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Danny Ocean 08-10-2008 02:34 AM

Turning the key while the engine is running....
 
So, um, let's just say someone I know accidently turned their key to try and start their car while was already idling. Let's also say that this person has done this about 2 times on a 1 year old car that is quite popular around here.

Besides making a utterly terrible sound, what exactly does this do to the car? Do I, I mean my friend, have anything to worry about? :eyetwitch

StealthTL 08-10-2008 02:35 AM

Nah.

The terrible sound is the starter gear grinding on the flywheel teeth - but it doesn't do squat except make some expensive filings in the bellhousing. If the starter actually managed to engage the teeth, there would likely be a broken starter, but the teeth are rounded and can take the mis-treatment.

Come on, we've all done it!

It's like arson - who hasn't burned down some famous public building? We should all just admit our faults and move on......
Maybe I've said too much.
Bad analogy.
Forget I mentioned it........

S

xsnipersgox 08-10-2008 02:41 AM

lol i knew it !!!

laythor 08-10-2008 02:42 AM

No harm, no foul. Just try not to do it often.

Danny Ocean 08-10-2008 01:30 PM

Good. I actually found a patent online that completely disables starter motor while the engine is running. I wonder if cars are going to start using this in the coming years.

As for the arson thing, I'm more of a grand theft guy.

TheWillofDeath 08-10-2008 08:18 PM

Terrorism here.


I mean-

CyberPitz 08-10-2008 10:36 PM

Child Pornog-

*runs*

PBlue 08-11-2008 07:48 AM

get a louder exhaust, you wont make that mistake again.

Ryan2008 08-11-2008 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by Danny Ocean (Post 2590546)
Good. I actually found a patent online that completely disables starter motor while the engine is running. I wonder if cars are going to start using this in the coming years.

As for the arson thing, I'm more of a grand theft guy.

Surprisingly it's already in a lot of cars these days. I know exactly what you mean. I just drove a car a couple weeks ago, forgot what it was, and it had that. The key still turns back but nothing happens if it's already running.

Danny Ocean 08-11-2008 11:19 AM

Really? What kind of car was it?

CyberPitz 08-11-2008 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Danny Ocean (Post 2591678)
Really? What kind of car was it?


Originally Posted by Ryan2008 (Post 2591491)
Surprisingly it's already in a lot of cars these days. I know exactly what you mean. I just drove a car a couple weeks ago, forgot what it was, and it had that. The key still turns back but nothing happens if it's already running.



Just helpin ;P

Danny Ocean 08-11-2008 02:15 PM

oh, wow, I feel sheepish.... :pat:

MikeBusch2 08-11-2008 05:16 PM

My 2001 Impala won't engage the starter if the engine is running. You don't even have to hold the key until the engine fires. Just a simple flick will do.

The 8, however, not so much. It surprised me to discover this, considering all the fun high-tech this car has that my Impala doesn't.

Bindon 08-11-2008 11:22 PM

Get a nice gurgly exhaust, and you definately wont do it :)

Conundrum 08-12-2008 08:06 PM

I think the JDM Start Button also has circuit to prevent you from engaging the starter if car already started, in case any one press the button twice I guess...

Ryan2008 08-12-2008 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by CyberPitz (Post 2591730)
Just helpin ;P

Greatly appreciated :) lol Yea I forgot exactly what it was Danny Ocean, but more and more have them these days, like MikeBusch2 said about his Impala

paulmasoner 08-12-2008 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Conundrum (Post 2593806)
I think the JDM Start Button also has circuit to prevent you from engaging the starter if car already started, in case any one press the button twice I guess...

your correct. and any start button(a hacked JDM, or a $20 ebay one) for that matter wont do anything if you took the time to wire in a relay to protect it from just that.

Conundrum 08-12-2008 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by paulmasoner (Post 2593831)
your correct. and any start button(a hacked JDM, or a $20 ebay one) for that matter wont do anything if you took the time to wire in a relay to protect it from just that.

You wouldn't happen to have the relay wiring diagram would you?... just curious how to wire one up. thanx

Shinka_MJR 08-12-2008 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by Danny Ocean (Post 2590246)
So, um, let's just say someone I know accidently turned their key to try and start their car while was already idling. Let's also say that this person has done this about 2 times on a 1 year old car that is quite popular around here.

Besides making a utterly terrible sound, what exactly does this do to the car? Do I, I mean my friend, have anything to worry about? :eyetwitch


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