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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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The Telsa is here.

Sure wish I could afford one.
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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Nice looking, I knew they worked with lotus on the frame, but they def just cut and pasted the side mirrors from one on to it.

I also wish I could afford one, I don't mind it being electric.
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Razz1
The Telsa is here.

Sure wish I could afford one.
How about Tesla. http://www.teslamotors.com/
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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they're shipping them with the crappy single gear transmission
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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I decided to build my own EV. It is definitely not built on a lotus frame, but a 1993 VW Fox .
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mysql101
they're shipping them with the crappy single gear transmission
Why is that crappy? It'll still go faster than an RX-8 and will probably even handle better.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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Faster maybe but handle better I think your up in the night.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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A fast electric sports car is a nice idea on paper, but-

Does it have AC? Heat? Defrost?
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by hemanrulez
Why is that crappy? It'll still go faster than an RX-8 and will probably even handle better.
It's crappy because they couldn't get the two speed functional. So they're shipping it with the crappy one speed and trying to work out the bugs later.

Maybe you should look up this stuff before accusing me of saying it's slower than the Rx-8.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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doesn't even look that good to me.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hemanrulez
Why is that crappy? It'll still go faster than an RX-8 and will probably even handle better.
It's definitely got the power to scoot, but I don't know about getting those heavy battery packs around a corner.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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also, how the hell and why the hell would you compare a 25-35k car with a 100k car? seems pointless to me... this car wasnt made really to be the best car ever, but to prove a point that electric cars will be the future. period.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Any reviews on it yet?
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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Yes, check Road and Track.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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I hope it does well. I don't expect it to be the perfect car or anything, but the fact that it even exists and is possible is pretty exciting. After all, it's the first electric car that's not slow, pokey or a glorified golf cart. I expect perfecting the idea and making it really practical/affordable will take several years. That's understandable… and ok.

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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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The Tesla feels composed and competent at speed with great turn-in and transitioning response, picking up a gentle understeer when pushed through a corner a little too hard. The suspension achieves a good balance of sportiness and compliance, without jarring over average road undulations. The accelerator (not to be confused with a throttle) offers extremely precise control and power modulation, thanks to the instantaneous power and torque characteristics of an electric powertrain. Another advantage of such a setup is extremely quick-reacting traction control (which doesn't require brake intervention) because of the motor's ability to react instantly.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jethro Tull
A fast electric sports car is a nice idea on paper, but-

Does it have AC? Heat? Defrost?
Yes, it has all that, according to Automobile magazine.



I personally think it's really cool. If I was uber rich and has $100k burning a hole in my pocket, I would buy one.

It has a 13,000 rpm redline which is kind of cool, and makes 248-bhp. Full torque (over 200 ft-lbs) is also available from 0-6000 rpm. Talk about on-demand.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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the rx8 isnt even in the same class...

i dont know what you guys are talking about. tesla > rx8.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRed
I decided to build my own EV. It is definitely not built on a lotus frame, but a 1993 VW Fox .
I drove a VW Fox in the mid '90s. Loved that thing. Probably light enough for a good start.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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It has a "crappy" (read: extremely reliable and simple) 1-speed gearbox because...it doesn't need multiple gears to begin with. Electric motors are efficient over a much, much broader RPM range than gasoline engines.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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I want a Telsa eclectic arc too!
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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it's a really tiny car for the $... dunno if i'd feel safe putting around in that thing around the LA SUV jungle...
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mysql101
It's crappy because they couldn't get the two speed functional. So they're shipping it with the crappy one speed and trying to work out the bugs later.

Maybe you should look up this stuff before accusing me of saying it's slower than the Rx-8.
actually you need to read up. Tesla has confirmed that the single speed will be as fast as the 2 speed they were planning on making
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hemanrulez
actually you need to read up. Tesla has confirmed that the single speed will be as fast as the 2 speed they were planning on making
You don't give up do you? They are shipping with the one speed now because of issues with the 2 speed. When they work out the issues, they'll retro fit the cars with the 2 speed. The issue is with the transmission is dealing with so much immediate torque and the huge rpm range, plus overheating. They've gone through several different units and couldn't get it working. Rather than continuing to hold up the release of the car they're moving forward with what they have. They're going with the higher gear, so the acceleration will suck. Additionally, the top speed is decreased. Even with the single speed, they don't want it faster than 125 to lower the chance of overheating.


http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/24/t...sion-troubles/

One of the major hold ups on delivering the Roadster has been transmission issues. Their initial thought is to build the first production run with temporary single-speed boxes that will not live up to the proposed performance numbers, then modify the delivered cars once a solution arrives.


hemanrulez, Let me know if you're done jacking off here. I'd appreciate it if you didn't make up random **** and then call me out based on stuff you pulled out your ***.

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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BaronVonBigmeat
It has a "crappy" (read: extremely reliable and simple) 1-speed gearbox because...it doesn't need multiple gears to begin with. Electric motors are efficient over a much, much broader RPM range than gasoline engines.
gear ratios work the same way on electric motors as they do on fuel powered engines.

As communicated previously, early production units will be equipped with an interim transmission that meets durability requirements but limits acceleration to 5.7 seconds from 0 to 60 mph.
Additionally, the top speed is 125 mph, and they're getting around 80 miles before the batts get low, when driven spiritedly.

Therefor I submit to you that my RX-8 would soundly thrash the $100,000 tesla in top speed, acceleration, and even "miles per tank"
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