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Old 08-10-2008, 02:34 AM
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Red face Turning the key while the engine is running....

So, um, let's just say someone I know accidently turned their key to try and start their car while was already idling. Let's also say that this person has done this about 2 times on a 1 year old car that is quite popular around here.

Besides making a utterly terrible sound, what exactly does this do to the car? Do I, I mean my friend, have anything to worry about?
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Nah.

The terrible sound is the starter gear grinding on the flywheel teeth - but it doesn't do squat except make some expensive filings in the bellhousing. If the starter actually managed to engage the teeth, there would likely be a broken starter, but the teeth are rounded and can take the mis-treatment.

Come on, we've all done it!

It's like arson - who hasn't burned down some famous public building? We should all just admit our faults and move on......
Maybe I've said too much.
Bad analogy.
Forget I mentioned it........

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Old 08-10-2008, 02:41 AM
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lol i knew it !!!
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No harm, no foul. Just try not to do it often.
Old 08-10-2008, 01:30 PM
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Good. I actually found a patent online that completely disables starter motor while the engine is running. I wonder if cars are going to start using this in the coming years.

As for the arson thing, I'm more of a grand theft guy.
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Terrorism here.


I mean-
Old 08-10-2008, 10:36 PM
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get a louder exhaust, you wont make that mistake again.
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Originally Posted by Danny Ocean
Good. I actually found a patent online that completely disables starter motor while the engine is running. I wonder if cars are going to start using this in the coming years.

As for the arson thing, I'm more of a grand theft guy.
Surprisingly it's already in a lot of cars these days. I know exactly what you mean. I just drove a car a couple weeks ago, forgot what it was, and it had that. The key still turns back but nothing happens if it's already running.
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Really? What kind of car was it?
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Originally Posted by Danny Ocean
Really? What kind of car was it?
Originally Posted by Ryan2008
Surprisingly it's already in a lot of cars these days. I know exactly what you mean. I just drove a car a couple weeks ago, forgot what it was, and it had that. The key still turns back but nothing happens if it's already running.


Just helpin ;P
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oh, wow, I feel sheepish....
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My 2001 Impala won't engage the starter if the engine is running. You don't even have to hold the key until the engine fires. Just a simple flick will do.

The 8, however, not so much. It surprised me to discover this, considering all the fun high-tech this car has that my Impala doesn't.
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Get a nice gurgly exhaust, and you definately wont do it
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I think the JDM Start Button also has circuit to prevent you from engaging the starter if car already started, in case any one press the button twice I guess...
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Just helpin ;P
Greatly appreciated lol Yea I forgot exactly what it was Danny Ocean, but more and more have them these days, like MikeBusch2 said about his Impala
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Originally Posted by Conundrum
I think the JDM Start Button also has circuit to prevent you from engaging the starter if car already started, in case any one press the button twice I guess...
your correct. and any start button(a hacked JDM, or a $20 ebay one) for that matter wont do anything if you took the time to wire in a relay to protect it from just that.
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Originally Posted by paulmasoner
your correct. and any start button(a hacked JDM, or a $20 ebay one) for that matter wont do anything if you took the time to wire in a relay to protect it from just that.
You wouldn't happen to have the relay wiring diagram would you?... just curious how to wire one up. thanx
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Originally Posted by Danny Ocean
So, um, let's just say someone I know accidently turned their key to try and start their car while was already idling. Let's also say that this person has done this about 2 times on a 1 year old car that is quite popular around here.

Besides making a utterly terrible sound, what exactly does this do to the car? Do I, I mean my friend, have anything to worry about?

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