Twin Turbo Mazda 6
07-13-2004, 10:55 AM
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Twin Turbo Mazda 6
I didn't think this had been posted yet but it's a new twin turbo mazda 6 to compete with the STI and EVO.
http://autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?p..._code=07383418
http://autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?p..._code=07383418
07-13-2004, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by greese
got to be a mistake. No way would they put a twin turbo on the four and leave the six alone. It has to be the 6 cylinder getting the twin turbo.
Not necessarily. The four is the better handling of the two models, and since it's competitors are four bangers, why not? This thing could be one wicked piece.
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07-13-2004, 02:17 PM
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Which brings up the question: Could a FI RX8 be far behind? It seems that Mazda would want to keep the RX8 as the performance leader. Just a thought. Any opinions?
07-13-2004, 02:26 PM
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Hopefully, all the magazine reports are hinting at a higher horsepower RX8 coming; especially seeing that alot of suspension tweaks have been engineered in that would signal more power. Hopefully Mazda has a better time at FI than these aftermarket tuners. My hope is starting to fade.
07-13-2004, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MP3Guy
Not necessarily. The four is the better handling of the two models, and since it's competitors are four bangers, why not? This thing could be one wicked piece.
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07-13-2004, 02:37 PM
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You guys remember this beast?
Underneath the hood is a turbocharged 2.3-liter four-cylinder engine with a direct gasoline injection system. It makes 280 horsepower at 6,500 rpm and 263 pound-feet of torque at 3,500 rpm.
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Underneath the hood is a turbocharged 2.3-liter four-cylinder engine with a direct gasoline injection system. It makes 280 horsepower at 6,500 rpm and 263 pound-feet of torque at 3,500 rpm.
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07-13-2004, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by greese
But the 6 cyl would be even better
Not necessarily- the six is not as well balanced as the four due to it's heavier front weight bias. This was pointed out in a review in Sports Car International. They prefer the four overall.
07-13-2004, 07:55 PM
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Twin-turbo has got to be a typo here, perhaps they meant "twin-scroll turbocharger".
Also, using the 4-cyl makes sense not just because of the weight, but also because the Mazdaspeed 3 and Mazdaspeed NC Miata will most likely use the same engine (albeit in detuned versions). This way, Mazda can afford to engineer and test the crap out of the engine since the cost will be amoritized across several models.
Also, using the 4-cyl makes sense not just because of the weight, but also because the Mazdaspeed 3 and Mazdaspeed NC Miata will most likely use the same engine (albeit in detuned versions). This way, Mazda can afford to engineer and test the crap out of the engine since the cost will be amoritized across several models.
07-13-2004, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by m477
Twin-turbo has got to be a typo here, perhaps they meant "twin-scroll turbocharger".
Also, using the 4-cyl makes sense not just because of the weight, but also because the Mazdaspeed 3 and Mazdaspeed NC Miata will most likely use the same engine (albeit in detuned versions). This way, Mazda can afford to engineer and test the crap out of the engine since the cost will be amoritized across several models.
Also, using the 4-cyl makes sense not just because of the weight, but also because the Mazdaspeed 3 and Mazdaspeed NC Miata will most likely use the same engine (albeit in detuned versions). This way, Mazda can afford to engineer and test the crap out of the engine since the cost will be amoritized across several models.
I bet you're right, I'd be really shocked to see another TT car in production (save for supercars). There's just no need for it with all the different turbos available you can find one to fit almost any application and type of driving experience you're after.
07-13-2004, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DonVito
6 Cylinder would be too much for Twin-Turbo for a car like the 6.
Anyways, STI and Evo have nothing on this car.
Anyways, STI and Evo have nothing on this car.
07-13-2004, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
well the MPS6 concept was one sexy beast! i understand the major thing holding them back from bringing it out sooner was the awd system
The fact they already have a awd 2.3l among other reasons would be why to use the 4 cylinder.
07-13-2004, 09:25 PM
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The 6 has offered awd in estate form overseas for quite some time. It is an already existing platform. It also happens to be mated to the 2.3l as they do not get the 3.0l. That is an American engine only.
The fact they already have a awd 2.3l among other reasons would be why to use the 4 cylinder.
The fact they already have a awd 2.3l among other reasons would be why to use the 4 cylinder.
the 2005 Mazdaspeed 6 will MSRP at $29,000.
of course, don't hold me against it if i'm off by a dollar :D
07-13-2004, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by murix
The 6 has offered awd in estate form overseas for quite some time. It is an already existing platform. It also happens to be mated to the 2.3l as they do not get the 3.0l. That is an American engine only.
The fact they already have a awd 2.3l among other reasons would be why to use the 4 cylinder.
The fact they already have a awd 2.3l among other reasons would be why to use the 4 cylinder.
yes i know that. however after the MPS6 prototype was shown in Paris (2 yrs ago?) one of the Mazda bigwigs whne asked when it would be brought out said it would be sometime before they sorted out the awd. the quote is on here somewhere i'll see if i can dig it up