Toyota product would be to turbo charge that new Duratech 35 they'll be using the 2008 Mazda 6. Because of the joint use between Ford and Mazda on this engine the unit cost is going to be really low.
I still think Mazda's best chance at really competing with the 350Z and a Supra-like Toyota product would be to turbo charge that new Duratech 35 they'll be using the 2008 Mazda 6. Because of the joint use between Ford and Mazda on this engine the unit cost is going to be really low.
10-20-2006, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DailyDriver2k5
.... 30k bucks for a Supra with 350Hp,and goes 0-60in 4.2 sec...3200lbs....
10-20-2006, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bascho
Since Mazda seems to be against turbocharging the Renesis in production.....the better option would be to lose the rear doors and drop some lbs. High hp #'s are only needed to offset the increasing waistlines of sports cars these days. If the RX8 could drop to the 2500lb range......that would be like having 300hp.
I still think Mazda's best chance at really competing with the 350Z and a Supra-like Toyota product would be to turbo charge that new Duratech 35 they'll be using the 2008 Mazda 6. Because of the joint use between Ford and Mazda on this engine the unit cost is going to be really low.
I still think Mazda's best chance at really competing with the 350Z and a Supra-like Toyota product would be to turbo charge that new Duratech 35 they'll be using the 2008 Mazda 6. Because of the joint use between Ford and Mazda on this engine the unit cost is going to be really low.
That could work....but correct me if i am wrong, wasn't mazda suppose to come out with a reflash of the ecu to give us the "acclaimed" 250Hp?
10-20-2006, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NgoRX8
i don't believe it either... for 30k....
Ok...so what if it does come out.....lets say 35k... 350HP,3200lbs, pulls that 4.2 sec.... would you buy one?
10-20-2006, 02:18 PM
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I don't believe a 350bhp, 3200lbs, RWD car will hit 60mph in 4.2 seconds. The numbers don't match, imo.
A C6 Vette, weighs about 3200lbs, and has 400bhp and just barely can get to those numbers, and costs ~$45,000
A C6 Vette, weighs about 3200lbs, and has 400bhp and just barely can get to those numbers, and costs ~$45,000
