Notices
General Automotive Discuss all things automotive here other than the RX-8

Telsa

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 02-03-2008, 03:59 PM
  #1  
Mu ha.. ha...
Thread Starter
 
Razz1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Cali
Posts: 14,361
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Telsa

The Telsa is here.

Sure wish I could afford one.
Attached Thumbnails Telsa-1242008121611.jpeg  
Old 02-03-2008, 04:07 PM
  #2  
Registered RX-8 User
 
EdwardsB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: PA/MD
Posts: 718
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Nice looking, I knew they worked with lotus on the frame, but they def just cut and pasted the side mirrors from one on to it.

I also wish I could afford one, I don't mind it being electric.
Old 02-03-2008, 04:18 PM
  #3  
Registered
iTrader: (4)
 
alnielsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Buddhist Monastery, High Himalaya Mtns. of Tibet
Posts: 12,255
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by Razz1
The Telsa is here.

Sure wish I could afford one.
How about Tesla. http://www.teslamotors.com/
Old 02-03-2008, 05:21 PM
  #4  
⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠
 
mysql101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 8,625
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
they're shipping them with the crappy single gear transmission
Old 02-03-2008, 05:39 PM
  #5  
w8nkel
 
BigRed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Dallas
Posts: 2,317
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I decided to build my own EV. It is definitely not built on a lotus frame, but a 1993 VW Fox .
Old 02-04-2008, 04:25 PM
  #6  
It wasn't me!
 
hemanrulez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 439
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by mysql101
they're shipping them with the crappy single gear transmission
Why is that crappy? It'll still go faster than an RX-8 and will probably even handle better.
Old 02-04-2008, 04:28 PM
  #7  
Reginald P. Billingsly
iTrader: (5)
 
bose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Taylorsville, UT
Posts: 1,915
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Faster maybe but handle better I think your up in the night.
Old 02-04-2008, 04:34 PM
  #8  
Living In The Past
iTrader: (6)
 
Jethro Tull's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,921
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
A fast electric sports car is a nice idea on paper, but-

Does it have AC? Heat? Defrost?
Old 02-04-2008, 04:38 PM
  #9  
⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠
 
mysql101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 8,625
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by hemanrulez
Why is that crappy? It'll still go faster than an RX-8 and will probably even handle better.
It's crappy because they couldn't get the two speed functional. So they're shipping it with the crappy one speed and trying to work out the bugs later.

Maybe you should look up this stuff before accusing me of saying it's slower than the Rx-8.
Old 02-04-2008, 04:56 PM
  #10  
Administrator
iTrader: (7)
 
Jedi54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: The Dark Side
Posts: 22,394
Received 2,625 Likes on 1,875 Posts
doesn't even look that good to me.
Old 02-04-2008, 05:06 PM
  #11  
DGAF
iTrader: (1)
 
Rootski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,953
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by hemanrulez
Why is that crappy? It'll still go faster than an RX-8 and will probably even handle better.
It's definitely got the power to scoot, but I don't know about getting those heavy battery packs around a corner.
Old 02-04-2008, 05:08 PM
  #12  
w8nkel
 
BigRed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Dallas
Posts: 2,317
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
also, how the hell and why the hell would you compare a 25-35k car with a 100k car? seems pointless to me... this car wasnt made really to be the best car ever, but to prove a point that electric cars will be the future. period.
Old 02-04-2008, 08:11 PM
  #13  
mkuhnracing.com
iTrader: (3)
 
TopGear8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 6,212
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Any reviews on it yet?
Old 02-04-2008, 09:29 PM
  #14  
Mu ha.. ha...
Thread Starter
 
Razz1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Cali
Posts: 14,361
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Yes, check Road and Track.
Old 02-04-2008, 09:38 PM
  #15  
Registered
 
New Yorker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 3,319
Received 58 Likes on 51 Posts
I hope it does well. I don't expect it to be the perfect car or anything, but the fact that it even exists and is possible is pretty exciting. After all, it's the first electric car that's not slow, pokey or a glorified golf cart. I expect perfecting the idea and making it really practical/affordable will take several years. That's understandable… and ok.

Last edited by New Yorker; 02-04-2008 at 09:42 PM.
Old 02-04-2008, 09:56 PM
  #16  
Mu ha.. ha...
Thread Starter
 
Razz1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Cali
Posts: 14,361
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
The Tesla feels composed and competent at speed with great turn-in and transitioning response, picking up a gentle understeer when pushed through a corner a little too hard. The suspension achieves a good balance of sportiness and compliance, without jarring over average road undulations. The accelerator (not to be confused with a throttle) offers extremely precise control and power modulation, thanks to the instantaneous power and torque characteristics of an electric powertrain. Another advantage of such a setup is extremely quick-reacting traction control (which doesn't require brake intervention) because of the motor's ability to react instantly.
Old 02-04-2008, 11:11 PM
  #17  
Nope
iTrader: (9)
 
chickenwafer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Denver
Posts: 3,312
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Jethro Tull
A fast electric sports car is a nice idea on paper, but-

Does it have AC? Heat? Defrost?
Yes, it has all that, according to Automobile magazine.



I personally think it's really cool. If I was uber rich and has $100k burning a hole in my pocket, I would buy one.

It has a 13,000 rpm redline which is kind of cool, and makes 248-bhp. Full torque (over 200 ft-lbs) is also available from 0-6000 rpm. Talk about on-demand.
Old 02-05-2008, 12:29 PM
  #18  
Hit & Run Magnet
iTrader: (3)
 
kersh4w's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: DC Area
Posts: 6,690
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
the rx8 isnt even in the same class...

i dont know what you guys are talking about. tesla > rx8.
Old 02-05-2008, 04:24 PM
  #19  
Void Where Prohibited
 
JRichter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Mineola, TX
Posts: 3,046
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BigRed
I decided to build my own EV. It is definitely not built on a lotus frame, but a 1993 VW Fox .
I drove a VW Fox in the mid '90s. Loved that thing. Probably light enough for a good start.
Old 02-05-2008, 04:58 PM
  #20  
Senor Carnegrande
 
BaronVonBigmeat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 871
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It has a "crappy" (read: extremely reliable and simple) 1-speed gearbox because...it doesn't need multiple gears to begin with. Electric motors are efficient over a much, much broader RPM range than gasoline engines.
Old 02-05-2008, 05:11 PM
  #21  
ಠ_ಠ
 
Socket7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Under the Dumbarton Bridge
Posts: 2,228
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
I want a Telsa eclectic arc too!
Old 02-05-2008, 05:59 PM
  #22  
幹他媽!
 
Detrich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Gabriel Valley, CA
Posts: 2,078
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
it's a really tiny car for the $... dunno if i'd feel safe putting around in that thing around the LA SUV jungle...
Old 02-05-2008, 09:50 PM
  #23  
It wasn't me!
 
hemanrulez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 439
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by mysql101
It's crappy because they couldn't get the two speed functional. So they're shipping it with the crappy one speed and trying to work out the bugs later.

Maybe you should look up this stuff before accusing me of saying it's slower than the Rx-8.
actually you need to read up. Tesla has confirmed that the single speed will be as fast as the 2 speed they were planning on making
Old 02-05-2008, 09:56 PM
  #24  
⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠
 
mysql101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 8,625
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by hemanrulez
actually you need to read up. Tesla has confirmed that the single speed will be as fast as the 2 speed they were planning on making
You don't give up do you? They are shipping with the one speed now because of issues with the 2 speed. When they work out the issues, they'll retro fit the cars with the 2 speed. The issue is with the transmission is dealing with so much immediate torque and the huge rpm range, plus overheating. They've gone through several different units and couldn't get it working. Rather than continuing to hold up the release of the car they're moving forward with what they have. They're going with the higher gear, so the acceleration will suck. Additionally, the top speed is decreased. Even with the single speed, they don't want it faster than 125 to lower the chance of overheating.


http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/24/t...sion-troubles/

One of the major hold ups on delivering the Roadster has been transmission issues. Their initial thought is to build the first production run with temporary single-speed boxes that will not live up to the proposed performance numbers, then modify the delivered cars once a solution arrives.


hemanrulez, Let me know if you're done jacking off here. I'd appreciate it if you didn't make up random **** and then call me out based on stuff you pulled out your ***.

Last edited by mysql101; 02-05-2008 at 10:57 PM.
Old 02-05-2008, 10:12 PM
  #25  
⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠
 
mysql101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 8,625
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by BaronVonBigmeat
It has a "crappy" (read: extremely reliable and simple) 1-speed gearbox because...it doesn't need multiple gears to begin with. Electric motors are efficient over a much, much broader RPM range than gasoline engines.
gear ratios work the same way on electric motors as they do on fuel powered engines.

As communicated previously, early production units will be equipped with an interim transmission that meets durability requirements but limits acceleration to 5.7 seconds from 0 to 60 mph.
Additionally, the top speed is 125 mph, and they're getting around 80 miles before the batts get low, when driven spiritedly.

Therefor I submit to you that my RX-8 would soundly thrash the $100,000 tesla in top speed, acceleration, and even "miles per tank"


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:56 PM.