video: direct comparison of RX-8 against BMW 135i turbo coupe
02-13-2008, 04:08 PM
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Please explain to us how it is stupid to compare 2 similarly priced performance vehicles?
My only complaint about the comparison is the price difference between the 2 cars being only 2000 euro.
They would've been better off comparing base model cars, not some toy equipped RX-8. A base model RX-8 is about $9000 cheaper than a base model 135i.
My only complaint about the comparison is the price difference between the 2 cars being only 2000 euro.
They would've been better off comparing base model cars, not some toy equipped RX-8. A base model RX-8 is about $9000 cheaper than a base model 135i.
So IMAO...stupid comparison.
02-13-2008, 04:16 PM
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I think it's a good comparison and a logical one. It's as logical as comparing an RX8 to a G35 and G37 coupe. The pressure from the existence of these cars is what's going to get our car more HP. The cars are logically connected on many levels.
02-13-2008, 04:17 PM
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It's stupid because they are not similar other than they are 'sports cars'. Different power, different layout of the two. And maybe the fact that they are not similarly priced, I am American euro's don't mean anything at all to me. From what I do know (not sure) but 2000 euro's is around 4500 dollars(?) And the price difference is that between a stripped down 135 and a fully loaded 8? As stated earlier max on an 8 is aroud 32k max on the 135 is gonna be at least 45k.
So IMAO...stupid comparison.
So IMAO...stupid comparison.
02-13-2008, 04:20 PM
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02-13-2008, 04:22 PM
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yeah, the rx8 definetly handles better than the g35, and i am making this statement because ive actually DRIVEN both cars and not talking ignorant smack about a car or cars ive never driven
02-13-2008, 04:24 PM
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However, you don't own an RX8, but you drive the RX8 A LOT, right? Uh, yeah, right.
02-13-2008, 04:27 PM
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taken serveral trips driving it from md to NC, and about a dozen or 2 trips locally around town. enough to form an oppinion based on actual driving experience vs your ignorant statements that you formed on the 135 having never driven one
02-13-2008, 04:29 PM
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02-13-2008, 04:38 PM
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Actually nimbleness usually denotes the willingness to change lateral position which equates to handling. Don't mistake a stiff or high-traction car as the better handling vehicle. The Mustang GT is a stiff car but it is not considered a good handler as an S2k or RX8. Similarly I can put R-compounds on an Impreza 2.5i and it will have better grip & traction (AWD) than a miata. But would I say therefore the Impreza is the better handling car over the miata?
02-13-2008, 04:45 PM
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unfortunately for you,i dont think anyone outside of the mods can do that. all your name calling, and frustrated attempts to tell me to "STFU" and calling me "*** wipe" didnt seem to work too well, im still here posting
02-13-2008, 04:47 PM
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Gosh I am so frustrated. Because you are so smart.
02-13-2008, 04:50 PM
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Actually nimbleness usually denotes the willingness to change lateral position which equates to handling. Don't mistake a stiff or high-traction car as the better handling vehicle. The Mustang GT is a stiff car but it is not considered a good handler as an S2k or RX8. Similarly I can put R-compounds on an Impreza 2.5i and it will have better grip & traction (AWD) than a miata. But would I say therefore the Impreza is the better handling car over the miata?
traction is always a part of the equation for handling in my book. the more traction the better a car handles...
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02-13-2008, 04:54 PM
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02-13-2008, 04:59 PM
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nope ive never been banned from this forum or any other forum, but if you dont have anything further to add to your side of the debate. I don't feel the need to venture further off topic with you.
02-13-2008, 05:00 PM
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in your specific scenario id say probably yes, that impreza does handle better than a stock miata. and no, a stock impreza does not handle better than a stock miata. enough difference in traction can make the impreza the better handler.
traction is always a part of the equation for handling in my book. the more traction the better a car handles...
traction is always a part of the equation for handling in my book. the more traction the better a car handles...
So when the stock Miata beats the Impreza with R compounds in autocross, the Impreza didn't lose because of inferior handling?
02-13-2008, 05:15 PM
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But now you are saying "maybe yes maybe no, who knows? there can be tons of factors..."
So there is no way you just contradicted yourself?
02-13-2008, 05:25 PM
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in your specific scenario id say probably yes, that impreza does handle better than a stock miata. and no, a stock impreza does not handle better than a stock miata. enough difference in traction can make the impreza the better handler.
traction is always a part of the equation for handling in my book. the more traction the better a car handles...
traction is always a part of the equation for handling in my book. the more traction the better a car handles...
02-13-2008, 06:54 PM
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nope, not necessarily, because like i said theres a lot more to handling than just any 1 factor alone, be it weight or traction. I was simply saying that traction matters and can make a car that otherwise dosnt handle that well in stock form handle much better. why is tracktion any less important than nimbleness when it comes to handling?
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02-13-2008, 06:57 PM
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Earlier, in your response to delhi's post, you said "in your specific scenario id say probably yes, that impreza does handle better than a stock miata. and no, a stock impreza does not handle better than a stock miata."
But now you are saying "maybe yes maybe no, who knows? there can be tons of factors..."
So there is no way you just contradicted yourself?
But now you are saying "maybe yes maybe no, who knows? there can be tons of factors..."
So there is no way you just contradicted yourself?
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