Thats what I've been thinking but .................................................. ..............

Girls want Cute cars !!

NO Camry !

 

heh. When I see Yaris, I do not see cute. I see death trap.

I say force her to pick between cute and mpg. The 2009 Honda Accord Diesel will be out shortly. 60 mpg goodness.

 

Suzuki is not going anywhere in the car business. They actually sell more cars in Japan than Toyota does. As far as reliable, the Japanese ones are. Suzuki also sells more cars world wide than Mazda does. The SX4 is based off the Swift which is hugely popular in Asia and Europe and has won a lot of awards. They have also been the fastest growing car company for years.

I sell just Toyota's now. They are good cars. There cars have been falling in quality and longevity. The 2009 Matrix and Corolla feel, sound, and drive cheap. They do have great resale though. If you are only planning on keeping the car for about 3 years or so, the Yaris is the way to go.

I just get a little irritated when people bash Suzuki and they are good cars. They are usually bashed by people who have never owned one and have no experience with them. (But, there were problems with the Reno and Forenzas that are Korean built and in conjunction with GM.) Toyota's are not all that. They all handle like ****. They are so boring. The quality on the cars have been going down hill. Especially on the 2009's and the v-6's and v-8's are not up to par with the 4 cyl.

 

No doubt those Honda dealers are marking up those things. Do you like the Versa? The Yaris is fine. I wish they'd bring the 5DR hatch over. Our 4DR sedan is ugly and awkward. I saw the 5DRs in Canada.

 

Suzuki sells very well in other markets.

they do make impressive cars, look at the WRC Swift, Turbo the inline 4 and u get a 320ps. too bad u cant buy that lol

I think the reason why Toyota's quality gone down ately, because they've been focusing too much on their Lexus brand.

Now they feel the threat from other companies, and start focusing on its own brand again. 2009 looks pretty promising, but just not sure about its long term quality.

yeah I dont understand what Toyota is thinking, if they bring the 5dr hatch into the US market, they will sell like hot cakes. The Yaris 4dr looks like the lame version of the Camry.

No Versa. Its too lame.

 

Go for the Mazda P5 i love mine

 

Get a Saturn. they are reliable

 

one of my cars is Yaris 4doors with sport package. it's a good car, i am sure your gf will like it.

 

P5 ? u mean Mazda 5 ?

Meh, it looks weird to me. so no

GM

No thx

Im dealing with Dealership B, they have 2 Bayou Blue, not my 1st color of choice, so I told B that dealership A has the color and trim that I want. and asked them to swap it.

Last night I checked both dealership's online inventory, dealership A has 2 Blue hatchback in stock. B has 2 Bayou, all same car, trim, option, just different color. and it saids its *real time inventory*.

This morning, I emailed Dealership B and told them that I MUST see the car in your lot before I will come down south to sign the papers

I didnt get any replies today, but b4 I checked Dealership A's inventory again, one of the Blue hatchback is *gone*, and it has been replaced with another Bayou.

then I check the Dealership B's inventory, one of the Bayou is *gone*, but no Blue in.

So Im thinking did they really swap cars ? I will confirm it tomorrow (calling them)

I gave a few Suzuki dealers a call, only couple of MTs with my color of choice left. So they're being a dick about it. I was like, screw u guys.

 

We bought a 1989 Sidekick 4X4 new. Just replaced it last year with a RAV4. Never gave us a problem in the 17 years we owned it.

 

Yaris for all the reason you had and resale to top it off. The Suzuki will be worth nothing in a few years but someone will always come looking for a Toyota.

 

My friend's father, got a Sienna couple yrs ago, NEVER chANGED its oil for like 20-30 K miles ! well of course engine light is on and engine respond is sluggish. But hey at least it still works he sold the car shortly after I told him the car's engine is gone.

Well we're not planning to sell the car, but that is a good point.

Suzuki is trying to improve its brand across the NA market. cuz their Korean made cars really screwed them up, big time. so the resale value might get better after a few yrs. who knows SX4 is build in Japan, so I trust its quality actually. (if I get it)

 

there was one of these driving around at the dragon while we were at DGRR. that thing was fast as hell. we could barely keep up with it.

 

My will to buy a Yaris vs SX4 :

80% / 20%

Hmm. I just gave another call to suzuki dealer thats like 300 miles away, same thing, wants to rip me off.

and I gave a call to the Toyota dealer down south, he said he will speak with his manager first then call back, cuz they want to be sure that I will go and get the car, not just *bsing*.

 

i say go for the Yaris. here's proof of the Vitz we seen at DGRR.

 

Color?

 

What I ment to say is that the Suzuki didn't give any trouble in the 17 years we owned it. We bought the Rav 'cause a friend of ours drove hers for 316K miles!!! No major repairs. I would trust a REAL Suzuki, not a rebaged by GM Korean thing.

 

Blue

GM FTW ! .... NOT !

yeah well ... if their dealership are not being a dick then ...

 

Target price?

 

id definetly go used car, you can get a very nice slightly used car in that price range.

 

I sealed a deal.

New LB, blue, with power and cold weather pkg, keyless entry, ABS, F&R side airbags. the des charge is a rip off from Toyota. comes out to around 13.5K. (I do the Tax and title @ DMV myself when Im back to NYC)

So with tax and stuff its about 15K. Not bad IMO.

Cant beat a new car's smell

 

congrats on the new car

 

The next hard part would be ...

taking a 5 hours bus down south, then find the Subway station, get off then I have to walk 3 miles to the dealership, sign the papers, cry cuz the money flies away, happy cuz have a new ride, then have to drive 5 hours to get back to the city ... Gas ...

 

Did you get the S or base? I can't believe they dont make ABS or side airbags/curtain standard. Glad you got those options!

 

HEre comes another weird part.

to get ABS and/or side airbags, you HAVE TO go for base model. No S.

Not to mention S is not even available in some of the states.

but theres nothing special with S anyway, so Base is fine.